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🌟 Introduction to Rise and Thrive Coaching Academy: Discover Catherine Plano’s unique ICF certified program that integrates astrology into coaching.
🧠 Spiritual and Mental Reinvention: Learn about Catherine’s approach to combining psychological and spiritual aspects for holistic coaching.
🔮 Astro Life Blueprint: Explore how Catherine uses astrological blueprints to assess and guide clients in various life areas.
🎓 The Importance of ICF Accreditation: Understand what it means to be ICF accredited and why it's crucial for professional coaching.
😊 Positive Psychology in Coaching: Dive into the principles of positive psychology and how they enhance resilience and well-being.
📚 Coaching Techniques: Gain insights into coaching techniques that empower clients to find their own solutions and foster personal growth.
📅 Program Details: Learn about the structure, duration, and components of the Rise and Thrive Coaching Academy program.
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Transcript:
00:00:00:04 – 00:00:31:08
Amanda
If you are an astrologer or an astrology student who would love a formal education in coaching, or a coach who would love to incorporate astrology into your practice. And if you're looking to make a sustainable career out of your love of astrology and coaching, this one is for you. I'm here today with Catherine Piano, the founder of Rise and Thrive Coaching Academy and ICF Certified School, headquartered in Australia for serving students virtually worldwide.
00:00:31:10 – 00:01:00:05
Amanda
Catherine is an international keynote speaker, executive coach, and leadership development professional with over two decades of experience transforming lives through spiritual and mental reinvention. She has developed a very unique ICF certified coaching program that incorporates astrology at its foundation and provides immediate opportunities for those who want to go into coaching as a career. I'm thrilled about our developing partnership.
00:01:00:10 – 00:01:21:19
Amanda
Catherine and her team are amazing to work with, and we've already had a whole cohort of astrology up students who are going through Catherine's program with incredible results. I'll be interviewing some of them here on the podcast soon.
00:01:21:21 – 00:01:29:19
Amanda
Catherine, welcome back to the Astrology Hub podcast. I'm thrilled to be in conversation again with you today, and thank you so much for being here.
00:01:29:21 – 00:01:41:12
Catherine
What an introduction. Amanda, it's such a pleasure to be back. I love it. I love you, I love the tribe and honestly, I love our conversation. So I'm looking forward to our conversation today. Thank you. Yeah.
00:01:41:18 – 00:01:58:22
Amanda
Me too. Catherine. Okay, so I have to start here because something jumped out at me. In your bio, you talk about spiritual and mental reinvention and helping people transform through this. It's super intriguing, but what does it actually mean? I would love to know.
00:01:58:24 – 00:02:19:03
Catherine
Yeah, absolutely. So I guess my first half of my life, I mean, I'm 58, so it was a long time ago. So I think the majority of my life is since, since I was 16. I've always dabbled and it's part of my family as well. My father and my aunt, he's up, dabbled in crystals, tarot, you know, you name it.
00:02:19:04 – 00:02:43:12
Catherine
Reiki side came and then in my 20s into astrology. And it's just hasn't stopped. But what I, really found, was taking shape for me. There was a real psychological or mental aspect to the spiritual side, obviously. and you hear the saying all the time that we are a human having a, a soul having a human experience.
00:02:43:14 – 00:03:11:08
Catherine
And so for me, the combination of the two go hand in hand, because when we're in spirit, we mentally and psychologically think in a very, very different way when we're not in spirit. So when we're very external focus, our mental capacity is, it's almost like spread through the environment. And we're not being holistic in our approach. So I see them, they go hand in hand.
00:03:11:08 – 00:03:28:11
Catherine
But it's also to me, it's how often do we think about what we think about you think about it. We don't think about what we think about lots of thinking words right now, on a regular basis. And I think the more that we sit with what is what is in our mind, what is in, you know, what is this thought about?
00:03:28:11 – 00:03:36:23
Catherine
Why is this thought even here? This is where I think the spiritual evolution takes place. So I see them work hand in hand.
00:03:37:00 – 00:04:00:13
Amanda
Okay. And you've dedicated your life to building this school. The Rise and Thrive Coaching Academy. And do you have an interest in astrology. I mean you've, you've, you've studied you you've practiced to a certain extent and you've incorporated it into your coaching program, which is very unique. I mean, I know there's only a few ICF certified coaching programs in the world, correct?
00:04:00:15 – 00:04:23:07
Catherine
That's correct. There's there's, actually millions and millions, I think I can't remember the stats where there was like 30, 50 millions of coaches. I can't even remember. But there's lots of people that say they coaches, but there's only 3000 something. They're actually ICF accredited from an academy point of view. There's only two that are level two ICF accredited in positive psychology.
