Practical Astrology for Your Everyday Life w/astrologer Rick Levine

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Amanda Walsh: [00:00:00] Have you ever walked away from a podcast or book filled with lofty spiritual and astrological insights, completely inspired by the concepts, but totally at a loss for how to apply them in real life? If you answered yes, you are in for a treat today. Hey there, Astrology Hub family, it’s Amanda here, welcoming you back to our Astrology Hub podcast.

Today, we’re diving into how to seamlessly integrate those big personal insights we get lit up by in our astrological and spiritual studies, how to implement them into the nitty gritty of our daily lives. And who better to navigate these waters with us than the legendary master astrologer Rick Levine.

Rick is no stranger to Astrology Hub, and if you’ve been with us for a while, you definitely know and love Rick as much as I do. He’s been a literal lighthouse for our community. Brilliantly marrying the wisdom of the stars, [00:01:00] practical steps we can all take. Before we dive in, you probably already know this, but we’ve recently stepped into what astrologers refer to as the Eclipse Portal.

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Welcome to the Astrology Hub podcast. I’m Amanda Poole Walsh, founder of Astrology Hub, and your host for our [00:03:00] flagship show. We explore the many ways astrology can support you and your relationships, career, health, and personal growth. Thanks for tuning in. Have you ever walked away from a podcast or book filled with lofty spiritual and astrological insights, completely inspired by the concepts, but totally at a loss with how to apply them in your real life?

If you answered yes to this, you are in for a treat today. Hey there, Astrology Hub family. It’s Amanda here welcoming you back to the Astrology Hub podcast. Today, we’re diving into how to seamlessly integrate those big personal insights we get lit up by in our astrological and spiritual studies. into the nitty gritty of our daily lives and who better to navigate these waters with us than the legendary master astrologer Rick Levine.

Rick is no stranger to Astrology Hub, and if you’ve been with us for a while, you [00:04:00] definitely know and love Rick as much as I do. He’s been a literal lighthouse for our community, Brilliantly marrying the wisdom of the stars, practical steps we can all take. Before we dive in, you probably already know this, but we’ve recently stepped into what astrologers refer to as the eclipse portal, a six week period of profound change and opportunity.

And this year, the portal’s energy is so potent that we felt called to create a free eclipse experience for all of you. Kicks off with its first panel on March 22nd, and you not want to, you don’t want to miss this one. This experience is designed to help you anchor in the energies of the upcoming eclipses in Libra and Aries.

We’re talking about claiming your sacred yes, stepping into your role as the hero of your own story, and leading with purpose. And the best part? You will have a path paved with resources tailored to support you throughout this whole journey. whole portal time period. We’ve [00:05:00] got panels with top astrologers, including Rick, to offer you insights and calming insights in the chaos, special meditations time with the eclipses to maximize their energetic gifts and community events designed to help you let go of the old so you can welcome in the new.

You can join us for free by heading over to astrologyhub. com slash eclipse. Clips 2024, we’ll drop that link in the show notes as well. Now let’s welcome Rick Levine to the show for an enlightening conversation. On bridging the spiritual with the everyday Rick, welcome back. I’m so happy that you’re here.

Rick Levine: Well, I’m so happy to be here, uh, also, although it’s strange now seeing you online, seeing is how we were actually in physical presence at the conscious life expo. in Los Angeles just a couple of weeks ago, but nice to be here.

Amanda Walsh: Always my preference to be with you who in our community in person, but I’m also really glad that we can connect this way as well.

So yeah, Rick, today’s topic is really important. I think a [00:06:00] lot of astrology lovers, people who are, who are committed to their spiritual path, they struggle with this because we get inspired. There’s all these amazing ideas. But then actually applying them in our daily life, like actually making them real and using them to live a better life, that can be where the tricky part comes in.

Rick Levine: As I know you probably know, I end every thing that I do online, all my podcasts and, and YouTube stuff with the same line. And the line is, think cosmically, act locally. And the reason for that. Is that it’s important to think cosmically. It means reaching out beyond ourselves, expanding our awareness. Even being spiritual, we’ll come back to that in just a moment.

It does no good at all to be as cosmic as one could possibly be unless one [00:07:00] applies it locally. Think cosmically, act locally. It has to be put into effect or into, into manifestation. in our everyday life. Otherwise, it’s just a waste of energy. I

Amanda Walsh: couldn’t agree more. Do you see that, okay, so when you say think, uh, think cosmically, act locally, let’s start here.

Do you think that thinking cosmically actually helps us live locally? Like, are there aspects of studying astrology that actually help us Do things in a better way in our lives, like where we’re at.

