Judith Hill on medical astrology, herbal wisdom & how planets reveal the forces behind health
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15:09 — The modern health trends based on astrology
18:32 — Amanda’s personal story with medical astrology
22:39 — The Herbalism & Astrology Summit
26:02 — Astrological influences behind the vital force of the heart
31:04 — Notes on Osteoporosis
37:02 — Who is medical astrology perfect for
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Transcript:
00:00:00:00 – 00:00:09:15
Unknown
Well, hello everybody, and welcome to the Astrology Hub podcast. Today we have a very, very special guest and a very interesting topic.
00:00:09:15 – 00:00:28:03
Unknown
And this guest, when she comes on our show is one of the most popular, most watched, most requested. And that is of course, Judith Hill. Judith Hill is a medical astrologer and herbalist. She has been practicing astrology and herbalism for over 50 years.
00:00:28:03 – 00:00:46:24
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She has written 16 books and she has taught many, many courses, including three courses with astrology, herb workshops and courses. And so she is just an amazing, amazing human being. She has helped me and my love very personally
00:00:46:24 – 00:00:56:07
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through different medical, experiences and is a wealth of knowledge and a gift for all of us. So, Judith, thank you for being here today.
00:00:56:07 – 00:00:59:12
Unknown
I'm so happy you're back on the show. Well, thank you Amanda.
00:00:59:12 – 00:01:15:02
Unknown
My very favorite all time interviewer and, and school host. And I love, love it when we can talk. Me too. Thank you so much, Judith. All right, so let's talk about herbalism and medical astrology.
00:01:15:02 – 00:01:23:19
Unknown
How and where and when did they intersect? Has this been are they always been married, or is this something that developed over time?
00:01:23:24 – 00:01:29:08
Unknown
Tell us a little bit about the background between the two things. Herbalism
00:01:29:08 – 00:01:55:22
Unknown
and the use of cosmic influences. This is old as mankind. The ancients would always look for the moon, when to harvest, when to pick certain herbs, and when to give certain herbs. But it wasn't until about, the late first century, A.D. that specialists of trails he actually itemized.
00:01:55:22 – 00:02:22:24
Unknown
He was the first to put in writing the correspondences of herbs with planets, though these might have been far older, because we know that the Druids would pick vervain under very particular influences and how ceremonies around it. But we're talking the astrology we know today started to be correlated with herbs around the first century.
00:02:22:24 – 00:02:31:23
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Things. How did they originally map the correlations between certain planets and certain herbs?
00:02:31:23 – 00:02:36:10
Unknown
And why would there be correlations? Oh, that's a wonderful question.
00:02:36:10 – 00:03:04:00
Unknown
And in fact, just yesterday I finished writing up a revised system of planet correlations with herbs. Because the Renaissance systems are very confused, you can't really use them very well. So the correlations were made in this manner. Herbs have different therapeutic properties. Some herbs are demotion. They're very soft.
00:03:04:02 – 00:03:16:07
Unknown
They soften tissues and others are stimulating. They'll get your digestive juices going or they'll get your muscles or your circulation going like cayenne. You heat up,
00:03:16:07 – 00:03:22:05
Unknown
it's hot. Okay, so certain planets have the exact same
00:03:22:05 – 00:03:26:08
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therapeutic properties that influence the body.
00:03:26:08 – 00:03:26:24
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So let's take
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Mars. Mars heats up and dries the body and it throws poisons out. Mars is explosive.
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So Mars would be matched with Cayenne which is stimulating and hot. Mars would be matched with laxatives,
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but cathartic. Mars is a killer. So Mars is a warrior. So Mars is matched to antibiotic herbs like chaparral or, or any herb like tea tree oil that kills things you don't want. Garlic is a martian urn.
00:04:05:24 – 00:04:06:24
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so you get the
00:04:06:24 – 00:04:20:17
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herbs matched to the very various therapeutic properties of the planets, and there are many therapeutic properties of each herb.
00:04:20:19 – 00:05:06:15
Unknown
And herbs also serve different organs. They have organ affinities, such as, dandelion root is very famous for helping your liver, and so is milk thistle. So the liver is governed by Jupiter. So they would be some tavern, some herbalist would put them under Jupiter, but the old lists would throw everything on there, and they would even take herbs that for color, like a red, red was under Mars and they also would put them under these lists by mythological associations, herbs that would appear in myths by certain gods like Venus.