00:04:23:09 – 00:04:53:02
Catherine
And we went for with positive psychology. And that linked in with the mental and spiritual because, positive psychology is the driver for me was more so about resilience, wellbeing, mental health and also, just a lot of people taking their lives. And so what we're seeing in and I can only speak for Australia, of course, but what we're seeing is a lot of people, you know, there's great support mechanisms out there, don't get me wrong.
00:04:53:04 – 00:05:19:12
Catherine
But the thing is, we're not teaching our people. Had to look after themselves, had a fish kind of thing. Right? Right. So, with the Academy. Absolutely. It's a combination of. I'm not an astrologist, by the way, so I've just put that out there. I'm not an astrologist. I've been dancing with a strategy since my 20s. I've been in corporate for 30 plus years in leadership, mainly leadership and executive and encouraging for that long.
00:05:19:14 – 00:05:41:20
Catherine
And so what I've dabbled in is I have definitely I started playing with a little bit of astrology in the executive space a few years ago, and the more that I played with it, the more that I brought it to life. And then I was more so thinking about how can I make it so tangible that people won't look at this is two way, way, because some do, some do.
00:05:41:21 – 00:06:10:10
Catherine
They don't realize it's actually a science. They there's a whole, oh, it's it's magic that takes place when you bring the, archetypes or even the, what we call the astral life blueprint, which is basically a wheel with the 12 houses that we work through. And so the combination of the astrology and the corporate and I didn't even know I'm using astrology, that I don't even talk about astrology.
00:06:10:14 – 00:06:42:03
Catherine
Like, you don't even have to know astrology if you did, obviously. Absolutely. It will take everything to the next level. But going through and working with individuals at that level, really basic level, like some of our coaches are using our tools and they don't know astrology, but just to work on personal, things like, for example, if you have a look at the astrology blueprint, it could be what we do is get the individual to assess how satisfied are you in these areas of your life.
00:06:42:03 – 00:07:03:21
Catherine
And it could be wealth, it could be finance, it could be identity, whatever that might be. And so they mark themselves out of ten how satisfied they are. And then what happens is then we say, okay, so how important is it to you? And they go, well, you know, I might write myself astray in finance, but important. Ten and so we do this with the wheel.
00:07:03:21 – 00:07:22:19
Catherine
And as I can see, what we look for is the gaps. And so what it gives them, it gives them a visual of this is the area of my life that's not working for me. And so it's beautiful because then we start working with that house and so and so. And this is really basic because I'm talking on I'm not even bringing up astrology right there.
00:07:22:19 – 00:07:40:14
Catherine
Right. But even understanding, working with that house, understanding the energy of the house sign in that house, and then the rule of that house, it helps me bring up questions that will be, significant to that individual working through that, that particular house.
00:07:40:16 – 00:08:03:03
Amanda
I love this, Catherine. And this is one of the reasons why Catherine approached me months ago about her school and why she felt like it was a great potential partnership for our students because she was saying, you know, a lot of my coaches, they they are using astrology in this way. It's very, you know, basic. But they don't they don't understand it very deeply.
00:08:03:09 – 00:08:27:00
Amanda
And if they did so if we had students who also understood astrology, it would just be that much more impactful. And so just in that little example, you just gave of the Astro Life blueprint that you use in your coaching sessions with leaders and, you know, different people that are having coaching with you, understanding the house, you could there's so many levels of understanding houses.
00:08:27:00 – 00:09:04:04
Amanda
There's so many levels of understanding archetypes. There's so many levels of understanding that the planetary placements and the aspects, you know, it's it's like this continuous layer by layer unpacking. And so I can see exactly, you know, if, if, if one of our astrology students was giving this assessment and they identified a certain house is where the biggest gap is, and then they could take they could reference their understanding of the house of the house ruler of the, you know, archetypal energies, and then reflect that back to someone in English, you know, you know, in, in a language that the people can understand.
00:09:04:10 – 00:09:24:21
Amanda
I can see how that would be just infinitely impactful in that kind of environment. So let's talk a little bit about coaching in general, because like you said, however many millions of people say their coaches, only about 3000 are actually ICF accredited. What at first of all, what's ICF accredited and why is that so important?
00:09:24:23 – 00:09:47:22
Catherine
Yeah, so ICF accredited is, International Coaching Federation. They're a global organization. They're based in the US actually. And so for example, the importance is if you're doing corporate work like we do. So basically we do we've been doing corporate work for where our company's been here since 2009. But I've been corporate for 30 years. So I've got a PHC that doesn't do anything for me.