Rick Levine: I believe that in theory, thinking cosmically should have immediate impact locally. But in practice, I’ve met too many people who spin those cosmic wheels of awareness and yet live lives that are, [00:08:00] in my perception, quite lacking in their sense of spirituality.

And of course, this is going to require us to have a short discussion on what the heck is spirituality.

Amanda Walsh: Well, why don’t we start there and then I’d love to also hear your thoughts on where you think those traps are. Like, you know, when you, when you witness or observe people who, you know, maybe have all the astrological wisdom or all the spiritual wisdom in the world, but they’re not applying in their life.

But let’s go first to that definition of what you mean by spiritually.

Rick Levine: Okay. So first of all, spirituality and religion are two totally separate things. They may have some crossover. But like thinking cosmically and acting locally, one doesn’t necessarily imply the other. One can be religious without being spiritual, and one can be spiritual without being religious.[00:09:00]

Remember, the word religion is a word. comes from a Latin word, religare, which is a verb which is to tie or to bind. Religion is very simply that which ties us or binds us to our local tribe or community. You know, when the Romans conquered new lands, they didn’t care if you kept your local religion. They just wanted it in writing, which is why so many religions were codified during that period of time.

They wanted to know what the rules were you were following. And they also wanted you to accept the emperor, you know, the Roman emperor as a God also, which was a problem for some religions. But religion has nothing to do with spirituality. As Ram Dass used to say, following the Ten Commandments doesn’t make you spiritual.

However, if you stumble [00:10:00] upon the spiritual path, which we’ll talk about in just a moment, and you follow the Ten Commandments, you have a better chance of going somewhere along that path. You know, whereas if you You know, done things like, you know, killed a few people along the way and didn’t honor your parent, whatever the, you know, it’s like, it’s maybe harder to find a spiritual path in a way religion sets us up more for the potential of finding spirituality.

But, but spirituality really, it, it, the word spirit is very important because spirit actually means non physical. You know, when you think of alcohol, which used to be called spirits, it’s because it evaporates so much quicker than water and it disappears. It becomes invisible. We talk to spirits, they don’t have physical form.

And so spirituality is really, [00:11:00] um, a, a blanket word that can mean very different things to different people, but it really has to do with transcending the physical.

Amanda Walsh: Yeah, I love that, thank you. So, well, and also, I mean, would you say by definition, true or untrue, that, because you, you define spirituality as non physical.

And so much of what we’re reading or seeking to understand through astrology is a non physical or perhaps you would say it’s physical, right, like sort of in the middle.

Rick Levine: Okay. So here’s the importance of astrology and here’s the importance of integrating astrology into our real lives. Why thinking cosmically is not enough because when we’re thinking about astrology, often we’re just.

You know, going out this way. And, um, I remember at being at a conference once Carolyn Miss, Carolyn Mace was [00:12:00] talking and she was, you know, she’s the, the medical intuitive who’s written a number of books on chakras and on healing the, you know, uh, anyhow, she was like pointing her finger into the audience.

And she was saying, you have no right to go out into the cosmos until you take care of your own stuff. There are so many people who are, what’s the word? Um, Oh, I, I used to know someone, I can’t remember who this was who called it premature enlightenment. You know, people who, who have this whole kind of, um, it’s, it’s, it’s almost like a bypassing of the way to get there.

But somehow they declare themselves. spiritual or enlightened or, or a light worker or, uh, you know, or being, and I’m not dissing any of those things. I’m just saying that, that one of the important things about astrology Is that it’s not [00:13:00] just metaphysical, and it’s not just physical, it’s kind of like the corpus callosum that connects the two sides of the brain, it’s, it’s, it’s a discipline that we, that can be used to To connect the metaphysical and the physical, and that’s why it’s so threatening to our culture, which is built upon the illusion that the three dimensional world is real and everything else is not.

Amanda Walsh: I love what you just said about that it’s a, it, it, when applied in our daily life, it can be a discipline that helps us connect the metaphysical and the physical. Yes. That’s key. It’s a, it can create a discipline because one of the things I’ve recognized, especially in the inner circle where we’re working with the lunar cycle month after month after month, it provides, [00:14:00] it provides a structure.

in which being disciplined can be, I’m not saying always is, more streamlined. Because you actually can use it to focus your energy, your intention, your awareness. On different areas of your spiritual life at different times, depending on where the astrological energies are. And so I love that you bring in that word discipline because I, I mean, I think that’s, that’s, that’s what Carolyn Mason and even your think cosmically act locally is speaking to.

It’s that there is no escaping out. There is no just magic pill or magic wand that there actually is a requirement of action and discipline in order for those cosmos to actually help you in your everyday life.