00:05:06:15 – 00:05:34:23
Unknown
So they put, you know, the Arab under Venus, and then they would put them on the lists by the season that they ruin and all or what they looked like. So the herbs or the lists were quite confused. And somebody looking at these lists to know what herb to pick for their problem. So I just fix that. And I actually have a course called Astrological Herbalism Decoded that I made in 2020 that goes through all this, how to really use it.
00:05:35:00 – 00:06:07:03
Unknown
But our, our summit is the most important thing coming up. Okay. Well, we will definitely be talking about that here soon. Judith, what do you say to people who hear something like that and think it sounds superstitious or less scientific than, like the pharmaceutical approach or the medical approach? They would think that because they don't understand what we're doing.
00:06:07:05 – 00:06:32:11
Unknown
And the difference is this. The medical doctor looks at the physical symptoms. So say the person has a heart issue and they say, oh, we're looking for plaque or we're looking for, leaky valves. They're trying to figure out what's wrong with the heart. The ancients did not know all about the anatomy of the heart and the vessels.
00:06:32:11 – 00:07:09:07
Unknown
They didn't know this. So they were looking at the forces behind the heart. You can't see. They were looking at the influences that created that heart to be beating too hard, or the influences that were creating the lazy heart. So behind chemistry is force. Chemistry is the body molecular chemical structure. Behind this is force. Various prana, various influences.
00:07:09:09 – 00:07:43:23
Unknown
They can become imbalanced. That's what the astrologer can see. So the natal chart and the transits true that natal chart, the current influences shedding the seeds in the garden. And also this is a type of a microscope that doctors do not help with. And we see it working all the time. So say you have two people with high blood pressure and the doctor wants to give them the exact same medicine.
00:07:44:00 – 00:08:11:19
Unknown
The astrological herbalist looks at the chart and says she's that this one's problem is caused by too much heat, too much Mars, and this one's problem is caused by too little heat to little Mars. So you can get a heart attack out of too low blood pressure or high blood pressure. Then you are, you know, the medical astrologers also studied anatomy in medicine.
00:08:11:19 – 00:08:38:19
Unknown
So, you know, okay, this person is having low blood pressure and now it's suddenly going really high because low pressure, low blood pressure can lead to high as all these things. So it's a person's problem is caused by cold, cold energy's. You treat them with warming herbs. If the person's problem is caused by heated energies, you give them cooling herbs.
00:08:38:21 – 00:09:11:08
Unknown
Very different approach to what appears to be the same problem. This is where astrology has quite a level of influence that medicine cannot look into. And the second level of influence is, of course, the transits. The doctors may just say, okay, it's a great time to have surgery today, and it's the eclipse. But, you know, they're ignoring 3000 years of empirical experience, that this can cause all kinds of things to go wrong.
00:09:11:10 – 00:09:37:06
Unknown
And or they might feel this is a good time to release the person from the hospital. And the astrologer can say, oh, no, they're going to have another, another, episode in just two days, I think. And sure enough, I've actually saved a woman's life this way. She was, she had very, very serious asthma, the kind that can kill you.
00:09:37:08 – 00:09:58:14
Unknown
And the doctors released her with a little spray bottle, and I could see she was going to have a massive attack that might kill her in about three days. I've warned her. And I said, keep your. What are they called, defibrillators or something? This little spray bottle. Healers. Healers? Yeah. If you're inhaler with you at all times, it's all I took.
00:09:58:16 – 00:10:22:00
Unknown
And so she shoot. Understood. But her spouse hid the inhaler. And on the third day, she had a massive attack. Exactly when the chart showed it. And she was able to get to it, find the inhaler and get it and save her life. And it's just this is one of many, many, many examples the astrologer can see into time.
00:10:22:02 – 00:10:55:12
Unknown
And we use time and herbalism. There are days you do not start a protocol where there are days that you shouldn't take any herbs at all. Let the body rest. There are days your problem might demand, an herbal or medical approach. I'm not against chemical medicines. It's just that so often they're not necessary. In lighter cases, you have perfectly good herbs that will be, trouble free in the body.