00:09:47:22 – 00:10:18:19
Catherine
I've got an accreditation I get that gets me in a lot of corporate doors because they understand that there's a process, there's the code of ethics and there's standards to, to be a coach, to be a coach. There's a it's a real art and science to be a coach. It's it's not. And you find like most people when they first start because they've been and especially we have a lot of psychologists, we have a lot of, a lot of different, counselors that come and join us.
00:10:18:21 – 00:10:40:10
Catherine
And of course, their approach is very much, you know, telling and guiding. And so to change your style, it's been a bit of a, a bit of a, a shift for them. Right? Because I've had to flip the way that they, approach their clients. So instead of telling the client, you go in there and actually ask the right questions, and that's what we talk about.
00:10:40:10 – 00:11:02:01
Catherine
Thought provoking questions. The questions. And it's amazing, Amanda, because not only can you apply this in as you're doing it, the more that you learn to be a coach as you're doing these, I'm hearing stories that people are doing this with their partners and have got it's improved relationship because now instead of going, but this is the guy, I'm really curious what drove you to that kind of behavior.
00:11:02:01 – 00:11:23:20
Catherine
And so even like, parents with their children or even people, we've got a couple of executives in the sales environment instead of telling their clients what they should do, they're asking. So it's just about flipping how you go about instead of, this is for all of us. If you've got something to tell someone, turn it into a question.
00:11:23:22 – 00:11:46:15
Catherine
reverse it, and then you'll say, it's so beautiful because the brain doesn't like to be told what to do. And so when we approach a situation, the brain contracts. But if we go in there with a curious mindset and go and ask the beautiful questions to draw it out from the individual, it's beautiful to watch. So there's an art and a science to it.
00:11:46:17 – 00:12:10:14
Catherine
the other part is you really learn how to listen. And that also is hard in itself when you're sitting there and you're you're thinking about what's the next thing I want to say and you know, and what's next question or you're distracted by something else. And so we always talk about listening with your heart. So when we stop listening with our eyes or even our eyes because we get distracted with narrative.
00:12:10:14 – 00:12:26:08
Catherine
So sometimes you could be sitting there coaching someone and thinking, what am I going to make for dinner tonight? Oh, I'm going to make Bolognese. Oh, do I have the ingredient? Oh, I have to go to the shops so you can see the people you can see in their physiology. They're in off in a little tangent while they're coaching.
00:12:26:10 – 00:12:44:01
Catherine
So this would teach you how when you listen with your heart. And this is for all of us of practice. It's beautiful because we see and hear things that we've never heard before. And so these are just some little early tips of some of the things that we do in how is coaching. Our coach is not telling what to do.
00:12:44:01 – 00:13:16:13
Catherine
It's not giving people advice. It's not giving, ideas or clues. It's actually understanding that we, every single one of us, have the resources we need to heal ourselves. We don't need to have someone to tell us what to do, because that's going to that's going to go in one ear and out the other. But when it comes from the inside out, because coaching is an inside job, you can see that people light up and go, oh my God, I came to that my with my own, mindset, my own resolution, my own whatever.
00:13:16:15 – 00:13:18:22
Catherine
It's so much more powerful.
00:13:18:24 – 00:13:45:22
Amanda
this is great for astrology students as well, because I think a lot of times astrologers think that they need to go into a reading or a session with someone to give them answers to, to tell them, you know, what they want to know. And a lot of times people do come to an astrologer looking for an answer to a specific question.
00:13:45:24 – 00:14:08:18
Amanda
But it's like one of our, you know, Rick Levine, one of our master astrologers who's been doing this for decades and decades. He says, if you're looking for an answer, astrologer, I'm not your guy because he knows, after all those decades of experience, first of all, it's a lot of responsibility to tell someone what to do or what they should think or what or what's going to happen.
00:14:08:18 – 00:14:29:08
Amanda
Any of those things karmically, you know, it's a, it's a it's a big load to, to carry. But then also they don't get to have that transformative experience that you just talked about. They don't get to have their own realization. They don't get to own the insights the way that they would if they were the ones who came upon it.
00:14:29:08 – 00:15:07:01
Amanda
So I love that you're teaching people to ask the right questions. And I know we have that whole like a whole astrology hab cohort of students going through your program right now. And that they're having an experience of, oh, wow, this is flipping the script. You know, instead of me going in as the all knowing astrologer with all the answers to your future, I'm able to ask the right questions that are helping to guide the conversation and using the astrology as a reference point, which is brilliant because we know any of us who've looked at any of us who have studied astrology, we know there's there are a ton of there's a ton of insights
00:15:07:01 – 00:15:23:02
Amanda
available to you within the astrology, but that there's a spectrum of possibilities for how it could be expressing. And so by having a more of a dialog, you're opening up a lot more potential for where that conversation can go. Right?