Rick Levine: And I think the word discipline is also, as you know, I’m, I’m, I’m kind of a geeky etymologist [00:15:00] and, and even the word discipline, we think of it more as a Saturnian, uh, rules, regimen, you know, kind of a thing that we follow.

Um, but the real word discipline actually comes from a student of, or a follower of, you know, and, and so, you know, Christ’s, you know, um, you know, disciples were basically pupils and that’s what a discipline really is, is being. Um, being aware that there’s something to learn. I had a philosophy professor some Jesus.

Oh, my God. Fifth, more than 50 years ago that I still can see him. And I remember him kind of saying his basic concept or philosophy Was that the search creates the reality. As long as you’re asking questions, you’re building a construct of reality [00:16:00] around the questions that you ask. When you stop asking questions.

You stop creating reality and we all have friends that we’ve lost, um, to Scientology, to, to Buddhist chanting, Nam myoho Buddhism, um, uh, to, to Jesus, to quantum physics, to something that was, that’s it. I got it. They stop asking questions and they become like just a bore to be with because there’s no one home anymore.

And so, for me, astrology, as an ongoing discipline, teaches us students, us pupils, we disciples, teaches us disciples, is that right? Whatever. Basically, that as we pay attention to it and as it unfolds, It is part of our spiritual path and it increases our awareness, which the Buddhists would suggest. [00:17:00] The only thing that we can change in our lives is our awareness.

And when we change our awareness, then we change the possible choices that we have. And this comes to the point now of why do we do astrology and what does it have to offer when we’re trying to infuse Our higher principles of compassion, of love, of the belief of something that goes beyond the illusion of the Rick Levine game or the Amanda Pua Walsh game, which are egocentric things that are involved in our survival.

When we step out of that realm, astrology has something very important to tell us. Because it allows us to increase our awareness of our insides relationship to the outside. Remember, the Emerald Tablets do not say that we are this way because there is an eclipse. It says that what’s, it’s not as above so below, that’s only the beginning of it.[00:18:00]

The rest of that statement is the inside and the outside are one and the same, and that the illusion of living this life in the Rick Levine game is the illusion that there is an inside and outside and it’s separate. Oh, and look, sometimes they’re actually even humming with each other. That’s astrology, but that’s an illusion too.

They’re not humming with each other. They are one and the same. That’s spirituality. Or at least that’s what drives my spirituality. And then of course, the question becomes, how do we take that cosmic idea? They remember, I know I’ve said this before on earlier cosmic connections. The word cosmic comes from the word Cosmo or Cosm, which is Greek for order and beauty to the Greeks order was beautiful.

And the word cosmetic actually has the same derivation as the word [00:19:00] cosmology. Because there’s something beautiful about the natural order in the West. We’ve come kind of bent out of shape, twisted. So we think a cosmetic covers up ugliness, whereas that’s not what the meaning was cosmetic was something that brought out the natural beauty, the natural beauty in the natural order.

You know, it’s been said that, you know, that we, there’s a, there’s a saying, you may know, and I think it comes from course in miracles. You know, that we are not physical beings with a soul, where a soul having a physical human experience. And I read an interesting twist on that recently. Whereas spirit doesn’t exist within us.

We exist within spirit. You see the difference in the platonic understanding. And I know I’ve talked about this in my fundamentals course that’s here on astrology hub, but that, that soul is really spirit encapsulated in a body. We [00:20:00] have a soul. I have a soul, but I can only perceive my physical part of my body.

But there is something that is not perceptible, but it’s not separate from my body. Now, when that soul is not in a body, as it ascends to the heavens, to the cosmos, out there, in here, but outside of my body, or away from my body, That spirit spirit is the young upward ascending the, uh, the masculine, um, and, and yin, the soul, the internal feminine.

So really the question is in this whole thing is how do I become more spiritual? It’s really about how do I transcend my physicality and move into the world of meta or invisible metaphysics. But I would say that. There’s always two sides, and we also have to be aware of the fact that we are in bodies.

We do have a soul. We do, um, have [00:21:00] physical being, and if I just become spiritual without having any sense of my ego or what it is that the soul is expressing itself through, I won’t pay rent, I won’t eat, and I’ll be spirit in a matter of days, weeks, months, I’ll be gone. And so there’s this balancing thing, um, so it’s not just about being spiritual, it’s about how do we work that edge between the physical and the metaphysical that doesn’t believe that our physicalness is what’s real and important.

But is always pushing our awareness into these metaphysical, non physical, invisible, beyond the Rick Levine or Amanda Poole or Walsh game, so that we can act in our daily lives in ways that include that the universe doesn’t exist from my point of view. My universe seems to.