00:10:55:14 – 00:11:17:20
Unknown
That can do the same thing. You often need the chemical medicines when things are very an extremity, because herbs are often not as powerful. But before you get there, are you often don't need to get there. Well, you know, that's that's the approach here. But no, we we honor we honor all the significant discoveries of modern medicine.
00:11:17:22 – 00:11:38:16
Unknown
And we, Judith, when you said earlier it could be too much Mars, or it could be too little Mars, or the person could be too hot or too cold. What do you mean by that? Are you looking at their natal chart? Are you looking at the transits like, what do you mean too little Mars or too much Mars?
00:11:38:18 – 00:12:09:11
Unknown
This is works very, very similarly to traditional Chinese medicine or to innovated very similar concepts. The when you're looking at when you're talking about heat or cold, these are real things. Some people are hotter, they get flushed faces, they're hot all the time. And it will go with many symptoms. Other people have cold extremities. They're tense, their tissues getting harder.
00:12:09:13 – 00:12:33:21
Unknown
And you can get people who are very dry and people who collect water are very moist. And then there's two others there's which I learned from Matthew Wood. There's tents and there's relaxed. You're very relaxed people, very relaxed. Hey, bro. You know, chill. And then and then you have people who are extremely hyper intense. They're about to explode.
00:12:33:21 – 00:13:06:03
Unknown
They're they're like wound up like springs and, very tight muscles. They need to, you know, get all that energy out somehow. So you have these actual variations in the body. So now we have two humans. Two humans can be or may not, let's put it this way, were made out of the same stuff, but the energies shown in the natal chart are extremely different and similar to a watermelon and a sparrow.
00:13:06:05 – 00:13:34:01
Unknown
A sparrow is very different creature than a watermelon, you know? Or we can say a greyhound is a very different creature than a saint Bernard in humans are just like this. We have very big differences between our bodies, but we're all made out of the same stuff. And you can have, you know, a tiny little fast moving person or, you know, a great big, slow moving person is very strong.
00:13:34:03 – 00:13:58:12
Unknown
So the ancients specialized in studying the energetics of people, of planets and of Earth's, and their medicine was based on this, and it was the Western system of medicine until about 1666, and dragged on till 17,
00:13:58:12 – 00:14:24:20
Unknown
Hey there! I hope you're loving this episode. Now, I know the natural question is, does Judith do readings? And she no longer does because she's focused on her teaching. But there is an astrologer, a medical astrologer named Cameron Allen who is amazing. He has studied with Judith and many other practitioners, and he is actually offering an incredible four week program with a very special offer to the astrology community.
00:14:24:20 – 00:14:48:11
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So I wanted to make sure that you knew about this. It's called the Astrological Wellness Program, and it's a four week individualized journey designed to help you understand what wellness looks like, especially for you. Kamran blends astrology, herbalism, and somatic wisdom to create a plan that's truly unique to your body, your rhythm, and your charts.
00:14:48:11 – 00:15:10:03
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He is offering our Astrology Hub community $100 off this program, so you can sign up and learn more at Astrology hub.com/astro Wellness and make sure to use the code Astro Wellness at checkout to get your $100 off. Now, I hope that you will check that out, and in the meantime, enjoy the rest of the episode.
00:15:10:03 – 00:15:20:07
Unknown
Is our health better or worse overall? I mean, I think, I think the perception is that we have a longer life span.
00:15:20:09 – 00:15:46:07
Unknown
We like there's been so much improvement. Is that true? And and would you say that it would it a combination of the two. Would it be ideal that there are great things from the modern approach to medicine? And there are great things from the ancient approach to medicine, including astrology and herbalism. And we should and ideally would be using both.
00:15:46:09 – 00:16:12:03
Unknown
Yes. It all depends on what area you're looking at. If you look, there are some regions in the Balkans for example, or parts of Japan where people have had very healthy air and healthy diets, and their cultures are arranged such that they regularly live till 100 years old sometimes, and the Balkans 120 and still riding their horses.
00:16:12:05 – 00:16:43:03
Unknown
But if you look at that, England, you know, the cities like London or the average lifespan in Shakespeare's England was 21 years old for men. And for women, the diets were horrible, they were always constipated. And the cities, they had very poor sanitation. They were always getting plagues and tuberculosis. They had, no knowledge of germs, no knowledge of STDs.