00:15:23:04 – 00:15:49:05
Catherine
100%, 100%. And the other thing, the difference is just the feedback from this. The astrologers that are doing this course is normally they would sit with somebody's chart and study it and prepare and prepare for the session, whereas the coaching session, you don't prepare, you go in not knowing what you're stepping into. so it's a really different kind of it's, it's really flipping the switch as it's flipping the way that you go about and how you approach thing.
00:15:49:07 – 00:16:23:12
Catherine
You go in there not knowing what somebody's going to ask or talk about what they want to work on. So we don't need to because, you know, what happens? Amanda, when we prepare for a session, let's say, what happens is, and we have preconceived conceptions about what needs to take place. And then what happens is when leading a conversation and, and, and and then what happens is we're also projecting our beliefs, our thoughts of what we've seen in somebody's chart or whatever that might be into the session, into the session.
00:16:23:12 – 00:16:52:16
Catherine
So, I think that going in empty handed and really going in because we always, say, in our sessions, who's driving the bus? Is it the coach of the coaching? because you really it is up to the and honestly, I've looked at it these the coaching that drives a session. I see if looks at who's been talking the most and they actually measure that the coaches should be talking 80% of the time and the coach only about 20% of the time.
00:16:52:18 – 00:17:01:23
Catherine
which is hard for astrologers because I do all the talking and then they've had to flip, but they've had profound shifts just doing it that way by going in and asking questions.
00:17:02:04 – 00:17:38:16
Amanda
And I'm thinking that perhaps behind that is somewhat of an insecurity, right? Because we think we have to go in and provide all this value, and that the value is comes from the level of preparation and the level of expertise and the level of advice and, you know, all those things. But if we can rest into it sounds like you're giving, you're giving an infrastructure, you're giving an approach and and you're giving these students something that is effective and, and works so they can rest in that.
00:17:38:18 – 00:18:04:22
Amanda
But but also realize that they don't have to do everything. It's not all up to them to to do it. And I and again I'm thinking that underneath that that's thought that we do need to do everything is a bit of an insecurity about our value and the value that we bring in. I know astrology in general has that, you know, there's there's sometimes this sense that we have to prove that it's valid, that it's helpful, that it's legitimate, you know, all these things because of the way the world views it.
00:18:04:22 – 00:18:13:00
Amanda
For the most part. And so it just sounds like there's a bit of a liberation that can happen for someone utilizing this approach.
00:18:13:02 – 00:18:30:20
Catherine
100%. There is there's a definitely, less angst in less, I guess, perfectionism plays out like it's going to be right. It's kind of like they come in and let go and there's a lot more. Let's just dance and see what happens in the room rather than, I have to get it right, I have to prepared.
00:18:30:22 – 00:18:55:19
Catherine
And the thing is, everyone will, everyone has a different experience with the different archetypes, whether it's Uranus, whether it's, you know, Venus, Jupiter, it doesn't matter. But the thing is that it's how we have that experience. You know, we whether it's in it's light or shadow and it's with anything. But what we do talk about is that any time something comes up, it's not about us trying to fix people.
00:18:55:21 – 00:19:21:22
Catherine
because, you know, Amanda, if we go in thinking that someone is broken, we're projecting. They are broken. And so we will keep receiving the brokenness of that individual if we go in with the lens that you are enough. You are all that you are and that you have all the resources. It's beautiful because you go in and we have these three principles non-judgment we don't judge because that blinds us from seeing what's truly in front of us.
00:19:21:24 – 00:19:49:11
Catherine
And then we have nonresistance we will not resist what is in the room. because sometimes the you have to understand anyone has different values, different beliefs, and so we can't resist what's in the room. And then non-attachment, because sometimes as a coach or even as an astrologist or even as a counselor or it doesn't matter, we have an attachment to this is the outcome I want, you know, to happen of this person.
00:19:49:11 – 00:20:12:13
Catherine
You know, we want to do so good for somebody else. But the, when we let go of attachment, we let go of resistance. And we will let we let go of judgment. And we're just allowing to whatever comes up in the room, even when there's tears. I know feeling, I say, started Amanda. If anyone started crying, I used to go in the opposite direction or go to the next question.
00:20:12:15 – 00:20:33:14
Catherine
But we learn to sit with what is and is that in itself. It could be as simple as if your TS had a voice right now, what would they say? And it's so beautiful just to to just sit with what is which. We haven't been taught to do that, Amanda. We've been taught we've been conditioned to repressed our emotions as a child.
