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What if the veil between worlds isn’t as solid as we’ve been taught to believe?
In this deeply comforting and expansive conversation, Suzanne Giesemann returns to the Astrology Hub Podcast to explore what exists beyond physical reality and how we can cultivate greater connection with the unseen realms while still living fully human lives. From soul families and life reviews to grounding during times of collective intensity, Suzanne shares practical tools for finding peace, coherence, and deeper trust in the midst of uncertainty.
In this conversation, Suzanne also guides us through a powerful meditation for resonance and connection – reminding us that even in times of great change, we are never separate from love, guidance, or each other.
If you’d like to explore these practices more deeply with Suzanne, you can check out her Beyond the Veil course here:
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🎬 IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL HEAR:
00:00 — What Life Is Like Beyond the Veil
11:03 — The Life Review: Feeling the Impact of Your Actions
15:06 — Resonance, Coherence & Connecting Beyond the Physical
18:30 — Grounding During Times of Intensity & Change
28:04 — How to Find Peace in the Midst of Uncertainty
31:17 — Soul Families, Reincarnation & Shared Lifetimes
36:25 — Expanding Your Energetic Capacity & Awareness
39:36 — Suzanne’s New Book: Always Connected
43:04 — Guided Meditation for Resonance & Inner Peace
51:22 — Final Message: “You Are So Very Loved”
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Suzanne’s new book Always Connected: https://suzannegiesemann.com/books/
Connect with Suzanne: https://suzannegiesemann.com/
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Suzanne Giesemann is a spiritual leader, best-selling author, and award-winning documentarian recognized on Watkins’ list of the 100 Most Spiritually Influential Living People. In 2024, she was awarded the prestigious Humanity’s Team Spiritual Leadership Award, which has only been given 11 times since 2006. Past recipients of this award include Archbishop Desmond Tutu and Nelson Mandela (posthumously).
A former Navy Commander with a master’s degree in National Security Affairs, Suzanne served as a commanding officer and aide to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. She now guides people to live consciously connected and divinely guided lives through her teachings, workshops, and retreats.
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“The only thing disconnecting us from spirit is incoherence.” – Suzanne Giesemann
Transcript
Amanda: Well, hello everybody. Welcome to the Astrology Hub podcast. Today, we have a guest who is becoming very quickly an Astrology Hub favorite. We have with us a spiritual teacher, medium, author of 16 bestselling books, former Navy commander with a master's degree in national security affairs.
So someone with a background that doesn't always end up with the many gifts that she is here to share with us today. And what we're gonna—we're gonna continue this conversation we've been having about multidimensional communication: what that means, how we do it, what cultivating this skill can bring to our life.
And Suzanne, I just wanna welcome you back to our podcast and begin with some of the questions that literally since our last conversation, I've been wanting to ask.
Suzanne: Oh, that's great. That's great. Thanks, Amanda. And hi, everybody. Good to be back.
What's it Like Beyond the Veil?
Amanda: All right. So, and actually this one comes from my love. My love and I were talking about this question of what are those beyond the veil doing? Like, what is their reality like? Are they in heaven with harps? Are they… just observing us and, like, influencing this realm? Do they have their own place they're going to? What does their day-to-day reality look like? Do they even have days? Like, what is it like beyond the veil?
Suzanne: Yeah, that—that's funny, that question because I—I believe my YouTube video with the highest number of views is that one that answers that question: “What are our loved ones doing in the afterlife?” And I answer that from a place of evidence—that all of my work, because of that Navy background, has a taste of evidence in everything that I share, meaning I'm not gonna talk theoretically.
This is what happened in a reading. This is what somebody told me that was validated. And those across the veil have told me they're doing what they want to do. They're—they're creating with consciousness just like we do here. And so we are all aspects of joy, Source. That's my word for God. The Source is joy.
So we are all aspects of joy, expressing ourselves in physical bodies here through our stories. You're living a story, right? So am I. We all have, in physical form, beginning, middle, and end—a narrative. They connect like a pearl, a string of pearls, all these moments in our lives. Well, we continue the story across the veil as we like.
You become much more aware that we're souls living stories across the veil. And it really does make sense to continue that story when we realize we still have that connection with our loved ones here. So we're not gonna dissolve into nothing or back into just beings of light across the veil, as long as there are people here who can benefit from hearing from us, being inspired by us across the veil, and feeling our presence to help them through their lives.