00:16:43:05 – 00:17:15:13
Unknown
They were in trouble, these populations. And it was in these populations that germ theory arose and people started learning about antibiotics. And though they had them in other cultures way back, but not to this degree, started studying how to use medicines for pain. So if you got sick or you needed a surgery, you are in serious trouble because they didn't even have anesthesia and they would have to hold you down, put a sock in your mouth and do the surgery, know if that's what's good.
00:17:15:15 – 00:17:41:22
Unknown
And most people would. Many people would die from the surgery. 1 in 4 women until, even in the Old West, in America, here, 1 in 4 women would die of childbirth, immigrant women in America. Until the time of my mother, the average age was 40 women. So which is about what it is in some nations today for women.
00:17:42:02 – 00:18:23:22
Unknown
So we've had huge advances in sanitation, controlling germs, plagues, knowledge of the body, but we still have no knowledge in the medical profession of the forces behind health, of natal patterns of timing and herbalism, which can very effectively handle many, many problems as well as many chemical medicines without harming the body. The is still largely ignored, but you do see doctors prescribing tried and true and tested herbs like gingko, Saint John's wart.
00:18:23:24 – 00:19:01:24
Unknown
These have. There's a few that have made it in to the medical people do recognize them in some areas, but I know I've told this story on the podcast before, but it was just so profound. When you're talking about the forces behind something that you might be experiencing in your body. My love was going through something with his heart, with that, the atrial flutter experience and the we went to some of the best cardiologists and all of them focused in on the heart and were addressing the heart.
00:19:02:01 – 00:19:30:15
Unknown
But what Judith was able to do was correlate several different things that were happening in his body and behind what was happening in the heart. Like it was almost like they were all coinciding in the heart. But there were other weaknesses that needed to come into balance that only Judith could see. Looking at both his natal astrological chart and the transits.
00:19:30:17 – 00:20:07:08
Unknown
And that was the other thing is, he was having these Uranus transits that would trigger and and it was like clockwork when there would be an episode or when there would be, you know, when it would kick in. And so it was just incredible to experience what Judith is talking about because it it all sounds amazing. But then when you actually have that tangible experience of, wow, here we have some of the best doctors all using some of the best technology, the best modern technology that we have to look inside the body and see what's going on.
00:20:07:10 – 00:20:36:02
Unknown
But they cannot see all of these pieces, only a very skilled medical astrologer, Judith, was able to see those, the correlations that were happening and the forces behind. And when we were able to address it from all levels, it went away. And it's it hasn't been an issue. So this is this is an amazing I, I've gotten to live through an incredible testimony of exactly what you're talking about.
00:20:36:04 – 00:21:19:16
Unknown
And we have to we have to let the audience know that I always have a very detailed waiver signed. Yes. I'm not a licensed medical practitioner. I will work only under the auspices of doctors who are handling the case and with, signed waivers. I'm very, very careful not to give medical advice or opinions. I'm giving astrological information so as in all, up until 1700, they had a they had a list of etiologies or causes that was far greater than what we use today because they believed in supernatural causes of illness.
00:21:19:21 – 00:21:51:21
Unknown
They believe constipation was a big cause behind illness and so forth. But one of their major etiologies was astrology. So in the case of Amanda's love, he was having some very significant a stroke causation. And I could identify that for the doctors to look at and they could get help. And so and also, you know, I, I'm working full time with my school right now, so, yeah, I see a lot of requests.
00:21:51:22 – 00:22:13:21
Unknown
I, I don't I know I always hesitate to tell that story because I know it's like, okay, that everybody's going to want a reading the Judith. But the good thing is, is that Judith is training very skilled professionals who can do that work, because Judith has dedicated her time entirely now to teaching, which I'm so grateful for, because obviously we need more of this information.
00:22:13:21 – 00:22:39:19
Unknown
We need more people trained and skilled to be able to look at the charts and and at least compliment what's happening on the medical side of any sort of issue. Right? At least give insights into timing. At least give give verbal recommendations that can accompany things safely to what you may or may not be doing with your doctor.
00:22:39:21 – 00:23:04:03
Unknown
And so let's talk a little bit about that, Judith, because one opportunity you all will have if you're interested in this, if you're interested in studying this and maybe going in this, pursuing this kind of a path is I know that you're having a summit here soon. The herbalism and Astrology Summit, and you're going to be hosting some of the the best professionals in the field.