00:20:33:14 – 00:20:52:23
Catherine
Are you want to shush? Don't do that. Oh, shush. Don't say like that. And so when we actually sit with ourselves and sit with what is beautiful, things start happening, you know, and even and understanding the non-judgment peace. Let's say, let's say self-care is a good one that comes up all the time when it comes up doing judge, good or bad.
00:20:52:23 – 00:21:12:18
Catherine
We say it's not good, there's no bad. There's no right, there's no wrong. But it serves a purpose and understand how is it serving you? What's the purpose of self doubt? And it could be as simple as it's it's because it's the purpose is that I want to get better. It's helping me improve. It's it's motive maybe motivating me in some way.
00:21:12:20 – 00:21:29:14
Catherine
And then you could say, well, what is it protecting me from when self-doubt protecting you from well, is protecting me from making mistakes? Is protecting me from failure, is protecting me from criticism. And then we go, what's the secondary gain? Why are you hanging on to this self-doubt?
00:21:29:16 – 00:21:30:09
Amanda
Well.
00:21:30:11 – 00:21:56:09
Catherine
I when I express I have self-doubt, that's how I get support. That's how I get sympathy, that's how I get connection. And I also by hanging on to this self-doubt, I don't have to challenge anyone. I don't have to take responsibility. So when you you see that these beautiful psychological archetype are there for a reason, we gave birth to them.
00:21:56:11 – 00:22:04:23
Catherine
And understanding its purpose. And why are they protecting us? It's it's a game changer. It really is.
00:22:05:00 – 00:22:30:04
Amanda
earlier. And I'd love to get to for anybody interested in actually joining your school. And I know you have a cohort coming up that's going to be sort of reserved for any of the astrology, have students that want to join, which is awesome, but you talked earlier about positive psychology, and I don't want to assume that everybody knows what that is.
00:22:30:04 – 00:22:36:22
Amanda
So what is positive psychology versus non positive psychology. You know, what does it actually mean.
00:22:36:24 – 00:23:07:00
Catherine
Yeah yeah. Good question. So positive psychology analyzed this question. Posi psychology. People think that positive psychology is all about being positive right. Absolutely not. Positive psychology is understanding that the brain naturally resists change. There's always going to be a resistance and a push back. So it's about understanding that it does that, that it resists change. But positive psychology is about accepting what is right, which which helps us build that resilient muscle.
00:23:07:02 – 00:23:30:00
Catherine
But it's also looking at and reframing it in another way. It's not about being positive all the time. It's about accepting all that is. So if you're feeling angry or frustrated or what have you, that maybe we work with every single emotion that is available. So the framework itself, it's really links in to things like strength based, leadership.
00:23:30:00 – 00:23:45:09
Catherine
So we look at, what are your strengths? Because if you think about it and I don't know, I'm, you know, back in the day when I was at school, we used to get the report cards. And so, you know, I'd have my parents still get my report cards and go, oh, you know what? You know, I go straight away where I didn't do well.
00:23:45:09 – 00:24:04:00
Catherine
And that's what most people do, you know, they fix on the things that we are not good at. And what does that do? Well, all that does, it makes it a little bit better. But when we start looking at what are we good at? And that's that's part of positive psychology working with our strengths, it would catapult so we talk about working with our strengths.
00:24:04:00 – 00:24:20:23
Catherine
We do this evening it being in right to thrive with our team. We work with our strengths. So for example, Amanda, I don't like data. I don't like working with numbers. So I don't do that. But I love all the creative stuff that lights me up. And and so we talk about what strengths is not what you're good at.
00:24:20:23 – 00:24:40:23
Catherine
By the way, everyone thinks that strengths is what you're good at. No, I mean, I'm really good at cleaning my shower with my toothbrush. I'm the best super machine cleaner you could possibly imagine. But it's it's not what I'm good at. It's what lights me up. It's what gives me joy. It's what gives me purpose. What else can I say about it?
00:24:40:23 – 00:24:55:13
Catherine
We do lots of different activities like AZT, CBT, like cognitive behavior therapy, which we spoke about earlier on. but it is about embracing all that is without judging it.
00:24:55:15 – 00:25:25:17
Amanda
I love it, and I was so funny. I was noticing that sort of like I think of it as almost like a negativity bias. We just did a series of surveys to our community. So I was looking through all the all the feedback, most of it that, you know, 99% of it's so positive and beautiful. And then you have those I, I would see the few negative comments and it was like, you know, just and I had to coach myself like, don't give that any more weight than yes, take whatever you can from it.
