How Astrology Helps You Find Purpose Through Life's Biggest Transitions | Amrit Sandhu
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In this heartfelt conversation, Amanda sits down with podcast host, astrologer, and founder of Inspired Evolution, Amrit Sandhu, to explore the transformative power of life's initiations. From navigating depression and Saturn returns to discovering purpose, astrology, and the courage to step into the unknown, Amrit shares how some of our greatest challenges can become catalysts for profound growth. Together, they explore astrology as a source of context, resilience, and meaning – helping us understand not only what we're moving through, but who we're becoming along the way.
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🎬 IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL HEAR:
00:00 — From Corporate Burnout to Purpose: Amrit Sandhu's Awakening Journey
12:17 — Saturn Returns Explained: Alignment, Purpose & Life's Major Turning Points
21:40 — Vedic vs. Western Astrology: Can Different Systems Tell the Same Story?
43:38 — The Astrology of 2026: Initiation, Uncertainty & Humanity's Next Chapter
50:14 — Astrology as a Rite of Passage: Birth, Transformation & Becoming Who You Are
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER:
Amrit Sandhu is the founder and host of Inspired Evolution, a top global spiritual podcast with over 35 million downloads and a community of 350,000+ awakened and evolving souls.
A devoted student of Western, Vedic, and Hellenistic astrology, he's a coach trusted by the world's leading teachers and soul-led entrepreneurs, and a founding Mindvalley and Eckhart Tolle certified coach.
Having journeyed through depression into fully answering his calling, he now inspires others to evolve into their deepest spiritual alignment.
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“One of my favorite things about astrology is that it gives context to the content of your life.” – Amrit Sandhu
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Amanda: Well, hello everybody, and welcome to The Astrology Hub Podcast. Today, we have with us a very special guest—especially for me, actually. He is another host, another person who has built a very amazing platform, and many of you probably already know him. His name is Amrit Sandhu, and he is the founder and host of Inspired Evolution, a top global spiritual podcast with over 35 million downloads, and a community of over 350,000 awakened and evolving souls. He's a devoted student of astrology across Western, Vedic, and Hellenistic traditions—and we're gonna talk about that—and he's here today both as an astrologer and as a fellow podcast host.
Amrit's Background
Amanda: So I would love to start there, Amrit, because I think it's fascinating. I know that we've had some parallels in our journey, and we were talking before we went live, it's kind of like a brother-sister story here, where we both came from more of a corporate, kind of square existence.
Amrit: Very square.
Amanda: Yeah, very square. Yes. Went through lots and lots of turmoil, came out on the other end, and wanted to share what we've learned with the world. And for me, the core of that has been astrology. And I know that you incorporate astrology on your platform as well, but you also introduce a lot of other types of voices. So can you just tell us a little bit about that journey, especially for people out there who are considering making a jump from a life that doesn't feel totally aligned?
Amrit: Yeah. Thank you so much for having me, Amanda. I can't tell you how much I love The Astrology Hub and all the work you guys do. And it's a bit surreal for me. I'm gonna be pinching myself still on the other side of this, that, “Oh my God, I was on The Astrology Hub Podcast.” So thank you so much for having me. I really, really, really do appreciate being here. Yeah, and having read your book, I mean, there are definitely parallels, and I love that you've picked up on them.
I mean, for me, generally, I find I've had two major dark nights of the mind, as we call them, in my past, in the short lifetime that I've lived so far. Feels long, but one of them was that I struggled with six years of depression, and that actually led me to a very transformative process and journey when, you know, I was finally diagnosed. And yeah, that completely, completely transformed my life, but in a really heavy way.
Like, I went through, you know, for an adolescent young male—I think I was 22, 23 at the time—to be sitting opposite a psychologist to sort of tell you, “Hey, like, you're clinically depressed.” And this is a while ago; we're talking almost 20 years ago now, you know. It just feels… It's interesting because nowadays, mental health is a much more common conversation in the common zeitgeist and vernacular, but back then it wasn't as much, though it was starting to. People were starting to have the conversation. Like, you might have a broken knee, but you know, something's going on inside your head. You know, I might not see it, but it's present.
So that was a deep part of my life that we turned the corner on, basically through meditation and mindfulness. I was prescribed antidepressants at the time, and—full disclosure, I don't wanna sound like people shouldn't take antidepressants—but I remember taking my first pill, and it sort of put me in this amazing place. Like, I resurfaced. It was just amazing. Yeah. And then, coming back down four hours later, I was just like, “Nah, I'm not sure about this rollercoaster.”
And so I sort of, even looking back at the young man then, I sort of picked up the box of pills and sort of just laid them down in the bin and just walked away from them a little bit cautiously. And again, there are these moments of lucidity, touch wood, that have happened every now and then, and I'm just like in awe of them, 'cause I still don't know where that came from—for such a young man to have a lifeline and then sort of throw it away, basically.
But there was an angel. My psychiatrist prescribed me the pills, but my doctor, who referred me to my psychiatrist, gave me a mindfulness exercise.
Amanda: Mm.
Amrit: And at the time when she gave it to me, I was like, “Mindfulness?” She was like, “You should learn how to breathe.” And I was like, “Breathe? Come on, woman. Like, breathe? What are we talking about here? Obviously, I'm breathing.” Completely like, “I'm sitting opposite you, you know? I don't need to learn how to breathe.”
Amanda: Yes.
Amrit: And, um, but she was right. My God, was she right, you know?
Amanda: Mm.
Amrit: And learning mindfulness taught me a lot about my depression and about my anxiety, and that brought me to Eckhart Tolle's work and about the present moment. And so with Eckhart's work, slipping into the future is all about anxiety. Slipping into the past is all about depression. And fundamentally, there's nothing wrong with looking forward and backwards. I mean, that's how we plan for the future. That's how the species got to where we are. I mean, looking back and learning from our mistakes is incredibly important, but it's the fact that we stay too future or we stay too past, you know?
Now, I've obviously, for a while there, I was a meditation teacher as well, so your breath is the most real-time thing you have. I was about to say that even your breath has a lag between real-time presence, but I'm getting a bit too nerdy on it. But your breath is the most real-time thing you have in the present moment. And so anchoring to the breath, coming into the present moment, and realizing ultimately this is where you're most resourced. And so that was an incredible, incredible process in my life. I don't wish depression upon my worst enemy, 'cause it's almost like you don't know you're in it until you're out of it.
Amanda: Mm.
Amrit: It's this really weird thing. It's like the fish in the fishbowl type sort of thing. Yeah. You're just swimming in it, and you think the whole world is functioning like that, and they're really not. They're really not.
And then I ended up in my second dark night of the mind about, I think it would be seven or eight years later, and it was my Saturn Return, as you will. And I think there was… I'm not gonna remember the study too much, but there was a quote somewhere along in my astrological studies where they said, “If you're going through a dark night of the mind, go consult your astrologer.” And it was like, ah, I get why.
Amanda: Mm. I get why. Mm.
Amrit: Because it provides that context. A lot of the things that caused my depression were some of these values that I had to rewrite for myself.