00:23:04:08 – 00:23:15:11
Unknown
So tell us a little bit about the summit and who it's great for. And, and the different kinds of topics that will be covered. Yes. It's the Herbalism and Medical Astrology Summit
00:23:15:11 – 00:23:18:08
Unknown
on November 9th and 10th,
00:23:18:08 – 00:23:22:01
Unknown
you can reach it on the link on the screen or in the description.
00:23:22:07 – 00:23:54:02
Unknown
And this is a summit that I've actually had going for many, many years. I used to call it the Renaissance medicine Conference, and it was a boots on ground conference. But now it's a zoom conference and it's being co-produced with my school's wonderful director, Melissa Beam. And we have this year eight of the world's best herbalists who also speak on cosmic and astrological inclusion.
00:23:54:02 – 00:24:26:10
Unknown
So every single talk will be on some topic of medical astrology or cosmic celestial influence and herbalism. We have, two of the best, one of the best South American herbalists in the world will have, one of the best Native American, Mex and Mexican herbalists in the world. She's a current Deanna. We're going to have a man who runs an herbal clinic in England, and he's a practicing medical astrologer.
00:24:26:12 – 00:24:53:18
Unknown
We're we're going to have the great sage, a Pathan who's an herbalist who also teaches a course in astrological herbalism. I will talk. I have an at the Academy for Astrological Medicine, where we also teach a whole program on astrological herbalism. We're going to have a see, Zoe Gong, a TCM chef out of China. She may be in Taiwan.
00:24:53:18 – 00:25:23:10
Unknown
I always forget. And she's going to show how the foods will correlate with the seasons or something of that nature. Every talk is fantastic. Now, I'm probably leaving out a few people. So there's eight, eight people. Oh, Nydia, we have a woman from India who will be speaking also on the confluence of herbalism and cosmic influences. And I'm going to get a give a significant talk called Strong heart, weak heart.
00:25:23:12 – 00:25:48:08
Unknown
Wow. You can look at a chart and see how strong and weak the vital force is, because it resides in the heart, the vital force, and which are all of ancient medicine except. But our our current medical model doesn't seem to know about this. It's the force that vitalize is your whole body. So strong vital force, weak vital force.
00:25:48:10 – 00:26:15:19
Unknown
And its effect on heart issues, heart issues, and on the different herbal paths that one would take. I'm going to try to keep this talk simple. So everybody can understand it. Wow. Can you give us just a little taste like what are some of the astrological influences behind the vital force of the heart? Just like a little a little taste, yes.
00:26:15:19 – 00:26:41:05
Unknown
Oh, yes. Some people are born with a very strong, vital force, and they can be chiropractors. They have enormous surplus and vital force. Or what? The great medical astrologer, doctor Davidson said of some sagittarians too much life. Well. I love that too much. Like you said that for Mars and Sagittarius, I just always get a kick out of that because it's so true.
00:26:41:11 – 00:27:12:06
Unknown
Yes. And some people are born with too little vital force, and they're always fatigued or tired or frail who have. And now you're given so much vital force and you can expand it, or you can cherish it and you can pull more in. Get your tank higher for those weaklings. Yeah. So the fire signs, particularly Aries and Leo, are given often a surplus of vital force.
00:27:12:08 – 00:27:46:23
Unknown
And now you're talking about sunshine. Yes. Okay. Yes. Sunshine and certain houses are better too. Like, the house is very good for the sun. The fifth house and the 10th house. The, Now, Taurus and Scorpio are also known to have a very good accumulative, force. They they store vital force very well. Scorpio. Each sign has a different type, but Taurus is the great accumulator, and they will live a very long time if they don't, you know, blow it off and they usually don't.
00:27:47:00 – 00:28:16:17
Unknown
And they usually keep kind of, calm and steady people. So and whereas certain signs, are much, much weaker and the ascendant signs too and they like Piscean and Cancerians need to be very careful of too much harsh, harsh sun and need to not, beware of not to overdo it, but to how to how to diffuse from the day and bring their vital force back and keep it up.
00:28:16:22 – 00:28:37:06
Unknown
Not like people. They get drained by other people. So Pisces is the most diffusive sign. So it's drained. So these are some some little tips. And but I'm going to be focusing a lot on different heart diseases and how it shows up astrologically. So we're going to have very simple talks and very one, 1 or 2 advanced talks.