Amanda Walsh: You have said [00:22:00] so many amazing things already.

You mentioned that there are qualities, qualities, higher qualities in the universe. Yes. And that when we ask the questions that our reality is created based on the questions we’re asking. How do you So how do you see the planets, the zodiacal archetypes playing into us being able to ask higher level questions?

Rick Levine: Great question. Great question. Yeah. Do you know what a psychic medium is?

Amanda Walsh: Yeah.

Rick Levine: Yeah. To me, planets are in psychic mediums. They’re, they’re, they’re, they’re halfway points. A medium is just something in between. You know, you go to a psychic medium. To basically communicate with, with disincarnate spirit because you can’t, or I can’t, but some people are attuned to those more subtle vibrations.

We go to the [00:23:00] planets as intermediaries to communicate with the absolute, whatever that is, whatever you want to call it, God, it’s okay with me. You know, call it entropy, call it, uh, you know, the quantum field. I don’t, I don’t care what you label it. That’s not important. But to me, the planets are where the meta becomes physical.

It’s where the invisible becomes visible. It’s the halfway point between the what appears to be non existence. I mean, one of the things that’s driven my study in astrology since I first became curious, curious about it as a teenager, the question, which I wasn’t able to formulate there, but I did by my early twenties.

And my underlying question is, How does, how does nothingness, how does invisibleness, how does metaphysicalness create the constellation of your life, your, [00:24:00] my life, anyone’s life, the things that you own, your children, your parents, the people that have come in and out your books, your personal possessions, your memories, the patterns you weave in the real world that all came from nothing.

And yet it seems to be in harmonic resonance. With what we might see in a chart. How does that happen? What is that mechanism? Cause something is going on. It’s not just random arbitrary because if it was, we wouldn’t be able to see these patterns. And so, you know, I think that that really, I think that the planets in some way become observable cycles and like everything in the universe, if we don’t see it, we don’t know it exists.

We can’t use that as part of our reasoning to make choices. You know, we didn’t know that Uranus, Pluto and Neptune existed until we developed technology that allowed us to see more of the [00:25:00] invisible and make it visible. And we know we can follow the mechanism of like cycles like Saturn aligning with Pluto.

You know, being the historic turning points for at least 22 or 2300 years of history, we can see these patterns, but until we saw Pluto, we, they were invisible. And so as we make the invisible more visible. It basically gives us more choices because our view of the universe changes. And if we don’t see it, we can’t choose it or we can’t choose to avoid it.

Amanda Walsh: It’s so good. Okay. So I’m, I’m also curious. You have a. You do your own, like, monthly forecast and your, your daily, like, cosmic quickies and things like that. You’ve, you’ve done a monthly forecast at Astrology Hub for years. We, we did it.

Rick Levine: How

Amanda Walsh: do you think the tool or technique of forecasting [00:26:00] enables a higher level of spiritual integration into daily life or not?

And,

Rick Levine: and, and, and I’m not a stranger to this question. My now, uh, uh, dis incarnated, dis incarnated spirit, uh, Jeff Jer and I co-authored eight years of mass market books, Barnes and Noble, published about your y the astrology of your year ahead. I wrote. For over 20 years, a daily column that was on AOL and Huffington Post and MySpace and Google.

And I mean, it was all over the place. And every day when I wrote that column, I, uh, considered something. That I have to say, and this is a shout out to Gail, you know, who I know that you know, who has been, um, you know, an astrology partner in crime for decades, um, because Gail would read, as my editor, would read what I wrote, and she would say, I think that what you’re saying is true, but, [00:27:00] but what can someone do with this?

What does this mean? What use is this if we’re not giving someone some way to bring it into their life?

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Okay, so what I’m hearing, there’s several things here, Rick. We have, the search creates your reality, and by asking the questions and being available to the answers, there is a richer dynamic in our reality, or

Rick Levine: Even when those answers sometimes, Conflict with the basic fundamental beliefs of what we learned from our parents, our [00:29:00] culture, our synagogue, our church, our mosque, our government.

Yeah, exactly.

Amanda Walsh: Okay. Then we have that when we are true to our own spirits, that we are more capable of enriching the lives around us. And astrology enables a deeper level. For some of which to know your own spirit, to know. And

Rick Levine: again, I would agree with that completely, except I would take as, as the editor, I would take out our own spirit.

We have our own soul, that spirit encapsulated in my body, but we don’t have our own spirit. There is spirit. Remember we spirit does not live in us. We live in spirit. Spirit is the, is the unified field of All of that consciousness and awareness that is not incarnate, that is not in meat, that is not in physical substance.