00:25:25:17 – 00:25:57:20
Amanda
That's helpful. But don't discount all of the beautiful, amazing comments that were made. And it's just so amazing how we do that naturally. You know, the one negative thing just like pops out and then we just sort of like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. All the, all the amazing good things that are said. So I love that there's an actual way to help people reinforce looking at their strengths, reinforce looking at what they do really well, and like doubling down on those things.
00:25:57:22 – 00:26:00:08
Amanda
I think that I can see that being extremely valuable.
00:26:00:13 – 00:26:15:08
Catherine
I love the fact that you even brought up negative bias, because it is. I mean, you think that the brain's there to keep us safe, so it's good to look for anything that's, triggering us in any way, shape or form. So negative mindset. We have a negative mindset. We've been conditioned that way. I mean, there's fear all around us.
00:26:15:08 – 00:26:32:22
Catherine
Whether it's news, whether it's God, it's all around us, you know, but then it's about what do we do with it? And how do we do we react to what's around us or do we respond? And it's so true. Like, I see this in the corporate world. I know men and you've got background, you've got experience in in the corporate environment as well from a psychological aspect.
00:26:32:22 – 00:26:52:16
Catherine
But you say that when people get given whether it's mid or end of year review and they get given their feedback, they might have 20 positive things about that. But one thing, this is just the one thing you need to work on. And then we'll walk away and ruminate over that one thing rather than take that on. And that's that's what I call a fixed mindset.
00:26:52:16 – 00:27:09:13
Catherine
We get fixed. And so rather like my guy Deepak is a gift. And so what I what can I do with that? And that's what we do the economy. It's like okay this is the feedback I've got okay. So let's unpack it. Let's unpack it for you. What what does that mean for you and how do you feel and what are you experiencing?
00:27:09:13 – 00:27:18:07
Catherine
Where in your body are you experiencing this emotion? And then we unpack it. We talk to that that feeling, that experience, all that emotion.
00:27:18:09 – 00:27:31:12
Amanda
okay, so walk us through the program essentially what I'm gleaning from all of this to this conversation. And then the other conversations we've had is that you have this level to what does level two mean for the ICF accreditation?
00:27:31:15 – 00:28:05:17
Catherine
Yeah, sure. There's three levels. So there's ICC, there's PCC and MCC. So that's all they just basically the the the different levels is the offerings, these offerings that an academy would have. So even as a coach your accreditations are based on how many hours you have done. Yeah. So basically when you go through the academy you'll be certified at a PCC level, which means that, when you handing your certificate, your certificate to get your accreditation credits is just your hours, then you're at that level too.
00:28:05:23 – 00:28:15:07
Catherine
So that's all it is. It's just based on what the program looks like, but how it's been mapped out and what you offer. How many hours are you offering your students and what are you offering?
00:28:15:09 – 00:28:47:00
Amanda
Okay. So the quality of the program is is accredited certified. When you graduate, you actually have a certification to show and that your program is mainly based around this, the positive psychology. But then there's also this astrological component. And so if you're an astrology student, there's a little bit of a like a leg up in a way, because you already have that background and now you're, you're learning the coaching piece so you can bring it into your practice.
00:28:47:02 – 00:29:03:12
Amanda
Walk us through the program. Like what does it look like? How long does it take? What is the commitment? You know, how does someone actually do this? And then what's the result? What can they expect when they're done with the program? Do they will they be able to get a job. Will they be able to put this to use.
00:29:03:12 – 00:29:04:15
Amanda
How does that all work.
00:29:04:17 – 00:29:22:04
Catherine
Yeah sure. Great question. So first let me talk about the three different avatars that we have. So that means that we have some people that join us want to be a coach. Yep. Some people join the academy because for personal and professional development. And then another one, if they're a leader leading a team, they come and do the program.
00:29:22:04 – 00:29:50:17
Catherine
So there's three different types of avatars that we have within the academy. The program is a 12 months program. It's really seven modules. It gets released every six weeks. but some people do it less than 12 months, but we say 12 months. within that, what happens is you have seven modules that you work through. You have and what because we've got people from all over the world, we've got people from the US, UK, Australia, Japan.
00:29:50:19 – 00:30:15:02
Catherine
so we have what we have is, we've made sure that we've mapped out everything so that we can accommodate to the different time zones. So there's, once you're part of the program, you get broken up into groups of three. These are what you called your mentoring groups. and in that group, you're going to be together for that 12 months where you work on real life situation.
00:30:15:04 – 00:30:35:06
Catherine
So we say what goes on tour stays on tour. And beautiful magic happens in this space. This is where I say the the when I talk about insights and epiphanies and beautiful things happening within that space. Then there, there. Q&A is a coaching course. There's 24 of them. You can go to all of them, but you only need to do ten.