Amanda: Mm.
Amrit: And that was probably one of the biggest things a psychiatrist gave me—the growth mindset. She didn't call it that, but she was like, “Hey, there's a lot of things that aren't working, but you're actually malleable on the inside. You can change.” And I was like, “Wait, I can change?” So that was pretty profound.
And so then began this thing that I called Mandala Moments. Every two weeks I invited people over and we'd watch something or we'd just shoot the shit on Jungian psychology or archetypes, spirituality, Buddhist philosophy, Christian mysticism—all sorts of stuff. People would just come over to my house, in my living room. I'd just make chai—chats and community, 'cause I'd learnt how to make chai as well. Very fitting for an Indian. And every two weeks, people would come over. And everyone insisted, everyone kept insisting, “You should start a podcast. These conversations are amazing.”
Amanda: Mm.
Amrit: I actually had a big reluctance to it at the beginning, just because every time I turned on a podcast I was listening to an expert, and I didn't feel like I was an expert on anything. My vibe is I'm a perpetual student, you know? Vedic, Western, Hellenic, all the other 20 things—there's a lot going on. And I'm sure I'm just getting started in many ways as well, you know? It's, um, I'm always looking to learn. So I was like, this podcasting thing, I'm not an expert in anything. I don't think I am right for a podcast.
But everybody kept pushing. And as you would have it, a mentor appeared. I could feel that everybody that was coming to these Mandala Moments conversations and loving them, touch wood, was saying, “Hey, you should start a podcast.” And a mentor appeared saying, “Hey, like, I'm looking for someone to, you know, can you pig into my podcast program?” And I realized I was in the way.
And so I was just like, “You know what?” I woke up at 4:00 AM—again, another moment of lucidity. I woke up at 4:00 AM and just sort of said… I bought the program, and it was a massive investment for me at the time. I just woke up in the morning after that going, “Did I actually do that? Did I clean out my savings?” My wife was away traveling, and I bought this podcast program of all things, while I'm having this really existential, like, “I don't really know if my job's for me. What am I doing with my life?” sort of thing. Was this like a Hail Mary or something? I had no idea what was going on.
But yeah, eight weeks later, The Inspired Evolution was born. And it was called The Inspired Evolution fundamentally because I could see that I wasn't evolving in my life, in my day-to-day job, which I'm spending so many hours of my day in. Yeah, we're talking like 60, 70-hour weeks. And I just wasn't inspired by the people that I was working alongside, yeah? It's an amazing job for the right person.
For the longest time, my life coaching practice has been about understanding your values, because I was living out of alignment with my values. Now, I can say that in a very succinct sentence to you now, but the pain of living through that was, whoa. But now I use astrology to align people, 'cause I find it's even richer and deeper in all the ways that it shows you all the things. But the values, I still stand by them—like, understanding your values is core. And so yeah, then I found people such as yourself, you know, teachers, authors, speakers—people that were having an impact, that were living in alignment with the things that mattered to them. And that, I could just… I was just like, “How are you doing this?” So there were two layers to the podcast when it started: it's like, you're obviously up to something amazing, but then you've also made that your life. How'd you do that? Inspired Evolution.
Amanda: Oh, yeah. It's so good. It's so good. It's such a beautiful illustration of that inward journey that's happening, that process that's happening. And like you said, those moments of grace, like where do those come from? Where does that moment of lucidity—why do we wake up at 4:00 AM with the impulse to buy the podcast program, or whatever it is? And there is a ripening, like a blossoming, a readiness. So all the other things you were doing were cultivating the soil. I'm wondering when astrology came in. Like, was that part of this whole journey?
Amrit: No. Not yet. No.
Amanda: Okay. So when did that happen?
Amrit: To your point, yeah, I mean, I went through a Saturn Return, and at the time I didn't know I was going through a Saturn Return, yeah. But I do think it's kind of cool that a Saturn Return is like, if you're in a personal development or spiritual community, it's like the thing that does sort of… it finds its way into your ear somehow, some which way. People do talk about it a little bit. It's like you may not know a lick of astrology, but somehow a Saturn Return will tuck itself into the back of your head a little bit, you know?
Amanda: Yeah. Um, good old Saturn, you know, diligently gets there.
Amrit: Yeah. And I have found, yeah, it was Saturn—my subsequent Saturn square—where astrology came in. And it came in this really—I don't wanna say sneaky way—but yeah, we started doing… like in the podcasting space, we started interviewing astrologers. It was just, you know, we had a personal development podcast. Spirituality was a big part of what mattered to me, and so we started turning more and more corners into more and more spiritual personal development. And then it was like, “Well, astrology. Like, we should get some of these astrologers on and have some conversations about, you know, what they have to say about things.” ‘Cause we get, to your point earlier, all sorts of people on the podcast—neuroscientists, quantum mystics, quantum scientists, astrologers.
And the astrology conversations were being very well received, and I was just feeling like I'm speaking to astrologers and, you know, perpetual student vibes, and I'm like, “I don't really know about a lot of the things that they're talking about.” And so I went away and started studying astrology just to be able to hold my own in the conversations a little bit better. So the narrative—and you know, this is how I look at astrology really deeply.
The Saturn Experience
Amrit: One of my favorite things about astrology is the context piece. You know, when you start to learn astrology, all of a sudden there's context to the content of your life. And as a life coach, for me, I was like, oh, it was just such a sigh of relief, you know, to just feel into the space that the stars are holding for us.
Amanda: Yeah.
Amrit: You know, and the energetics and the archetypal energies through the time, and you're like, “Oh, what a relief.” And it was interesting 'cause my Saturn square was way easier than my Saturn Return. Obviously, a return is a return, but it was interesting to sort of see, oh, I'm coming up on a Saturn square, and I'm learning astrology at the same… It was a bit Inception-y, the dream within the dream.
Amanda: Mm-hmm.
Amrit: And I was like, okay, so the next 10 months for me in particular was just like head down, bum up, be disciplined about something because it's Saturn, and you know, there'll be something to show for it. But is it gonna feel borderline burnie-outie, or you know? And I was like, yeah, probably, because—you know, and we can talk more about Saturn if we need to, but your audience probably is very familiar with it.
But yeah, the key thing in there is I just applied myself, and all of a sudden these astrological studies just started… I wanna say this: they started studying themselves around me is the only way I can really describe it. Yeah. And I was showing up, and I was studying Vedic, and I was studying Hellenistic, and Western. It was really cool 'cause I had these really great teachers to learn from as well. One thing I don't think people get to see much of—and giving your audience as well, the community of astrologers—oh—
Amanda: Oh, I know.
Amrit: I'd do it just for the community, let alone the actual… like, my God.
Amanda: I know.
Amrit: I mean, I would be doing these interviews, and the minute they found out I was studying a little bit around it, these world-class astrologers—Pam Gregory, Heather Ainsworth—they're sitting with you for like an extra hour, an extra 90 minutes, giving you an education. They're just so generous with their time. Yes.