00:28:37:10 – 00:29:07:02
Unknown
Oh Adriana. Ionic. Wonderful. Very, very well known, person runs on Mundi Herbals. She will be speaking on how the transit of Saturn and Aries, and I believe Pisces two can be remediated with herbs. Whoa. But a wonderful talk. Yes. Very relevant coming up for all of us next year. Yes, yes, yes. Well, have been living through this and we're going to live through it again because Saturn is coming back to Aries and it's in Pisces now.
00:29:07:07 – 00:29:34:12
Unknown
So that's a talk to look forward to. She is one of the greatest herbalists in the world now. We're so lucky to have her on our program. I mean, Judith, we're lucky to have all of you really I mean, in in the fact that you are all so generously and and gifted at teaching because, again, this is the kind of knowledge and wisdom that can easily get lost, especially at this period of time.
00:29:34:14 – 00:29:54:20
Unknown
And it just feels so important as, as if as we enter into a whole new age to to find those golden threads that we want to weave through into a new way of being on the planet. And this is one of those to me, it's like, this is something that we do not want to lose, that there's way too much wisdom here.
00:29:54:20 – 00:30:32:15
Unknown
There's way too much intelligence and too much, and there's the connection with nature itself and our connection, our interconnectivity with both nature here on this earth, but then also the nature of the cosmos itself. Just as we're realizing more and more that we are actually interconnected, that we do not do not stand separate from from these things, it's it just natural to to understand how to use the wisdom and intelligence of nature to better support our health, to better support our vitality.
00:30:32:17 – 00:30:53:09
Unknown
And if the information is there, why wouldn't we? And especially, like you said, it's these are the things that are much more gentle and there aren't as many risks and complications that that can happen. And, and I see so many times that it's like the go to is to the, the really extreme things like, like like surgery, for example.
00:30:53:09 – 00:31:24:02
Unknown
I know sometimes we need it and sometimes maybe we don't. And wouldn't it be nice to exhaust those options that we might have that we don't know we have before we go there. Right. Well, yeah. And another great example is we don't need to get osteoporosis unless you have a really strong genetic issue with it. Your chart will actually show if you're prone to it and it will show times, it's likely that you're you're likely to dump your calcium out of your bones.
00:31:24:04 – 00:31:46:09
Unknown
And there are wonderful herbs to augment the calcium. And I know this is true because I've been taking them every day for, oh, 30 years. And I just had an X-ray and I have the spine of a 30 year old. What? Yeah. What can you tell us? But some of these herbs are, you know, and I'm Harry, slightly built.
00:31:46:09 – 00:32:02:14
Unknown
I'm usually the type that should be. And I haven't lost any height at all. And the. Well, there's, there's, definite, herbs and oats. Straw can be an herb you make unless you're allergic to it. You know, you can make the tea or straw, too. You have to know how. And you can do that one every day.
00:32:02:14 – 00:32:28:13
Unknown
The the, Irish Railroad crews that built the railroads across America to meet the Chinese coming from the other end. That's how the railroads were built. They were fed on. Oh, water, just sulfates and water to keep their strength. And you have nettles, you have alfalfa and alfalfa can't be taken by everybody or every day, but it's grows 20ft in the ground.
00:32:28:18 – 00:32:55:03
Unknown
Serves all these big boned animals. These grasses. Know what to do. They're intelligent. They're said, are herbs, alive and intelligent, and they have been evolving for millions of years. They have a little trade going when these big giant herd animals, you eat us and you defecate out our seeds all over the place and and so they're having a little trade going on.
00:32:55:05 – 00:33:26:08
Unknown
And so horses and big huge balls, they're eating grass. And so, there's, there's red clover, there's parsley, there's mullein. So every night I make myself a mixture. I can do your straw. You can do every day harmlessly. And I drink about four glasses a day. And I have not had the slightest problem with, osteoporosis and, very, very little arthritis, even though it runs in the family.
00:33:26:10 – 00:33:49:01
Unknown
This is amazing. I literally yesterday I watched a video of one of these, I guess I would call her a fitness influencer. She's in her, like, 50s, and she was talking about how, you know, she's always been a very healthy person. And so she was shocked when she went and had a Dexa scan and found that she had the precursor to osteoporosis.