So yeah, I, I would agree with what you said, but I would, I would say with spirit, not with our spirit, spirit isn’t owned. [00:30:00]

Amanda Walsh: Okay, so there’s not like a spiritual essence or a spiritual quality that’s unique to each one of us?

Rick Levine: Yeah, that’s what our, that’s, that’s soul is the spiritual quality that’s unique to each of us, but that’s not spirit.

Spirit is the ascension of moving out of physicality where there is no time and space. There is spirit. Everything that ever was and everything that ever will be anywhere in the cosmos is happening right now. It’s, you know, the cosmos is like an Encyclopedia Britannica for those people who remember those 26 volumes.

You can only pull out one volume at a time, only open up to one page and only read one sentence. But it’s all existing at the same time. Remember, it was the astrologer Johannes Kepler who was the first human to break through that realm into the divine proportion and say, Oh no, this isn’t magic. We can understand this.

We can, we can open up our mind and do these mathematical [00:31:00] manipulations and we can understand how these Planets are actually moving consistent in a way that makes sense. This is not magic. We can, we can constantly open our mind.

Amanda Walsh: That distinction you just made between spirit and soul, I’ve heard it many, many times, but for whatever reason, the way you just described it, it was like, Oh wow, that just clicked.

Rick Levine: And that’s Plato. Plato. Plato. Basically. Talk about, and again, remember astrology is not based on 12 signs. It’s based on four elements and three ways. Those elements each manifest four elements, fire, earth, air, water. And those are not metaphysical because all traditions will include. A fifth element that even in the Greeks they called ether, but it’s invisible.

It’s meta. And so it doesn’t count. That’s why there’s only four elements in the, in, but in Chinese modality, there’s five elements. Anyhow, four elements, and each element presents [00:32:00] either as a beginning, a middle, or an ending. A cardinal, fixed, or mutable. And it’s four times three that makes twelve signs of the Zodiac.

But here’s the thing that Plato said. Plato said that fire and air had affinity because they were of spirit. They were outward and upward ascending or young or masculine, whereas soul is water and earth, which is yin or feminine or in drawing. And one is not superior or more important than the other. Our existence depends upon a balance between them, which is really the origin of Jungian psychology.

Was, he called, he didn’t call it Jungian psychology any more than Jesus called his teachings Christianity. Jung called his [00:33:00] teachings, um, the psychology of four types, or analytical psychology. What were the four types? Thinking, feeling, intuiting, and sensing, fire, earth, air, water, or the four suits of the, of the tarot.

Amanda Walsh: Also the four suits of the, the 52 card deck, yeah?

Rick Levine: Well that, same origin, but yes.

Amanda Walsh: Right,

Rick Levine: right.

Amanda Walsh: Okay. Okay. Okay. Then you brought in that qualities, the, the sort of universal qualities or higher level qualities could potentially enrich our life here on earth.

Rick Levine: Not potentially. Yeah. I’m sorry. Go ahead.

Amanda Walsh: Yeah. I didn’t want to say an absolute because I didn’t want to be, uh, you know, speaking out of term, but yes, I would agree.

Rick Levine: Correct. And I would agree with your lack of lack of absolute also. Go ahead. Yes,

Amanda Walsh: exactly. On an, on an everyday basis, they, they improve the quality of our life. That the, the planets act as intermediaries to help us actually bring [00:34:00] those somewhat intangible qualities into physical form. That there’s, there’s an actual.

psychic mediumships, as you, you said, that we can actually tune into that because the planets are visible, they can, they somehow help us make those invisible qualities more tangible in our lives if we work with them that way.

Rick Levine: And if we observe them, we actually can see that manifestation occurring. And once we see it occurring, we then begin to have the ability to see the patterning enough.

That we can say, you know, that pattern is based upon this illusion that was created by this event when I was three years old, because I didn’t understand what was happening then, or when I was seven years old and I didn’t know that I wasn’t responsible for that event. Then it happened to me. And because I felt I was responsible for it, it’s changed my next.

40 years of life [00:35:00] because every time something similar happens to that, I feel like I’m did something wrong and I go into this aberrated behavior and I don’t even realize it. And therefore astrology can be used as a therapy because remember therapy is really a relatively recent invention. Freud, you know, onward, um, you know, in the early 20th century.

Um, That basically had to do with going back and seeing patterns that you didn’t know existed and taking a story that you were telling incorrectly, retelling it so that you’re freed from these invisible, repetitive, neurotic patterns, which I would suggest, and I’m not the first person to suggest it.

That’s what civilization does. There are people who say that we have a collective memory that just like a neurotic growing up, we block out that stuff. It’s so painful. And we turn it into these mythological stories. What I’m going toward is that part [00:36:00] of Pluto’s movement into Aquarius seems to be connected to getting a perspective on this wider truth.