Amanda: I know. I know. I know the spontaneous readings and the “let's look at your chart”—
Amrit: Oh my God, and it's like, oh my God, and just explanations of things. Yeah. Like Chiron, and I'm like, wow. And so, one of the sidebar notes, yeah, tangent: I am so grateful that I didn't know so much about astrology when we started getting these astrologers on, because now that I've started studying astrology and I look back at the astrologers we had on the podcast, I'm still starstruck from the conversations that I had in the past, 'cause I just… you know? The caliber of astrologers that came on the podcast, just unbelievable. Same caliber of astrologers you feature on The Astrology Hub.
Amanda: Right. Right?
Amrit: Um, and yeah, and I was just learning from these incredible people, unbeknownst to me. And I was like, oh, this is astrology, and just meandering my way through there. So it was the Saturn square. And what Saturn… and this is, for me, it's a dialogue, touch wood. But the conversation Saturn had with me at that time during the Saturn square was it's always been about purpose, inspired evolution. The life coaching thing, there, that was cute.
Amanda: Hmm.
Amrit: Yeah. And values, well done, you know? But really, here's astrology to underpin that. And it's still coaching, and it's still astrology, you know? But it's the two together, and I'm looking forward now to the next Saturn square to sort of see what Saturn has to say to me at that point in time. I'm sure it'll evolve, and something else will pop out on the shoulders of all of that. But it was a really meaningful turn in my life, as these transits for all of us are.
Amanda: Right. Yeah, it's almost like Saturn came in and gave you more of a structure for the work that you were doing, more of a sustainable, long-term kind of foundation. Yeah.
Amrit: Big time. I find myself in my readings sort of saying usually—and I always qualify—I say Saturn Returns can usually show up in many different ways, so please don't program in what I'm about to say. But generally, what I have seen from having read for a lot of people is it shows up in one of two different ways.
If you're misaligned, then it sort of shows up the way that happened to me in my Saturn Return. Saturn is like a grandfather. My dad's got a little bit of Saturn energy, so I'll be like, “Oh, Dad, I really hurt my wrist.” And he's like, “Oh, that sucks, son. What are you gonna do about it?” And I'm like, “Oh, I don't know. I'll just sort of see how it goes.” He's like, “What'd you do?” I was like, “Oh, I fell off my bike and I just landed on it. Like, everything else is fine, just my wrist.” And he's like, “Oh, you should probably get it checked out.” And I was like, “Ah, maybe she'll be all right. You know, I get through these things all right, Dad.” And he's like, “Which wrist?” And then I'll show him. He's like, “That one?” And he'll grab it, and I'll be like, “Ah!” and he's like, “Yeah, go get it checked out.” “What, Dad? You didn't have to get it that way.” But Saturn's that sort of masculine grandfather kind of energy.
And so I say that if you're misaligned, Saturn has no trepidations in applying pressure into the wound, kind of going, “You're misaligned. Yeah, like, you're not really loving this corporate 9-to-5, are you?” And you're like, “Yeah, but everybody does it, and it should be tolerable.” And Saturn goes, “This should be tolerable?” And you're like, “Oh, uh, yeah, yeah. But I mean, everybody's doing it, so it should be fine.” It's like, “Oh, really? Everybody's doing it, so it should be fine. This should be fine?” And you're like, “Oh. Oh, um, yeah, I think I got it. I think I got it.” And it's like, “Really? You've got it, do you?” And it's like boing, and you end up in your alignment.
Now, is it a fun way to go about it? I mean, it's a masculine way to go about it. You know, it's Saturn's vibes, yeah? And so if you're misaligned, Saturn can feel like it puts pressure on depression. Like, it can be a hallmark of one of your Saturn Returns. But trust in that it's realigning you—and again, context, right? Like, how helpful for the content that we're going through. Yeah.
Then I find if we are aligned, then Saturn shows up—still Saturn, still masculine—and goes, “Oh, what you're up to?” Like, I was up to life coaching and podcasting, and then it's like you've got one foot on your accelerator, and Saturn slams his foot on top of yours and goes, “Vroom.” And it's like you're borderline burning out through your Saturn transit, and so much shows up for you through those periods because there's so much energy.
Before my Saturn square, I was a life coach, and I had a podcast, yeah? And if you listened to my podcast and wanted to work with me, you came to my one-to-one coaching, and that's how we worked together. Yeah, and the podcast was doing reasonably well. On the other side of the Saturn square, because we'd put so much work into it, the podcast grew exponentially during the Saturn square. We launched experiences and retreats that we're taking to people. Astrology—three different modalities of astrology—came into my life. Like, the entire business of The Inspired Evolution, if you look at it that way, so many offerings showed up. And it's like now we've got a suite of nine different things that we offer to people.
Amanda: Mm.
Amrit: And it's like, where did all of that come from? And there is no way someone normal—like even myself normal—could have done that without the support of the celestials. Like, in 10 months? What are you talking about? How do you birth all of… like, that doesn't make sense. But if you're aligned, Saturn goes, “Good job. There's way more.” And you're like, off you go, right? So generally I find those are the nature of the transits that show up with Saturn, and that's what I experienced in my two transits that I've been through, that I've been aware of and reflected back on through this period.
But I don't want everybody to feel like… you know, I'm always reminding people how you can also feed the stars, you know? How these transits show up is also unique to your life as well. So don't, please don't program these two energies in, but feel into it. But I've noticed this from the readings that I've conducted.
Amanda: I would love to hear from the community. Like, have you all had this kind of either, you know, when you were misaligned, it just… there was a lot of pressure on that wound, and you felt that you needed to make a change? If you feel you've been more aligned and maybe you've gone through your second Saturn Return or one of these quarter opposition moments, has it been an accelerator? I think this is fascinating. Like, it would be really interesting to get more and more data on this because it makes sense to me. I mean, it makes sense that it would show itself in either one of those two expressions. And maybe there's some in-between, and that'd be interesting to see as well.
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Integrating Vedic, Hellenistic & Modern Astrology
Amanda: Let's talk a little bit about your studies in three different astrological approaches.
Amrit: Modalities, yeah.
Amanda: Yeah. So we have Vedic—
Amrit: Still studying. Just to be completely honest, still studying. Yes, of course.
Amanda: Oh my gosh. There's always like—
Amrit: The hallmark of divinity studies I've learned is, like, the more you learn, the less you know. I think we talked about this when you came on.
Amanda: It's so true. The more you learn, the less you know. Yes, exactly. I mean, and I think even the astrologers that have been doing this for 50 years would say that they are continually learning. I mean, how is that possible? Continually. We look at Rick Levine, and we're like, “He's a master. He must know all of it.” It's like, nope, he's still learning. Uh-huh.
So, okay. Western, Vedic. That alone is interesting. Like, can we mesh those together? And then, Hellenistic. So how do you work with them in your readings? Have you found a way to synthesize them, or do you do like either a Vedic reading or a Western reading? How are you doing that?