So that's a big part of what they're doing across the veil, is checking in on the people they love, inspiring us with their thoughts, because we—we'll think of a loved one, and we think we're thinking of them, but many times it's because they're right here with us saying, “I'm here. It's all gonna be okay. I love you.” That kind of thing.
Amanda: Is most of their awareness then focused on life here, or do they have other realms that they're exploring in this new form that they're in?
Suzanne: That is the other realm. It's—it's an expanded state of consciousness. We can differentiate realms into realities, but just like your dream state is—you could call it a realm. It's really a different state of consciousness. So once we no longer have this body, but we're still holding onto the story, that's a different realm, a different state of consciousness that's much more expanded and open because we don't have this body acting as a filter.
Amanda: This is just so fascinating because it's—it—it seems so simple of like, well, well, what—what is everybody doing over there? Like what—what is their life, what does reality look like for them? Is there as much of a range in—in the experiences over there as there's a—a range of experiences on—on this earth?
Suzanne: My guides just said not nearly as tumultuous. I love that word. And that's a relief, I'm sure, to all of us to hear that because we don't have the body with its chemicals and hormones causing us to react. We're aware that we are pure beings of love, light—as corny as that sounds—and we understand that everything is simply an experience in awareness.
So whereas here, we get locked and trapped into the story, across the veil, we're consciously aware that this too shall pass and we feel the love. I do wanna say that how much you awaken while having a body—in other words, how much you come to understand we're souls living a story—does depend on how much more expansive your experience is across the veil.
Some people cling so tightly to the story, they realize that they're no longer in a body, but they—they still wanna live the story very badly. And so it's—it's not badly, it's more like an urge. And so all beings are surrounded by higher beings, guides or angels, that guide them to realize you can—you can loosen your grip on the story.
But what a world we'd live in if we realized that now; we can loosen our grip on the story. That's how you find peace. So it's a much more peaceful existence across the veil, but I just remember my own mother, I couldn't sense her at first, and I had the wonderful experience of crossing to be with her shortly after she passed.
And she was in, like, a healing place, kind of like the hospice where she passed. She was unconscious when she passed, like many people do who pass of old age. And there she was just lying in this bed, and I could tell she was just like, “I'm not ready to wake up yet.” And she was as peaceful as could be. And then next thing you know, I communicated with her and she's playing bridge across the veil, you know? She's happy.
Amanda: Do they have aspiration? Like, uh, is—is there a—a desire to… is there an evolutionary impulse? Are they building things? Are they, like, are they graduating to different levels of consciousness?
Suzanne: That's—that is—yeah. The guides are saying it's all about the evolution. And when you realize that the story is a great vehicle for growth, but the greatest growth is simply dropping the story and saying, “I'm joy and expression. How can we bring more love into our world?” And so there comes a time when you don't need to play golf or play bridge anymore, and you will continue to drop in on your loved ones, but it's really all about learning from the masters and choosing work that will inspire others, such as scientists and musicians are still inspiring scientists here for great discoveries and musical compositions here that will bring joy into our world.
Amanda: Is our world just this world? Or—or, like, are there other worlds that they might be bringing inspiration to?
Suzanne: Oh, let me check on that one. The guides say that it's a lineage. As long as you've just come from a human story, you're gonna continue that lineage. But since it's all joy, you can do quantum leaps and jump to different experiences of different realities, but you wouldn't carry the story with you.
Amanda: Hmm.
Suzanne: Yeah.
Amanda: Hmm. Wow.
Suzanne: That's starting to, uh, blow people's minds here. It's because it's hard to—for us to wrap our minds around the—the expansiveness that's available. The limitless nature of consciousness is phenomenal. You can experience that here though in expanded states of consciousness, in meditation.
Amanda: Hmm. And so you just—you mentioned something. The more expanded we become in the body, the more expansive our experience beyond the veil.
Suzanne: That's right. Because what you're doing is you're bypassing the body's normal filters that keep our—I call it very narrow bandwidth, right? Especially if, for example, when you're in physical pain, where's your focus? On that pain. And you just block out everything else around you. So the pain goes away, and now you're more aware of things, your—your family members, and you can start having better experiences here, but we just keep experiencing in meditation beyond even the body.