00:33:49:01 – 00:34:13:12
Unknown
What? Osteo osteopenia. Is that right? Yeah. So she, she had that and she was shocked because she, she lifts weights and she's very conscious of her diet. And she is very active and she's doing all these things right. So she started wearing a weighted vest thinking that it would help with the bone density. Well, anyways, I guess they're coming out with some studies that are showing that, like it mildly like it maybe does, but maybe doesn't.
00:34:13:12 – 00:34:43:19
Unknown
So it's inconclusive. But here she is, you know, every single day walking with his weighted vest, thinking that this is going to help her bones. Well, and there could be an easier way. I mean, there could be an easier way just to to ingest herbs that are designed to help grow health and maintain healthy bone structure. Yes. If you if you look at certain, certain cultures, they do not have all the osteoporosis and knees and hip.
00:34:43:24 – 00:35:08:14
Unknown
Almost every person I know at a certain age has been getting a knee or hip replacement. Yes, yes, this was unheard of. It means was out that we'd have a nation of cripples. People who who were who wouldn't be able to walk by the time they were 60, even 50 right now, just replace the part. But this was unheard of in the past.
00:35:08:16 – 00:35:31:18
Unknown
You know, we're not getting about a at least a third to a half of the minerals our grandparents did from the soils. But I know other herbalists who are older than me, who have no sign of it, who have one had a hip exam and the same thing, the hips of a young person, the bones and, you know, herbalist do this.
00:35:31:18 – 00:35:53:15
Unknown
We know that. So I like to and, you know, get people interested. Even the men are getting osteoporosis now. Okay. That alone I mean, I hope that's going to be covered at the summer summit on some level. Is someone going to be at least covering that a little bit? I'll have to mention it. I'll put a note down really because it's, it's I mean, there's so many big issues, right?
00:35:53:15 – 00:36:15:11
Unknown
I mean, at this point, our health as a nation, at least in the United States, and I know many other countries, it's it's a crisis point. And so many people are suffering from so many different things. And to just be bringing this awareness, in ways that we can do, that are safe and effective, I'll, I'll give you a tip.
00:36:15:13 – 00:36:48:03
Unknown
If you're born with Saturn conjunct your South Node, or especially if it's in, Cancer or Libra, but any Aries but or you have the transit South Node crossing over your natal Saturn. This is a potential time of dumping calcium or dentin out of your teeth. But if you're born with that, you're more likely to be a little prone to osteoporosis.
00:36:48:03 – 00:37:21:24
Unknown
So you you get on it. You're not the chart isn't, isn't, set in stone. We have the ability to adjust it. Just like if you're born with bad eyes, you wear glasses with. Oh, Judith. Who is this? Is. Yes. I can see a lot of people being interested both in and joining you for this summit on November 9th and 10th, maybe looking into your school, if they're wanting to go deeper, who are the perfect candidates as far as your students?
00:37:22:02 – 00:37:54:08
Unknown
Who are the perfect? Well, what kind of background, what kind of training, what kind of interest? Or the study of medical astrology astrologers who know their way around a chart. You don't have to be advanced because medical astrology is very mechanical. You're working with energies. It's the way astrology was originally done. There was, you know, medical astrology was one of the very earliest, earliest uses of astrology.
00:37:54:14 – 00:38:21:08
Unknown
So just a basic knowledge of your chart, your houses, your planets, your science, and an interest in studying the medical side of it. It's very good for helping clients get pregnant. I've had huge success with that. There are six branches of medical astrology. We teach them off at the Academy for Astrological Medicine. And you know, there's medical horary medical.
00:38:21:08 – 00:38:42:15
Unknown
Medical elections are great. Learning to time what when to do a surgery is a wonderful thing to know. Look at your dentist. I don't have a root canal. It does make a difference. You know, I have those days. Or just everything goes wrong. Yes, you know, and where everything goes, right? Yes. I, I haven't used to set surgery dates all the time.
00:38:42:15 – 00:39:05:18
Unknown
I'm too busy now. But I know who does. And just last, last year was I set a surgery date for a woman who had, I needed a knee transplant. She was very, very obese, and I found a perfect day. It was just great. And that she didn't tell the doctors about this, but they told her that they had never at the knee clinic.