Amrit: So one of the things that came to me is I realized that they're different tools for different use cases, and engineers are like this, right? ‘Cause you know that you don't really throw anything out as an engineer, right? Like, this could be useful for this, but this could be useful for that, and this could be useful for this, and this could be useful for that. So, horses for courses—different tools for different use cases—and that's very much what started to transpire for me between Western and Vedic.
So, what I find, yeah, is if you picture the globe—for those that are… if you picture the globe, the Earth—and then everything inside the Earth is ruled by Western astrology, in my humble opinion. Yeah. Now, why is that? Because Western astrology is pinned to the seasons. Yeah. It's called the tropical zodiac. Yeah. And the “tropic” is a reference to the seasons. And so at the beginning of spring, it is Aries. Aries has this springy energy about it, right? It's the pioneer. It's like we've been dormant, and it's like, “I'm ready to be the first one out of the gate.” Yeah. Um, and so everything's springing, everything's busting, it's coming open. Yeah.
But to the point with what Vedic astrologers will say is when you look out at the horizon and out into space, yeah, where the actual stars are—sidereal, right?—you look out and it's like, “Whoa, actually that's Pisces.” So is it Pisces or is it Aries? Yeah. So what I say is when you look at the globe, everything that's happening inside the planet, yeah, just for a moment, play along with me, is ruled by Western astrology. Yeah. But then when you look outside the planet where the stars actually are, yeah, it is ruled by Vedic astrology, right? So you look at where the actual stars are actually placed, and sidereal is there.
Now, there are even some limitations, if we're honest. Yeah. These modalities have been around for thousands of years. I don't want to sound blasphemous, but we discussed this in our podcast: I think astrology's going through a bit of a renaissance. I'm really fascinated by true sky astrology because not everything fits in perfect 30-degree increments as well. And I think back when, as Steve Judd refers to, back to when we were like these knuckle-dragging things coming off the savanna—is how he puts it—I mean, I don't think we were looking up and dividing everything into 30-degree increments either, right? So my next thing I want to study is true sky astrology, right? This continues going because it's like there's actually 13 constellations on the ecliptic and so on and so forth, but I'm digressing super hard there.
So everything inside the Earth is ruled by Western astrology. Everything outside the Earth is ruled by Vedic astrology. Now, if we can, just bear with me, sub the planet, the globe out, yeah, for the Inspired Evolution logo, which is a brain. Yeah. So everything happening inside your brain—yeah, your perception, your perceived reality, your relationship with reality, which is what most people are looking for when they're coming to an astrology reading: “When is it gonna feel like…” or “When is this gonna happen?” Like, what's going on for me? Your perceived relationship with reality, your internal experience of the outside world, yeah, is ruled, in my humble opinion, by Western astrology.
But when things are actually happening, there is—I find Vedic is such an incredible predictive tool. So because that's what's actually happening around you. Yeah. So the… and like self-awareness or like depth psychology, that self-awareness through the lens of astrology, Western astrology is the crème de la crème. This is how you feel about yourself. This is how you navigate your reality and how you feel about it as you're going through it. Like, I cannot speak highly enough of it. Like, I just… I've obviously drunk the Kool-Aid, so pardon me.
But when it comes to predictive technology, you know, like what's coming up, what phases of your life… “Oh, this phase of your life is ruled by Saturn. This is your Dasha at the moment.” And so that is ruled by Vedic, yeah? And that's the predictive technology there.
And so when I decode it down, for an example, just so this doesn't get all abstract and conceptual—the rubber's gonna hit the road at the end of the day with an engineer—it's like someone will say, “Hey…” Like, Vedic might say, “Hey, you're gonna get your promotion on the 1st of May.” Yeah? And then Western will say something like, “You'll get your promotion somewhere… the transit's coming. We've got orbs. Somewhere towards the last week of May, first week of June.” Yeah? And then what will happen? You'll get your promotion, and you'll be aware of it, and it'll land for you. And you'll be like, “Huh, got my promotion on the 31st of May. This Western astrology thing works. That's exactly when it said I would get it, and it gave me a two-week window with the orbs, and I got it.” And I say, “Hey, how do you know that your boss's boss didn't approve your promotion on May 1st—Vedic—and by the time it trickled down to you—perceived relationship with reality, arrived—it was a few weeks later?” So you feel, perceptually, like you got your promotion at that point, but when did it actually get done? Oh, totally.
Amanda: And I'm just wondering if you've… like, do you have evidence of this? Is this your idea, or have you… because there's a lot of overlap happening right now.
Amrit: Should we, can we, should we talk about my own rising? Sure. Because in Vedic, I'm an Aries rising.
Amanda: Okay.
Amrit: And in Western, I'm a Taurus rising, yeah? Okay. And one of my jokes is like, I'm like lazily rushing there. Okay? ‘Cause the shadow of Taurus, yeah, and my perceived sense of reality is like, “Slow down, Rasta. Take it easy.” Yeah?
Amanda: Right.
Amrit: And like, I can feel like things nice and slow is better, and it's like things need to change—and it's like Inspired Evolution—like things need to change, it's like, take your time. You know? It's like, do they really need to change? Like, it's familiar.
Amanda: Mm-hmm.
Amrit: Yeah, and I'm just speaking to the shadows at the moment. There's a lot of light to Taurus. Please, you know, pardon me for that. Yeah. Um, but it's just easier to connect to the shadow in a short conversation like this. And with Aries, it's like pioneering. It's like things aren't happening fast enough. You know, what's next? You know, we've gotta birth something. We've gotta seed something.
And so for me, the rising, like when you look at Aries, yes, the Inspired Evolution is very Aries. Like, most of my friends feel how I feel, felt about corporate, but they've still got both feet squarely in it, but I sort of took a step out and then sort of like, “Okay, well, I got a little bit of bravery, a little bit of Aries. Let's sort of see how it goes,” and just, you know? And it's like let's step into the next without knowing what it is, which is very Aries.
Amanda: Mm. Very Aries.
Amrit: So when you look at my body of work at large, it's Aries. Externally what's happening is Aries. The Inspired Evolution is driven by an Aries rising. Yeah? But my experience of it is Taurus rising.
Amanda: Mm. Wow. Okay, you guys. Play with that with your charts. See? So we would know that any planetary placement we have, like if you're Western-oriented, which most of our astrology is, so most of my audience is… but so anything below 23 degrees is gonna go to the previous sign. Is that correct?
Amrit: Yeah. Yep.
Amanda: Okay. Very logical indeed. So anything in your chart… Now, let me ask you this. If you look at a chart and it's the same in Vedic—
Amrit: I've got that in my Sun sign. Great question.
Amanda: Me too. I mean, totally. I'm 29 Capricorn Sun, and 28 Capricorn Venus, so that would completely stay the same. A lot of my things actually would stay the same. How do you… Is that just a doubling down on it? Is that just like the internal match of the external?
Amrit: I find it, yeah, I find it really helpful, but even within astrology when we start getting there, the degrees matter. Right. I mean, you've had incredible astrologers on. So like, an early decan Virgo is very different to a late decan Virgo as well, if we're real about it, yeah? Right. Like, late decan Virgos I feel like have much more Libran and Taurean qualities about them, whereas early Virgos are much more like the Virgos that we know. Yeah, so it does change a little bit, but I mean, overarchingly, without getting into the weeds too much—pardon me for that—yes, I find it really helpful to have that point of congruence.