And you realize you can tap into guidance, insights, and experiences, just like in a dream state, that will help you. Why do it if it's not helpful? Uh, for fun? Yeah, we can do that for fun.
Amanda: Hmm. So there are just things for pure fun.
Suzanne: Absolutely. But I love it when you can take a challenge into meditation, such as, “Why did that just trigger me? Show me.” And my guides once said, “You will want to take a spirit animal with you.” And so I said, “Well, what animal will help me?” And I was shown an owl, and the owl just kind of grabbed me by the shoulders and held me up so I'd be—I'd feel supported and was going higher and off we went and it showed me this instance with my mother, and we went back in time and healed that. And when I came out of the meditation, I was no longer triggered.
Amanda: Hmm. Do they have guides? So are there layers of guides that, you know, they might become guides to us here, do they also have guides? Is there any sort of, like, hierarchical sort of guidance ladder?
Suzanne: Those in—in the non-physical forms don't like to think in terms of hierarchy. So it's more, uh, ex- again, the expanded awareness and access to higher wisdom. So you have a spirit guide that's assigned to you from life, and when you sleep, it's kind of like they get a breather. They don't have to pay so much attention, but they're actually working with you at the soul level while you're sleeping.
And then once you cross the veil, we still work together for a while. They look and they say, “What did you bring back with you?” You know, let's look at your life, let's review it. So they're working with you during that life review and helping you to continue to grow, but there comes a point my guides are showing me when it's like you no longer need that guide and maybe you'll be ready to go back and have another go-round that's called reincarnation.
Life Review: Feeling What You Gave Others
Amanda: Hmm. Can we talk about the life review a little bit? What is that—what is that like?
Suzanne: I've heard this, I've read it, but the souls across the veil have told me this and shown me this: that it's like watching a 3D movie, but you see all these moments of your life, most of them having to do with interactions with others when you affected someone else, both positively and not so positively. The thing is, you feel the effects of your interactions. So that time when you said something nice to somebody, a stranger that—that you thought was just inconsequential, you see how that actually changed the course of their life. That time that you let somebody go ahead of you in line in the grocery store, you see how that changed them, what a difference those little moments make.
But then also anytime that you said unkind things, you feel that just as if you were back there, but you're the recipient of it this time. And I've had very few cases of people that did truly hurtful—truly hurtful acts—and they said that they felt the full brunt of it and they came to say they're sorry.
So it's—it's a helpful thing. Yeah. But I say if we can do our own life review when we lie down to go to sleep every night, that will help us live much more consciously and then the life review at the end of this incarnation will be much easier. It's not punishment. Nobody's judging us when we go through that. The guides are just sitting there lovingly, supporting us. It's all on us.
But if anybody feels afraid of that right now, like, “Oh my God, I've done some things. I feel guilty.” Just ask for forgiveness from those in spirit right now. They'll hear you. Make your amends now with those still here because then you won't need to find a medium to do it. And that's the—the most healing readings I have are when those in spirit come in and I see their head hanging down, and that means there's an apology here.
And I'll ask them—not my client, I'll ask the spirit—”Why are you apologizing?” And they'll say, and it's just, boom, hits the mark, and now we know that they're lighter across the veil. They got to say what they needed. It helps those here. So say your “I'm sorrys.”
Amanda: Hmm. And that's atonement, yes? I mean, that's the—the concept of atonement.
Suzanne: Sure.
Amanda: Right?
Suzanne: Yeah.
Amanda: Okay. Wow. Fascinating. So the life review at the end of each day would look very similar to what you just described.
Suzanne: Yeah. I would go through the day and say, “Well, there was…” We just traveled from Arizona to Idaho and we took our dogs with us on—on two flights and there was a big delay and it—it got very stressful with the dogs. And I said to my husband yesterday, I said, “There were a couple moments there I was really bitchy and I recognized that. I'm really sorry.” And in my mind, I was thinking, “Yeah, and you had some too,” to my husband. But I—but the voice inside said, “Don't say that.” And he reached over and he patted me and he said, “That's okay, honey. I did too. It's all good. We're both in the same situation.” So it was really cool. It was all… you know, I just—I did my little life review there on the spot. But if at night you can think, “Did I get kinda bitchy with somebody today? I'm gonna apologize tomorrow.” And boy, there was a moment there where I could have, but I actually caught myself and said something loving. That was really good. So you see, you find the balance. We're not—we—we'll never achieve perfection. It's not about perfection. It's about awareness and choosing more expanded options.