00:39:05:18 – 00:39:30:20
Unknown
This was an all knee clinic. Never had seen somebody heal so quickly and painlessly. I have had an opposite experience with her. I advised the man setting the surgery for the wife to not use that day at all, was very, very, very bad day. He did not tell the wife. She did not was not then influenced psychologically.
00:39:30:22 – 00:39:54:14
Unknown
And they gave her the wrong medicine. And she died. And it was a simple in-office knee surgery. Oh, no. No, these things happen. And you watch them for years, decades. And however it works, we don't know. It doesn't mean it doesn't work because it doesn't work when we all experience this. So people who want to learn electional astrology, we've got courses.
00:39:54:16 – 00:40:28:23
Unknown
And of course we have natal and transit. And there's also medical influences on mental health. We have a wonderful book on this, going back to 140 A.D. by Ptolemy, a wonderful booklet on mental health, and his tetra Bible, you know, and it was remarkably advanced. And, but if people want to learn astrological herbalism or how astrology and herbs blend, then we have this amazing summit on November 9th and 10th.
00:40:29:00 – 00:40:58:09
Unknown
And this is like the third time you've done the summit. How many years have you been doing it online? I put on or online? It's the second herbal, herbal and see that herbalism and medical astrology. Yes. Yes. Herbalism and medical astrology summit. It's number two. But the Renaissance medicine conferences go back to 2013. Sun ground and they same exact thing and sage a pope.
00:40:58:13 – 00:41:19:01
Unknown
Who will be speaking has been at every single one because he's so popular. We always have to have him back. Amazing. Okay, Judith, this has been such a pleasure. I hope you all got some some golden nuggets from it. And if you do want to check out the summit, we're going to put the link on the screen.
00:41:19:01 – 00:41:41:23
Unknown
We're going to put it in the description. Actually I think I know a link you can go to, you can go to Astrology hub.com/summit and you let's see. Yeah that'll that'll direct you to the summit. So astrology I've got com slash summit. They've also invited me to give a bonus talk. So Melissa is going to be interviewing me.
00:41:42:00 – 00:42:08:18
Unknown
We're going to be talking about the Impact Medical astrology has had on my life personally, which I told you one story, but there's been so many. And we're also going to be talking. You're also going to have an opportunity to get a free chapter from my upcoming book, life by the stars, which is also all about the influence of living a life that is considering the cosmic influences on us and what that can actually do for you.
00:42:08:18 – 00:42:34:06
Unknown
How could that can benefit your life? So these things are all coming up and you're all invited. Anything else Judith you want to share before we close out? Well, I, I just been so thrilled to be able to share nuggets because we opened the nuggets and we want to educate and and, yeah, I like people to put on their bibs and get their knives and forks out because this is one juicy, delicious subject.
00:42:34:08 – 00:42:59:11
Unknown
Yeah, very worthwhile for anyone. It is. And it's just again, it's it's very timely. And I'm just so grateful that there are those of you who are teaching and sharing this knowledge because we need it. My God. So thank you. I mean, even just what you told me about osteoporosis, because I walked away from that video going, oh, shoot, because I got my little weighted vest and I'm walking with my weighted vest thinking I'm helping my bones.
00:42:59:11 – 00:43:24:20
Unknown
And I went, oh no, that's a bummer. And just knowing that there are some herbal supplements or, you know, herbal things I can do to support is really great to know. Yes, it is true. There's wonderful, wonderful. There's also a very good book by, books on, herbs for women, for osteoporosis by Susan Weed.
00:43:24:23 – 00:43:45:14
Unknown
Sue. Susan. She's been around a very long time. Weed eater. Okay. Can't remember the name of the book, but that's how I got started. I saw her lecture many. And then I made one of her books and. Onward. Yes, yes, all this, this, all of this interests and passion that you have followed for so many decades.
00:43:45:14 – 00:44:03:06
Unknown
And now we get to benefit from that. So thank you, Judith. Thank you. Thank you, everybody, for being here. Thank you for tuning in. And thank you for being interested. Thank you for supporting this channel. If you haven't yet, subscribe, please take a minute to do that right now. That enables our our podcast to get out to a lot more people.
00:44:03:11 – 00:44:18:01
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So I really appreciate if you just take a moment to hit that subscribe button. And otherwise, we'll look forward to catching up with you on the next episode. Thank you, as always, for making astrology a part of your life. We'll catch you soon. Bye bye.