So it's like, okay, for me, it's like Virgo is how I feel, and Virgo is what we go about for. My word for Virgo is care. Virgoans care.
Amanda: Mm. I like that. That's what they do. That's good. Yeah?
Amrit: Yeah. Most of the challenges that come out of there… one of the things I say for Virgos—I just can't help myself—is understanding the orientation of that light of care is really important for a Virgoan, and I can speak to it for myself. ‘Cause when I say Virgoans care, most of you, I mean, I'm part of your audience, you know, we're mostly spiritually aware, you know, and we would like to think that caring about others 50% of the time and caring about myself 50% of the time is probably the recipe. Like, care—Amrit said care—and I'll care about others and I'll care about myself, and happy days.
And what I've noticed is that each Virgo—and please listen in for yourself—but like orienting the light of care, understanding how much of the light of care you're actually gonna orient outwards and inwards, is actually a really important conversation for a Virgo.
Amanda: Mm. Right?
Amrit: Just as an example. Why? Well, let's say you turn it in, yeah? Like, let's just say you care about… let's do the easier one first, right? Let's say you care about everybody else 80% of the time, yeah, and yourself 20% of the time. Mother Teresa, Virgoan qualities. Mm. Yeah. This is where you become a martyr, people-pleasing. Virgos struggle with the “Don't worry about me.” They become self-deleting, you know? “Don't worry about what I have to say. It's more harmony if you guys sort of…” “I just care, you know, I'm caring, and it's okay.” People-pleasing, martyrdom, yeah, self-deleting is the easiest way that I sort of describe it if you give too much to others, yeah—very much giving to the point of like self-sacrifice and burning yourself out just in the giving. Virgos are great givers, struggle with receiving, these Virgos, yeah?
But then you meet some Virgos, and let's just turn the light of care inverted, like 80% caring about oneself and 20% about others, yeah? And this is like, “Am I the right person for this?” Virgo can be quite neurotic, touch wood, right? It's like when the light of care is turned inwards, you're caring about yourself so much before like, “Am I the right person to put this thing out into the world? Am I doing this correctly, or am I the right…” You know, and it's like they so internally turn the light of care… and it's borderline narcissistic in some ways how it ends up. Please don't let me label Virgos as narcissists, it's not accurate, but do you know what I mean? Like, just that much caring about oneself.
And so you would think that 50/50 is the right balance, right? Like, I care about myself… You know, the paralysis by analysis, the perfectionism conversation is when all that care… like, Virgos are perfectionists. “Yeah, I'm trying to get it right so that when it comes out it's…” you know.
50/50 I have found… one of the other words that is really strong for Virgo is service. So for me, the orientation is 30/70. For me, and I invite my clients to find their own, yeah? Um, some of them are big martyrs because of the type of audience that we have, right? And for them, just even learning to come back to, like, you know, 60/40 is probably a more mature conversation. For me, it's 30/70. I've just noticed if I'm 50/50, I'm still judging whether what I'm meant to put out in the world is ready for the world, because of the quality that I want it to be. And “80% good enough is good enough” is a really good mantra for a Virgo. But it gives me the opportunity to like get out of my own way and just realize, oh, you're here to serve. 30% care about yourself, look after yourself, but 70% is about service for me. It's like the name of the game is service, and Virgos come alive in service. They care about others. They're a natural carer, right?
Amanda: Mm.
Amrit: So for me, the fact that, to your point earlier, the fact that I've got Virgo in Western and Vedic in my Sun does really help me square things away. Yeah, it does really help me square things away, and it is a point of congruence, which I find—oh, okay, so I'm a carer and a carer and a carer through and through, and I like to care for others in the work that I do in the world as well.
But I don't find it too trippy when your things are different as well. Like, my word for Taurus is value for my rising. My word for Aries is initiate. Yeah, so there's initiative that the Inspired Evolution step—like the initiative, like, what are you here for? Yeah, there's like an initiative there, and it's like, what do you personally value? Yeah, I did a whole thing on values, right?
Amanda: Right.
Amrit: And so is it as incongruent when you don't have the matching? No. In fact, the narrative is somewhat richer. Yeah. Um, but yes, to your point, there is a grounding, I would sort of say, speaking to someone that in Western is double Earth, when you have the consistencies among the signs in certain placements. Does that make sense?
Amanda: It does. Okay, so when you sit down to do a reading, are you looking at both? Or are you putting them all together?
Amrit: So it's interesting because… yeah, it's a great question. So it depends. Usually, it depends largely on… so some people are coming in either for a Western reading or a Vedic reading at the outset. But even within the Western reading, I do pepper Vedic elements in—like, I can't help myself. ‘Cause in Western they'll say Saturn rules your purpose, yeah? But how do you ignore the North Node when you know what you know about Vedic, you know? Like, you just can't. Yeah. And so yeah, so I end up reading across a few things in those readings.
And then with Vedic, you know, I will produce the Vedic chart and have a look at what's there. But also I produce what is… again, just be mindful, guys, you really need to know what you're doing when you're doing some of this stuff. I will produce the Fagan-Bradley Western chart for a Vedic sort of transposition. It's a bit trippy, but you can go get a Western chart for your Vedic placements. And I like pulling those charts out because you can sort of see—and I know this is borderline blasphemous for Vedics, pardon me—but you can sort of see where the outer planets are for that individual. Right? And you can start to see some of the geometry that's in there, and the Western does influence some of the Vedic reading as well.
But I try my best to read true, but if I'm honest, yeah, there is a cross-pollination between the two, just because in my awareness the two are very intermingled in that way as well. But I try to stay true to the Western reading to the Western, and the Vedic to the Vedic. Um, and most people, to your point, come for a Western reading, but oftentimes they've got questions about some of their Vedic placements, and I'm happy—like, I love ripping in deep into some of those conversations as well. It's like, “Hmm, what do you see about this, and what do you see about that?” And yeah, and the phases that they're in, you know? So, yeah. Does that help square things away there?
Amanda: Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think so. I think this is something that people can dabble with and play with. And you know, one of the things in doing what I've done for so long, I can't tell you how many people I've come across who either find out their birth time was wrong—they thought it was one time, and then they find out it was something else—or they start to play around with different house systems. They were Whole Sign and then they go Placidus, or the other way around, or something totally different. They start to… you know, there's different interpretations of the North and the South Node. There's so many different ways to look, and this has been my experience—I don't know if you've had this as well—is that the information that comes to you when it comes to you is exactly what you needed at that time.
Amrit: Oh.
Amanda: It doesn't make what you thought about yourself before not true or not useful. It's just that as you continue to grow and have more and more awareness, more bits of information are gonna keep coming in. And so the more flexible we can be in integrating those, and not having to make one right or one wrong—just being able to hold the truth of all of it—the more, to your point, the more dynamic, the more rich, the more nuanced, the more human we really are.