So that like a person in therapy, humanity on earth is going through a therapeutic process in, in a hundred different disciplines, or at least five or 10 that I can think of off the top of my head, where we go, that’s not what I was taught in school. Holy smokes. That’s different. Oh my God. Columbus didn’t discover America.

Europeans killed 150 million people in order to colonize the new world. Oh my god, you know, the, the earth isn’t, you know, 2 billion years old. It’s much older than that. Oh my, whatever it is, we’re learning things over and over and over again that’s forcing us to Revision who we are, where we came from, what we’re doing.

And I think that as Pluto moves through Aquarius, this is just the tip of the tip of the iceberg. I think that Pluto and Aquarius really only [00:37:00] requires us to memorize two initials.

A I E T. That’s it. And I’m being a little tongue in cheek there, but not completely because those two pieces hold for us a revisioning of who we are, what we’re doing, where we are, where we’re going, and what our connection is to the larger Cosmos or beautiful order that doesn’t seem so beautiful because we feel excluded from it because we’ve separated ourselves from the nature in which we live.

So spirituality, then bringing this full circle, becomes a process within which each individual can go on an individual journey that is a journey that has been taken by hundreds of thousands of millions of humans from the dawn of [00:38:00] time as they begin to ask these questions. of what is real. How do I fit into the larger whole?

What is it that’s beyond the Rick Levine game that has essence and importance that brings meaning to my life? And how can I look out there and see other people who seem not to be connected, not to my truths, not to my life, but to this thing that seems effusively Uh, ubiquitous, I think is the right word to everything out there and what can we do?

This is why I believe this is why you do astrology hub. It’s why we do what we do because there’s a part of our spirit that is not going to let us just be quiet and passive while all this stuff is going on without doing whatever we can to help the planet. Earth, uh, humanity journey toward this greater spiritualism.

You know, there’s a [00:39:00] concept in, in Buddhism, uh, Mahayana Buddhism, um, which is one of the, you know, a couple of different schools or incarnations. If that’s the right word of Buddhism, Mahayana Buddhism has this concept that I rephrase, um, that basically says no one gets off until everyone gets off. In other words, your liberation, your enlightenment is ultimately an illusion until everyone is enlightened.

Amanda Walsh: This is just so, so many amazing like soundbites and like, okay, there’s a soundbite. There’s a soundbite. It’s just incredible.

Rick Levine: Well, that’s your job, Amanda. I’ll expect to see them all on TikTok in the weeks and months ahead. Oh yeah. Oh

Amanda Walsh: yeah. Don’t worry about it. We’ve got you covered. Uh, the, the, the final thing that you’ve said, I’ve been just listening for like, what are the, what are the.

Like, the pillars of, of what we’re talking about here in terms of how astrology can help us live a more spiritual life on a daily basis.

Rick Levine: I have a one line easy answer to that. [00:40:00] The great guru said, and I don’t know who the great guru was, but again, it wasn’t me. Inch by inch, it’s a cinch. Yard by yard, it’s hard.

Everybody’s journey is different. There’s no one answer. Uh, any, any astrologer or life coach or teacher who goes, here is what you do. It’s these five steps. Get the hell out of there. Those are that person’s five steps and they may work for that person. They may even work for a lot of people, but part of going on this spiritual path is the awareness that that path, although, like I said earlier, hundreds of millions of people have gone their lives down a spiritual path.

Every one of those paths are different. It’s not just about making an intention. Intentions are great. The secret, I mean, they, you know, it’s an important concept. In theory, but in practice, it misses something very important. [00:41:00] And that practice is doing something physical. You can’t just say, I want this, or my intention is to live a life, blah, blah, blah, blah.

You actually need to pour water into that dry pump before you can get any water out of it. You need to do actions. This is why we create ritual. Ritual is simply a little way. Of making a pattern, whether it’s my ritual of having these flowers near me. Which, to me, is part of a ritual that just reminds me that there is a beauty, a cosmo, a beautiful order, that I don’t sometimes see when I’m just focused here.

And so, we make these rituals that kind of give the gods The planets a way to manifest in the three dimensional world. You know, I have a concept that I’ve been working on. It’s a book that is not yet written, but I call it the planets in your pocket. I [00:42:00] think we’ve talked about this before and it’s basically forget about your chart.

I don’t mean, I don’t mean be ignorant about it. But I don’t care where your moon is, or I shouldn’t say I don’t care I’m a Cancer moon. I don’t mind where your moon is. You know, your moon can be in Aquarius where it might seem to be emotionally detached by some people. It can be in Scorpio where it might seem to hold on to passions with great intensity.