00:30:35:08 – 00:31:01:23
Catherine
and they're obviously for people based in us. It's like a Saturday. Well, it's your Friday afternoon and Saturday and then to the, to the other side of the world is during the week. there's also, we have an online community. So, Facebook and LinkedIn where we do, monthly, what they called on based on a topic that's linking to positive psychology.
00:31:01:23 – 00:31:25:10
Catherine
So it's anything to do that with what we've got in the, in the Academy, some of the, topics that we cover, we actually do that because we're really big on keeping up to date with the research as well, because you'll have access to a coaching library that has books, articles, videos, audios, everything. You have access to what's called a learning management system.
00:31:25:12 – 00:31:43:16
Catherine
And this is where you'll find your workbooks, your and your workbooks, be your theory books. And in the theory, understanding that everyone learns in different ways. So you can watch a video, audio. If you go for a walk or in the car, or those that are kinesthetic like me like to download it and highlight it, you can do that.
00:31:43:18 – 00:32:02:10
Catherine
so you've got access to your learning management system that is self-paced. So everything pretty much is self-paced. We've got masterclasses that you need to attend to as well. The only thing that's set in concrete is your ten mentoring classes. And once you broken into your groups of three, we look at what is the best time for that group.
00:32:02:10 – 00:32:26:09
Catherine
And we set the classes map, the map of the the, the period of 12 months. It's beautiful. Like, honestly, nobody fails. Everyone passes the program because, we've got beautiful assessors, we've got, buddies and even the what I'm finding is that even that the people that are part of the academy has started the external little group as well.
00:32:26:11 – 00:32:51:04
Catherine
So they catch up, together and they, got, like, help each other through their workbooks. Or if they've been assessed on a workbook, they really help each other. It's a beautiful community. Once they finish, they can come. We have a, coach and grow app. I know you have enough as well. So if they want to come and work for Rise and Thrive automatically, they come into the system and start coaching straight away.
00:32:51:06 – 00:33:09:13
Catherine
So if they want to, not everybody, because there are some coaches that want to start their own business and have their own platforms and they can do both. We have associates that have their own and come and work with us. yeah. But this pretty much in a nutshell, I hope I've explained it, as, as best as I could.
00:33:09:15 – 00:33:33:07
Amanda
Yes. Okay. So we're going to drop the link. It's astrology. It's astrology. have.com/coaching. And so we're going to put that in the show notes. And Catherine and her team have agreed to do a special kind of like get a taste of what the program is for our astrology community. So make sure you go to astrology ABC.com, slash coaching, and all the details are there.
00:33:33:07 – 00:33:55:12
Amanda
If you want to like, try it. But they are. You are starting a new cohort for our community on June 3rd, correct? Correct. June 3rd. So this would be an amazing opportunity. Again, if once you graduate, then you can join the Rise and Thrive Coaching app. And do most people that do that start working immediately? Like do they get.
00:33:55:14 – 00:33:57:24
Amanda
Yes. Opportunities right away straight away.
00:33:57:24 – 00:34:20:16
Catherine
So I just want to explain to a little bit what's different because we've just also, we reached out to some ICF credit coaches because we don't have enough coaches that that support the work that's coming in. one thing that I'd like to say is we're keeping our app very online. There's other coaching apps out there that I've spoken to other coaches where there's thousands of coaches and there's they're not getting the work.
00:34:20:22 – 00:34:36:19
Catherine
We're keeping it very limited for us because we want to make sure that everybody gets work. And so once you become part of that, the on the app, you can pick your own hours. And that's the beautiful you can set your own time that you're available. So some people could do part time or full time. It's up to them.
00:34:36:21 – 00:35:04:22
Amanda
Amazing. I mean, so I'm always looking for opportunities for astrology students to be able to put their love of astrology like to, to, to create a life where they get to immerse themselves in that as much as possible. Because I know, like when I fall in love with something, it's like, I just want to have this conversation, you know, I just want to be talking about astrology and, and and growth and, and and evolution and consciousness and all these things.
00:35:04:22 – 00:35:39:08
Amanda
So how can I create my world so that I get to be having that conversation all the time? And I know a lot of you are like that. It's like you want to be passionate about your work, and you want to be helping people with the thing that you love that has helped you. So this is such an amazing way to do that, to really marry your love of astrology with the ability to apply a framework that can help a wide range of people, whether or not they're interested in astrology, whether or not they even know anything about astrology.
00:35:39:10 – 00:35:59:06
Amanda
This is where it's like your knowledge of it will help you do a better job, but it will reach more people because they don't actually have to be for sure coming for the the astrology. And I just think it's a it's a beautiful opportunity for our community. And I'm so grateful that you approached me months ago and said, hey, I have this idea.