Amanda: Hmm.
Suzanne: Yeah.
Resonance & Coherence
Amanda: Hmm. Okay. So anyone out there who wants to have access to the other realms, who wants to be able to speak with such certainty like you do because you've had experience, because you have enough evidence in your lived reality to know these things to be true, not just theorize them to be true, right? There's one thing—you have a—you have a class that you teach and what—it's called “Beyond the Veil,” is that—
Suzanne: “Beyond the Veil.”
Amanda: “Beyond the Veil.” Okay. And—and anybody who's interested in taking it, we'll put a link in the show notes. But in the very first module, you talk about resonance. You talk about getting into resonance in order to be able to communicate beyond the veil. Can you talk to us a little bit about resonance and why that matters?
Suzanne: Uh, I—I wanna share that—that—that module you're talking about is a—is available for free, just as a preview of the whole course. There are only seven modules, but when I watch that again—I started watching it before I do readings, that 10-minute module—because it so inspired me, like, this is what it's all about. That's all I need right there to connect with spirit is realizing the only thing that disconnects us from spirit is being incoherent, not in a coherent state. So it's coherence and resonance working together. So we know what it feels like to be incoherent. So coherence means you create stability and openness.
You have to make sure—you don't have to do anything the guides say—it will really be in your best interest to believe that this is possible for anyone. And I did not grow up seeing spirits. I had no belief in the afterlife, so trust me, it—it's possible because we're all souls. So knowing that with that belief, sit daily for just a few minutes and take some nice deep breaths and affirm, “I am a soul, having a human experience,” or anything that helps you get centered and coherent.
Now, you can come into resonance with other beings across the veil. This—this is a two-way interaction. You're not just tapping into data or trying to pick up on some being. You're inviting them into your awareness, and they can't come into your awareness unless you are coherent and resonate with their energy.
So that's why we might not be able to communicate with somebody who immediately after they passed. If somebody, uh, wasn't expecting at the human level to pass in a car accident, for example, they might be a little bit incoherent at first, but then as the angels surround them and they say, “Oh, it's okay. Look, there are my loved ones. I can communicate with them,” they'll come into coherence and they have that natural resonance with you because you've shared a life.
Amanda: Mm.
Suzanne: So coherence and resonance—we create those states.
Amanda: Hmm.
Grounding During Shifting Elements
Amanda: One of the things with the astrology happening right now is that we're moving from a period of time that was dominated by the earth and the water elements. We're shifting—we're in the middle of this big shift from earth and water to fire and air. And so there's a lot of volatility, there's a lot of electricity, there's a lot of interfere… there's a lot of, uh, potentially incoherent, but just a lot of information and a lot of overwhelm on the nervous system.
Suzanne: Yes. Yes.
Amanda: And so have you noticed that it's harder to get centered, it's harder to get into resonance, or that it takes more effort to stay grounded? Are you experien—I know you're not as clued into the astrological reasoning behind some of these things, but I'm just curious if you're experiencing that or your students are experiencing that, uh, collectively.
Suzanne: Well, there's no doubt we're all experiencing that. And in fact, I reached out to a dear friend who's an astrologer and I said, “What is going on? There's gotta be some planetary influence here.” And she assured me that there was and—and showed me several sources that I read up on and said, “Well, that explains a lot, but also look at what's going on in your individual life and be a little bit more compassionate for yourself, right?”
I just went through a—a very taxing period of physical challenges and even having my, um, face cut on for Mohs surgery with a giant incision just five weeks ago that's healed beautifully. But I think when you get carved up and you have other people working very closely in your field, that can be disturbing.
And then my husband and I both had the same, uh, illness and that activated another illness in him. So lots of stress at the human level. That's why I've really come to notice that, uh, oh yeah, right, my God s—it's paying attention to when you're connected versus not connected. I finally, uh, realized this—something's not working here because I did two readings in a row and I couldn't sense the spirits.
And that is—it's not only disappointing, it's very awkward. People have been waiting for a reading and I certainly couldn't make these connections up at all. You either sense them or there's nothing here. And it's like—there's nothing here. But the—the key is the spirits are here. There's something in the field that's blocking the awareness.