Doesn’t matter. It’s like you have all the planets in your pocket always. And there are times when we need to reach into that pocket and pull out Mars so that we can maintain a boundary. There are times when we need to reach into that same pocket and pull out Jupiter so that we can expand our mind beyond those normal boundaries so that we can understand something from a greater perspective.

There’s times when we need to pull that Venus out of our pocket. And somehow do something that invites it into our life. It’s not about, Oh, no one loves me. [00:43:00] Forget that question. If you think no one loves you, then work harder to love. It’s not about what we get. It’s about what we do. And I, and, and again, all the astrology as a practice, not about looking at birth or natal charts, not even about.

Joining a group to do a meditation or ritual at a new moon, full moon or eclipse, all of which I think are important. The question becomes, what do you do once you leave that ritual? What do you do the next day? What do you do the next days? Because doing something at a new moon is absolutely worthless.

Unless you do something every day for the few days following that new moon to establish, it’s like planting a seed. You can’t just plant a seed, you need to water it. You need, you need to nurture it. You need to bring it into existence, and then once it appears, Oh my God, there it is, my work’s done. No, that’s when your work starts.

And so, what can we do as [00:44:00] astrologers to become more spiritual? It’s work on that place in our lives where the physical and the metaphysical meet, where the world that we think we live in kind of bumps up against the world that we think we would like to live in that has those more larger transcendent cooperation, uh, compassion, love.

How can we, in little ways, push little parts of our lives there? Because as we do, those behaviors have impact on people around us that then encourage them. And I don’t mean through words, but it gives them a field in which then they can easier act and react in ways that then becomes the ripple that Teilhard de Chardin in his wonderful book, The Phenomenon of Man, in which he envisioned the World Wide Web.

He called it the newest fear. The newest fear in his way of thinking was the fire of God becoming this like an [00:45:00] atmosphere around Earth that was not physical, that became the thought of humans that was basically going to find truth. Now we’re at a delicate situation where we seem to be vacillating between Uh, truth with a capital T and lots of truths with smaller T’s that may also not be truth.

And it’s very complicated, but that’s the process that we are in at this point of, of rebirth at this point of, um, um, uh, a humankind being in labor, constricted in a birth canal. And we thinking this is reality. No, this is the process that we go through as we’re going from a death of, of one thing, coming back to the Pluto into Aquarius and the Pluto return for the United States of America.

And I know I’ve said this here before that a lot of people say that Pluto’s return was 2022 and 2023. Well, using tropical astrology, it was. But Pluto didn’t make a complete orbit because it’s 248 [00:46:00] years. You had 248 to 1776. You got 2024 2025. We’re still in that process. And Pluto is about the process of deconstruction, reconstruction, or what we sometimes call death, rebirth, with the understanding that you can’t have birth.

Without death prior and you can’t have death without a rebirth after and we’re in this long term cycle of seeing that process play out in our lives and we can’t change it. It’s too big of a cycle, but we can think cosmically and act locally, very locally. Our children, our friends, our parents, our employer, our employees.

You know, how do we interact with those? How do we interact with our environment? What do we do on a minute to minute day to day basis? And it’s not about being perfect. We’re human. We’re supposed to be imperfect. It’s what can we do every day [00:47:00] that just ups our own personal gain, that game, not gain that, that moves us from the physical.

into the meta physical, because like it or not, that’s the larger process we’re all in. You know, it’s been said, I think it was by Jung that death, I’m sorry, that life is a disease with a bad prognosis because the outcome is always fatal. And so we all will become meta physical. And so I think it’s important to keep in mind that in little ways, daily rituals, daily practices can help us embody that metaphysical journey.

And it’s not about someone telling you what to do. It’s about you making little things in your own life that allow that water to be priming the pump that you want to eventually use. gush in some sort of, you know, kind, compassionate, spiritual manner. End of rant.

Amanda Walsh: Brilliant [00:48:00] rant, Rick. I’ve missed you so much.

You know, one of the things that you just talked about there with, with rituals and, you know, new moon and full moon and daily and that none of it matters unless we’re actually doing something with it. One thing I just want to add is that the Astrology, what it can do for us in support of those rituals is it gives us a visual cue, a visual reminder.

But to me, it’s almost like we have a big huge chalkboard in the sky saying, okay, the day’s over. Time for you to be grateful about what happened that day. Time for you to be intentionally setting your, your.

Rick Levine: And it also says things like next Thursday, You’re going to have more magic markers at your disposal than you all, than you usually do.