And so, just sitting here in this seat talking to astrologers for 10 years, every single week, many times, multiple times a week—and actually, the point of Astrology Hub has been many different perspectives on the same topic—I've had to really learn how to hold that. And I always encourage, especially new students, don't get too attached. Like, play with all these things. Try them on. And could it all be true? Like, could it all be true? Different tools for different use cases—
Amanda: Exactly. And how they apply to your own experience. Yes. Yes, and actually, like—and that's the genius. Wasn't it Yogananda who said that we all must go through a phase where we learn astrology, and we learn our charts, and we learn all about it, ultimately to transcend, ultimately to move beyond it?
Amrit: Mm.
Amanda: And isn't that interesting? You know, so—yeah.
Amrit: Oh, big time, because I like to say that astrology is a map for duality.
Amanda: Mm.
Amrit: Yeah. Yeah? Yes. And so when you think about the non-dual conversation, it's such a rich one. We have a lot of non-dual teachers come on the podcast as well. And then the astrology literally with its polarities, you know, and how it all sort of maps out—Virgo/Pisces, you know, Aries/Libra—like, it's a total map for how we navigate duality, in my humble opinion.
Amanda: Well, and what if all of the archetypes are in us to a certain degree? And what if we can actually—
Amrit: Oh, they so are. They so are.
Amanda: —activate them at will, and actually access all of these archetypal energies? Like, that, you know—
Amrit: Well, one of the trippy things we do at The Inspired Evolution, or that I offer, is called Astro Vision. Yeah. And that's a blend from a decade's worth of life coaching, purpose coaching, and transformational life coaching, and stepping into astrology. And we take your zodiac wheel and we look at each of the houses, and we look, we pull out all your planets and all your planetary placements. Yeah, we start with a blank zodiac wheel and go, “What is the first house about? Second, third, fourth, fifth?” And we go all the way around the 12 houses and go, “Let's do a vision board,” and we call it the Astro Vision Board, right?
Amanda: Beautiful.
Amrit: And so you build your vision for that house with the Astro Vision Board. Yeah. And then you start to do the second house, third house, fourth house, and it's like a beautiful program where you go through and it's like, oh. And for me, it's important because it reminds you of your own self-will and self-determination as well. It's like, “This is my chart, and this is what I would like to see in each of these houses and domains.” And then you look at your placements and sort of see what's supporting you in each of those, right? Oh, it's kind of fun.
Yeah, but it takes out… because so much of like, oh, the astro… like, and all of the astrologers—I love The Astrology Hub podcast, sorry, I know I sound like this guy, but I'm not sorry. I love the astrology. Every single astrologer you get on will never say, “Oh, because the planet said this, you're doomed.” Absolutely not. They say the stars influence; they don't govern. Yeah, they influence. Yeah, that's such an important thread that every teacher that comes on The Astrology Hub podcast continues to echo, by design.
Amanda: Mm. We purposefully seek astrologers who have that perspective that is empowering, because I'm not interested in putting things out that are gonna perpetuate fear or victimhood or feeling like something is happening to us, because it's just not true. We really are in a co-creative experience with the planets themselves.
Amanda: So, okay, I have to ask you, 'cause you were talking about your Astro Vision, your Astro Visioning, which is so cool. It's similar to like our treasure maps that we do every year, which is so fun. And then I was gonna say, whatever star system you came from, I think we came from the same one, because literally you're speaking and I'm just like, I would say the same exact things. Like, this is… it's such kindred souls. And so it's just—
Amrit: Brother, sister.
Amanda: Yeah, totally. It's beautiful to see how we… You don't even know, there's people out there that have similar visions as you, and this has been one of the things I've loved in doing our New Moon ceremonies. Sometimes we will share our visions, and what I've noticed is there are similarities, but then there's something so unique about the way each person's carrying it or how they wanna fulfill it or how they want to offer their gifts. And it's just so fun to meet someone, I'm just like, oh my gosh, we live in very different parts of the world, we're different ages, we probably have very different charts, maybe, but we're also really expressing a very similar purpose. Kindred. Yes. Kindred. Kindred. Yeah, I love that word. Beautiful.
So, okay. I also wanna ask one more question, and this is kind of a hard question because when people ask me this question, I find it hard. However, because you sit in a similar seat as I do, talking to a lot of different people that have a lot of different perspectives—
Amrit Sandhu on the Astrology of 2026
Amanda: Is there anything that you feel right now, in 2026—in this really huge vortex of transformation that we're in—is there anything that is coming up a lot from different modalities, different perspectives, different teachers, that you feel is important for all of us to be aware of?
Amrit: Essentially, essentially at this time, I feel like it's a very Shiva-Shakti kind of time, yeah? And I know I'm Indian, so I need to unpack that for you guys. But if I start to riff on all the different teachers, we could be here forever.
But one of the key things is this… I keep hearing consistently that 2026, as we step into—some will say 2027, some will say 2028, yeah—and looking at the astrologies of the time, the thing that's super present for me is that actually we're going through this significant shift that you and I discussed on the podcast from your worldview as well, which is we're going from all this Earth and, in our perceived relationship with time, we're going from all this Earth and Water frequency into so much of the outer planets being ruled by Air and Fire. I feel like that's sort of two inches in front of our face even though it's quite large. But at large, I sort of see a lot of things are breaking down at the moment for breakthroughs.
It's an Aquarian future we're moving into in many ways. I mean, how is it 2026 and we're still warring? Aquarius being avant-garde and being of the future, being the spirit that it is, looking back at now goes, “How is humanity not transcended this?” And to the point, I think we really are, but we need more of that Aquarian awareness, in my humble opinion, to sort of be like, “Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're more evolved than this.”
One of the things I find most people are coming to readings for is clarity. They're like, “Hey, can I find some clarity?” Yeah. And I'm like, “Hey, it feels like for me, we're in the middle of an initiation.” And one of my favorite movies is the movie 300. It's, you know, when I'm having a boy moment, I'm like, “I'm gonna go watch 300 again.” And there's a period where they banish the child out of the community or the civilization, whatever, and he gets banished into the wild. Imagine being that boy's mother for a second, yeah? He might be 12.
Amanda: Right.
Amrit: And you've just sent him out into the wilderness. And he's either gonna come back at 14 or 15, or he's not.
Amanda: Wow.
Amrit: What? You know? And so he goes out and he does his initiation. And I'm finding sometimes the questions that I'm getting in these readings are like, “Hey, I want some, a bit more clarity.” And it's kind of like you're out there in the wilderness kind of going, “Hey, who am I gonna be when I get back? Am I gonna be a statesman? Am I gonna be a blacksmith? Am I gonna be a warrior? What's gonna be my role?” I'm like, “Dude, you're still mid-initiation.” Yeah? Like, we need you to go through what you're going through to accrue the things that you're gonna accrue. Yeah. And then that dictates actually when you get back, what have you got going on, and how are you best of service? Yeah?