00:35:59:06 – 00:36:20:08
Amanda
I feel like you guys would be perfect for this. And it was one of those things that would when you brought it to me, I was like, oh, that's an amazing idea. Let's see if people are interested. And then we did one podcast episode and about 16, the people from astrology Hub joined a cohort, and I get to meet three of them here very shortly and, and introduce all of you to them on the podcast.
00:36:20:08 – 00:36:34:08
Amanda
But, I mean, why do you think, Catherine, that our community is thriving so much in this program? I mean, I know that everybody thrives in the program, but why do you think the Astrology Hub students in particular are doing so well?
00:36:34:10 – 00:36:51:18
Catherine
well, gosh, I think you'll hear from them themselves. Of course, I'm going to say it's because of their knowledge, one of Soji. But you don't need to. There's actually, a couple of people from Astrology Hub who are not who are just new to astrology. So they think full Astrology hub and, and so the, the astro coaching aspect are tools only.
00:36:51:18 – 00:37:16:00
Catherine
So we make that really clear. These are tools, online assessments and tools. And now I can tell you about it. For them it's changed the way they approach astrology. It's changed the way that they do a reading now. So they go in there, apply code instead of telling and they the results that they're getting from doing it, just asking questions about what's in their chart, because that's the area they want to work in.
00:37:16:02 – 00:37:41:01
Catherine
and it could be as simple as, I want to work on transformation, I want to work on relationship, you know, and so they could have a look at what's going in that space. But instead of telling, just get the person to tell the story of what's really happening by asking the question. And so they've had a really amazing lots of shifts, lots of shifts for them, applying it in their I mean, some of them having a store and a business, their astrologers, their readers, they, they have that as a business.
00:37:41:03 – 00:37:43:22
Catherine
So it's really changed their ways of working.
00:37:43:24 – 00:38:10:18
Amanda
You know, I've, I've spoken to a lot of astrologers through the years, and some of them talk about how they're they're good at reading the chart. They can read what the chart is saying, but when the person starts to ask them, well, how do I work on that? And how do I translate, you know, you know, transcend this blind spot or stop making the same mistake over and over and get myself out of this pattern or whatever it is.
00:38:10:20 – 00:38:38:17
Amanda
They don't feel equipped to help the person at that level because because that isn't always what astrology training is about. And so I love, again, this is just such a beautiful marriage of two very powerful tools. When put together, can absolutely transform people's lives and so, Catherine, thank you. I mean, just thank you for approaching me. Thank you for sharing your academy and the opportunity with our community.
00:38:38:22 – 00:38:59:21
Amanda
Thank you for offering some amazing ways for our particular community to get to know what you're doing even deeper, so they can know for sure if they want to make this level of commitment for their career. But for any of you who are out there and going, God, this sounds amazing, just make sure you go to astrology.com/coaching and Catherine and her team are so helpful.
00:39:00:01 – 00:39:13:15
Amanda
These are these are beautiful people who are totally committed to their mission and to helping their students. And so if you have questions and things like that, they're available for that. And anything else you want to share. Catherine, before we close up.
00:39:13:17 – 00:39:32:17
Catherine
No, I want to say thank you. I was just saying also, like, I honestly love the fact that, we've got Astrology Hub students in the academy. It's really changed the dynamic and, and some of the conversations. And I've actually learned a lot myself from them. So as much as I'm sharing knowledge, I've actually learned so much. It's been amazing.
00:39:32:17 – 00:39:50:11
Catherine
So it's, it's wonderful. It really is. And I do see a perfect match. It's just I can see them work really well hand in hand. But you'll hear it from them, the students themselves soon. And, I just want to say thank you for allowing this partnership to take place. It's been wonderful.
00:39:50:13 – 00:40:08:01
Amanda
okay. Well, Catherine, thank you so much for being here. Thank you for tuning in to those of you out there listening or watching, thank you for being a part of our community. Thank you for making astrology a part of your life, and maybe even making coaching a part of your life as well. And I can't wait to connect with you on the next episode.
00:40:08:02 – 00:40:28:11
Amanda
If you are interested, be on the lookout for the podcast episode we're going to release in a few days, where I'll be interviewing three astrology Hub. Community members who are part of the astrology have cohort going through the Rise and Thrive Coaching Academy, so you'll get to hear directly from them. But their experiences, what they're getting out of the program.
00:40:28:17 – 00:40:34:24
Amanda
So make sure you tune into that, and we'll look forward to catching up with you on the next episode. Take care of you, everyone.