So next Thursday, use them or whatever, right? That way it’s the importance of the inner circle, you know, kind of, it’s a process. It’s not just about reading something one day. It’s an engaging process [00:49:00] because that’s what this is about. I mean, you got to understand, I mean, this began when I wrote dailies. I started writing my dailies back in 2001.

And there’s never been a day in, well, it’s actually from 20, from 2001 to 2021, there was never a day when I didn’t spend at least an hour looking at where the planets were today. And how I could frame language about what that was and what we might do with it, you know, in, in some sort of positive manner, rather than just saying Mars is conjuncting Saturn today, you know, be careful of hitting walls, you know, no, that’s a negative warning.

And then I’m going to start seeing walls and I’ll probably hit him, you know, and so there’s ways in which we can use the astrological awareness. Every day of our life to see what’s out there and to learn to remind ourselves. That projecting our fear [00:50:00] onto the future. Oh my God, Saturn is going to do this.

Um, so, or Pluto’s going to hit my hit my, you know, Pluto doesn’t hit anything. Pluto’s cycle aligns with, you know, your natal sun or moon or ascended. I’m so frightened because when, when it did something last time, I lost blah, blah, blah, blah, get over it. That’s what happened in the past. How are you going to work with that energy?

And what are you going to do that in some ways allows that energy to ripple through the system without trying to stop it? Because the harder you try to stop it or resist it, quoting Werner Erhardt, that which we resist will persist, you know? So it’s how do you engage it? And like an Aikido master pulling it through the system, working with it, and then letting it ripple out rather than building up these walls of fear that just manifest our greatest fears.

It’s a problem of astrology. So anyhow, I just stepped into another hole deep, you know, a deep pit of doo [00:51:00] doo, but there we go.

Amanda Walsh: No, it’s so good. Rick, thank you so much. I mean, there’s so, there’s so much here, so many tangible things that we can. And keep in mind as we’re wanting to bring more of the, uh, the, the metaphysical and the physical and the physical and connect in more with the spiritual realm and the unseen.

And it’s, it’s just brilliant. There’s some,

Rick Levine: and it’s so easy to talk about it and not do anything that that’s why astrology is not spiritual. Astrology is a tool.

Amanda Walsh: Yeah.

Rick Levine: And it allows us to be more spiritual if we are so inclined. We have to lean that way ourselves, incline.

Amanda Walsh: It’s information, it’s data, it’s, it’s, it’s a lot of suggestions.

It creates more awareness, but we actually have to do something with it. I love that. If any of this resonates, you definitely will love our Eclipse. experience that we’re putting together because it is all [00:52:00] about these things that we’re talking about. It’s about awareness. It’s about creating ritual. It’s about taking action.

It’s about how do we use an astrological event to help us bring more awareness into our lives and actually step into that co creative experience that Rick was talking about earlier with the Fate, you know, instead of fate things happening to us and oh no, it was

Rick Levine: prone. Pronoia, pronoia.

Amanda Walsh: Pronoia. Yes, exactly.

So stepping into that, that third level of fate where we’re actually in a participation with the universe, that’s what this eclipse experience is all All about the whole entire event that we’ve put together there for you. Rick is going to be a huge central point of that. So make sure that you go to astrology hub.

com slash eclipse 2024. We’re going to drop that link in the show notes as well. In addition, Rick’s teachings along with 11 other astrologers will be featured as a part of our inner circle this year coming up.

Rick Levine: I’m [00:53:00] so excited to be back in the inner circle as a guide. Yes! Yeah.

Amanda Walsh: I know. It’s gonna be so much fun.

And we’re gonna, we’re gonna be entering into our promotional period where you can join the inner circle for 45 percent off here very soon. So just stay tuned and look out for that. Um, Rick, thank you so much for being here. It’s such a pleasure as always.

Rick Levine: Thank you.

Amanda Walsh: So much wisdom shared here with us today.

And I just, I always get so much out of this personally. And I know our community does as well. So thank you for being back here.

Rick Levine: And thank you for creating this platform. That’s so important in this day and age of total bizarreness of whatever it is that’s going out there. Going on out there. It actually is our bizarreness that’s going on in here.

Amanda Walsh: I love that. Thank you so much for bringing us back to that. It’s always about that. So thank you and thanks to all of you for being here. Thank you so much for being a part of our community, for making astrology a part of your life. And I’m gonna steal Rick’s line unless Rick wants to say it.

Rick Levine: I, I, I say it so.

I, I say it so often, [00:54:00] it’s, I, think cosmically, it’s important, it’s great, it’s useful, but it does no use at all unless you think cosmically and locally, very locally.

Amanda Walsh: There we go. All right, everybody, take care and we will see you very soon.