But asking these questions… and sometimes that's all people need to hear is like, “Actually, yeah, I am going through something.” And again, you know, one of my favorite things about astrology is resilience. I mean, when you've got context that you're going through something… I found one of my favorite things, I realized if my life felt like an initiation 24/7… because when you're going through an initiation, you don't know you're going through an initiation, 'cause we don't have rites of passages and stuff like this anymore. You're just like, “Oh my God, I'm doomed. Like, this is how I'm gonna feel for the rest of my life. Ah. What is going on with life?” But the minute I go, “Oh, I'm in a Saturn square,” or “I'm going through a Chiron Return,” it's like, “Oh, okay, so there's a light at the end of the tunnel.” And all of a sudden, just by knowing that—just that simple fact—all of a sudden I shed some stuff, and I'm like, “Whoa.” And I just show up way more resilient. It's like, “Oh, I'm in the middle of something.” The context provides you so much resilience. It's one of my favorite things about astrology.
So I feel like we're in a bend, yeah. You wanna talk about cycles, please listen to The Inspired Evolution podcast. There are so many different teachers talking about so many different cycles that are coming to an end, beginning now. 2026, 2027 moves into, like many will start to say, fresh new beginnings. Many will attest 2028. 2032 seems to be this real landmark year where everything steps into like, okay, we've done the work we needed to do in the initiation, and we're stepping into somewhere.
But 2026 does feel like this very crunchy period, if… I don't wanna call it that. I'm excited for the Jupiter moving into Leo that's coming up, actually. I know that firmly squares us into the fire and the air that's coming. Um, but I'm excited because a little bit of expression, right? Jupiter exalted in Cancer loves it, and so everybody's doing a lot of internal healing work, and there's a lot going on around the world at the moment. And I do feel like… but I find myself feeling like it's a bit of an incubator period. Even though there's a lot going on externally, internally it's quite incubatory because it's Jupiter in Cancer. Once we step into Leo, I'm excited for what that bursts into expression, into all the other fire and air that comes.
But this is a Shiva-Shakti time. We're in a bend. Things are shifting. It is like an initiation. But don't get… I mean, don't get focused on the walls that you're bouncing off and around right now. Yes, it is an initiation. Try and find the light through, and keep your focus there if you can, 'cause we're going through… this is an incredible time. Everybody says on my podcast, it's an incredible time to have chosen to be alive.
Amanda: Oh my God. Yes, yes, yes, and yes. And even the clarity piece. Trying to find clarity when we're in the middle of it—can we be okay not totally knowing, I think, is really… like, can we actually just rest into what is and who we're becoming, and trust that on the other side of this, there will be a point at which we have clarity? But it's okay if you don't right now, because it's not really a time that's designed for crystal clear clarity.
Amrit: And one of the mantras I find myself sort of offering to people is, like, I've never been more clear on how unclear I am.
Amanda: Totally.
Amrit: That's the second-best place to be, bro. Like, don't hate it. Don't hate it. It's actually the second-best place to be. You're super clear on how unclear you are. Like, that's actually… you're about to break through.
Amanda: Right.
Amrit: Focus on the light through the end of the tunnel. It's actually—
Amanda: You know, you know something you said when you had me on your podcast, and I was like, “Oh, I feel like there's a lot of beautiful things to talk about there,” but we didn't go in that direction.
The Meaning of Birth
Amanda: We were talking about birth and how I got to have the two very different experiences of birth, and to experience what an initiation it is, and how you actually come out on the other side 100% a different person, but the same person, but just so much deeper and more You.
Amrit: You realize parts of yourself. You've integrated parts of yourself.
Amanda: Exactly. Oh, yeah. And know you're capable of things and all those things. And then you said, “Well, women are so lucky that they have that. Like, men don't have that.”
And one of the things I love about astrology—I mean, I love all those things you just brought up: resilience, oh my God, yes; context, oh my God, yes. It gives you that you're not just endlessly running a marathon. Like, that's exhausting just to think about. When you know there's an end, it's like, “Okay, I can do this for that long. And I can pace myself, and I can show up for that.” And that's what astrology gives us, right? That idea of time and length, of how long we're in this initiation—all those good things.
But the other thing it gives us is rites of passage. And when we're aware of the Saturn—all the different Saturn cycles you've talked about—all the… the Chiron Return you just brought up, which I'm about to have. I'm about to have my Chiron Return. I'm about to have my progressed New Moon, which is like a huge deal. You know what I'm saying? Like, there's these things. But knowing that, it's like, oh my gosh, we can actually know when each other are going through things like that. We can know when we individually are going through things like that. We can choose to make them an initiation. We can choose to make them a rite of passage, and we can celebrate it that way. And that way, it's not men or women or male or female; we're humans. We are all going through these different rites of passage depending on our chart. Some of them are life cycle transits that we all walk through at different periods, right? So I'm with you in the importance of it, and it's another… if we're just gonna go and have a love song for astrology, it's another thing to love about what it brings to our lives. Oh.
Amrit: I mean, honestly, I got goosebumps when you started talking about it. And right now I feel like I wanna cry.
Amanda: Aw.
Amrit: Being present to a woman's birth, just being present to it changes a man. And that's her initiation. And men, I'm looking around, and we don't really have anything like that. But to your point, we absolutely do. And maybe this is what, you know, having moved through a Piscean era, moving into Aquarius, this is what's… you know, we've had to shed some of the masculine structures to come into this more. I find Aquarius is much… yes, it's she, it's her who's pouring the water, but it's much more like Aquarius is like everybody's equal. Like, it's got a lot of that equality in it, right?
Um, but yeah, it's interesting because I feel like, yeah, to your point, it's such a poetic point in terms of we are consistently, every once in a while, the stars are initiating us. Yeah. And we are going through our initiations, going through this like, holy cow, everybody told me you being an engineer was the thing. It's your one opportunity. Do not let go of that lifeline. And all of a sudden you go, “Huh, what's going on outside here, outside of White Picket Fence Lane?” And then taking a step out of it whilst everybody you know is like, “Hold tight,” and you're like, “I'm letting go.” Is like, and there's no context. But then you go, “Oh, it was a Saturn Return.” We are going through these initiations. We do have rites of passages, to your point, if we're aware of them. Yes. Um, and if we're aware of them, we get to feed the stars. We get to connect with them, and we actually get to double down and be like, “I'm going through a thing. Let me make the most of the transit.”
Amanda: I'm with you. I have the same perspective. Make the most. Like, you don't always get another opportunity to do it. And especially when you think about—I mean, with a book like yours, the way you wrote it, of course you're—
Amanda: I feel the same way. I mean, seriously—
Amrit: If you haven't read Amanda's book, guys, please. It's the best way to learn transits, in my humble opinion. It is so—
Amanda: Thank you. Oh.
Amrit: I still can't get over the fact that you don't identify as an astrologer. It's just like, hmm. Yeah, I do.
Amanda: Yeah.
Amrit: No, I know I'm still landing in the identity of it, but my God. Really nice book.
Amanda: Anyways, yes. Thank you. That is really nice for you to say. But like, I feel the same way because when I look back at that period of time that mainly the book is focused on, Pluto was so active in my chart at that time. That won't ever happen that same way ever again. So the fact that I actually got to, you know, astrology came into my life, I became aware of it, I got to actually start to get to know the archetype of Pluto—and for me, it was Pele, but it's the same thing—and really go deep into that. And there were all the gifts, and if I hadn't known, I would have lost that cycle, that moment. And yes, some of them cycle around again. Sometimes we get another… like, Saturn gives us plenty of opportunities, but it doesn't always work that way.
So I agree with you, and I think, you know, if men could even do that for each other—like bring awareness to the astrological transits, create containers where men… you should do this, by the way, where men or somebody should, where men are actually helping facilitate the deeper lessons and the context of what they're going through.
Amrit: The shifts.
Amanda: I mean, can you imagine how different our world would be? My God. I mean, this would… And I agree with you. I think many men are really reeling from the lack of that type of thing. And mainly they would have gotten that maybe from their fathers or their brothers, and a lot of that has dissipated. But we can think of Saturn as the father now. So if Saturn's the father, he's already got it built in. We've got plenty. So, may as well start to work with these things in that way. So we could probably talk forever. Like, I just l—
Amrit: Can I just add a couple of… I know, but I just wanna add a couple of things, that even just the spiritual gumption that you've got knowing, 'cause as every astrologer will say this, right? You chose that transition for that chart. You chose the chart. So you preloaded that you knew that this is coming through. Exactly. So the spiritual gumption that it gives you as well to kind of go, “Oh, I'm going through my Saturn's Return.”
Amanda: Yeah, yes.
Amrit: Notice how you show up different rather than like, copying it. Yeah. As opposed to like, oh, this is mine.
Amanda: Yes.
Amrit: Yeah. To your point. And then, yeah, I mean, I'm so excited for the Aquarian era we're in. There's just this other little point I'll just tuck in. Like, the minute you said, “I'm coming up on my Chiron's Return,” my heart just goes, and hey, like, I hope we stay… You've got an amazing community around you, obviously. You're Amanda Walsh. But also if you need anything, please reach out. Yes, you know? Like, Amrit's here. And just noticing that when we're going through this, to your point, like we're going through our own initiations individually, but also the Aquarian. So networking is like understanding that we're each going through these things at the times we're going through in the context that's carrying each of us based on our charts and our stars at the time, can actually bring us closer together to support each other as well. Like, yeah.
Amanda: Totally. The village. It gives us this common language—
Amrit: The village. The village.
Amanda: —that completely obliterates lines between us. It gives us this language we can share, an understanding. I say Chiron Return, you know what that means. Yeah. You know what that might bring up for me. You know what opportunities might be there, and all I had to say is Chiron Return. So this is, this is good. I think we're onto something. I really like it. And I'd love—
Amrit: I call the Chiron's Return a shift into elderhood.
Amanda: Wow. Geez, but mine's coming super early, 'cause I'm only 48. Ah. So I thought it was gonna be… I thought it was like 52.
Amrit: I've read for people, they say it's around 50.7 is usually when it hits. But to your point, I've found somewhere between the ages of 47—and this is why, part of why I think a lot of people try not to read for Chiron, because… but between the age, amongst many other things, but like 47 to 52, I've noticed in my readings there is a six-month window where the rubber hits the road with Chiron's Return. Um, and it's like, I can see it. It's like a full-on internal operating system update. You were previously running Windows, now you're running Mac. Externally not much has shifted, but internally it's like everything's shifted, and therefore you're like…
And I like to say it's the Rumi quote, “The cracks are where the light gets in.” Yeah. Yeah, so the previous 50 years—the wounding cycle, as they would call it, touch wood—it's almost like you're looking at crack, crack, crack, crack, crack, crack, crack, crack, crack, crack, crack, crack, crack. And then all of a sudden you go through Chiron's Return, you're like: crack, light; crack, light; crack, light, light, light, light, light, light, light, light, light, light, light, light, light. Oh. You know? And it's like, yeah, it's a really… it's a fascinating return. Um, yeah, if you need anything please do reach out, touch wood.
Amanda: Great. Thank you. That's, that's already so exciting. I love it. Okay. Well, you are just delightful. I told you that when I was on your show. I am so happy to have you here at Astrology Hub. It'd be so fun to have you back and just continue these conversations. Thank you for doing what you're doing. Thank you for going through that dark night of the mind, for choosing life, for choosing yourself, for choosing to show up. Even when it was really hard and dark, there was something in you that was still alive enough to choose life. And I just wanna thank you for that, because in some ways it could be easier to not do that. But I know that you had to make a lot of choices and a lot of sacrifices and a lot of scary decisions to bring yourself to where you're at now, and you're really having a positive impact on so many people. So thank you for that, and I just wanna acknowledge you in that. And thank you for coming on our show, and thank you for listening to The Astrology Hub Podcast and for being a part of our community. It's really good.
Amrit: Being absolutely in love with it. Yeah, of course. Absolutely, there's a lot to love, touch wood. Oh. Yeah, thank you so much for having me. It is such a treat and an honor to, yeah, to be here. It really is an honor. The people that you've interviewed are like… yeah, it's… I will say this out loud now that we've made it to the end of it, um, in many ways, touch wood, I've never been this apprehensive before a podcast in a long while. And yeah, you know, being interviewed, just because of how much The Astrology Hub means to me. Um, and to come and just, you know, like in many ways, like to your point, astrologers have spent decades and decades—like five, six decades—learning astrology and sharing their wisdom. It's like, this is just little old Amrit. But of course, Taurus rising will always be, you know, little old me. Self-worth stuff with the Taurus rising. Yeah. Yeah.
But, um, yeah, man. Uh, the last little piece I wanted to just add in there is human connection. There's, to your point, like having gone through some of these things… and if I could just leave a message for everybody else here at the close of the podcast, is there was a period in my life where whether I stayed or went, it didn't matter to me. It wasn't that I wanted to go—I was never there—but I was ambivalent to it. I was apathetic. Right. And there was a person that believed in me when I didn't believe in myself. And that, you know, the coach, the astrologer, touch wood, informs everything that I go… that I, you know, that you have praised in these closing remarks about what the Inspired Evolution does and, you know, the work that I'm here to do in the world, touch wood.
Um, so yeah, just a friendly reminder: human connection, and we're stepping into an Aquarian era. Human connection is the name of the game. We're not meant to be going through this alone. It's through connections like this that, you know, it's what makes life what it is. It's the joie de vivre, it's the spark. Yeah. Yeah, and we are not alone. We are not alone. We're all in this together. We're all in this together. Thank you so much for having me, Amanda. It is an absolute pleasure and an honor.
Amanda: Same, same. Oh, my goodness. Okay. Well, and thank all of you for being here, for being connected with us, for tuning in, for being curious, for asking the questions, for showing up in your own life and understanding yourself better and what you're here to contribute. And I'm just so grateful that we have this opportunity to share this space with you. So thank you for being here, and thank you for making astrology a part of your life, as always. And we will catch you on the next episode. Take care, everybody.