And it was my field. And I said to my guides, “What's going on?” And they reminded me I was on two different medications for two other little physical things, and they said, “You're working too hard, too.” I never—I never took a break through all of that except for a couple days while I looked ridiculous with big old bandages across my face, right? But, uh, so I just finished a—a six-day break. Today's my first interview after no interviews, no readings, no meetings,
Amanda: Hmm.
Suzanne: —and that coherence is back. And I did a reading this morning, and the human side says, “Oh my God, please don't give me three in a row with no connection.” But it was right there because I acknowledged a week ago, I'm overloaded. So did it help to have the planets doing what they're doing? Probably not, but the first key is being aware that we're out of balance and giving yourself time and space to just be. We can dive into that if you'd like.
Amanda: I would love that. I would love that. And also, I would love if you could guide us in a similar sort of process that you do in that module to actually get into coherence or resonance.
Suzanne: Yeah, this is the key, and it—it goes hand in hand with what I said, if we could dive into that a little more. The key is realizing you're not only human. I call that “The Awakened Way,” that you are a soul, but the soul is still a story. What's beyond all thought, all stories, all feelings, there is, I'll call it the base state. All of us share that base state. That is pure being. It doesn't change, it's not a thing, it's not a person, it's pure awareness. Everything else is what I call the overlay, and we have overlays that are open and overlays that are constricted. Those are the two human states. So even the soul is an overlay on the base state.
So in that first module of “Beyond the Veil,” we simply just pause long enough and take a few breaths and drop awareness, move it out of the head. We're not stuck behind our eyes—this is where most of the sensory input's coming in. We're not stuck there. We can just pretend there's an elevator shaft here and just slide down into the heart.
If everybody just puts your hands on your heart for just a minute, there's this big “Ah” that happens when you do that. This big sense of relief. And you can keep your hands there, but this—just move down a little more. No, the guides say take your hands away because that's holding your focus there. Put your hands just below the navel on the belly.
This is called the hara. It's the center of soul awareness at the very center of you. This is where you can become most grounded. Just take a deep breath and exhale, “Ah,” and just rest right there in the hara and there, for about two seconds, you just experience pure being, pure awareness beyond the thoughts.
And then, you know, if we'd stayed there a little longer, the story would kick back in, but the more you can drop down to the hara—being aware of the heart at the same time—and just experience that stillness. That base state is what most of us get too far away from. It's the blue sky and everything else is clouds, weather passing through the sky. That blue sky is always here. And so while I was not well and going through surgery and all those other things, I became so focused on the overlay that I identified with all of that and forgot I am the light of awareness. I am the base state. And it's like—my—my new book, Always Connected, has these conversations with Joy.
I can't make them happen. They happen when I'm in my most coherent state, and I had my first one in a couple months just two days ago, and I had another one this morning. There's nothing like that feeling where the closest thing to Joy speaks to me. And we have these conversations. It's so helpful, so loving, and yet even that is an overlay on the base state.
Amanda: Wow.
Suzanne: So get to know that stillness, and then you can find peace in a moment, and you can find insights in the moment by dropping into that. Notice I didn't say, “Go out here, leave your body, have an out-of-body experience.” It's right here. This—you are the center of the universe, but not the story. A point of light in a whole sky of lights.
Amanda: Mm. I love that when you realized you were not in your center, you realized you needed to stop, and you took the time for yourself. What did you do during those six days of rest or not do during those six days?
Suzanne: I noticed… “Oh, I need to check this computer.” No, I know—I don't need to check my email. I noticed my language. My husband and I took a couple field trips. We—we'd been in Arizona and near Tucson for four months and had not yet gone to the top of Mount Lemmon, which we can see from our house. So we took the whole day with the dogs, went to Mount Lemmon, and I just enjoyed being.
I didn't fill it with all kinds of stuff, but I also didn't just sit around. It was just… I would tap in moment by moment: “What's the best thing to do right now?” And I enjoyed not having to do anything.
Amanda: Hmm.
Suzanne: Yeah.
Amanda: That, again—I mean, with—with the state of—the—the energetic state of the world and the overwhelm that people are feeling and the disconnect from themselves, it seems like one of the—one of the best pathways to getting reconnected is that simple.
Suzanne: They just snagged me, the guides, because they gave us a very practical tool just this morning in my daily message. I'd love to share it with—
Amanda: Yes,
How to Find Peace
Suzanne: Yeah. Um, I get these daily messages every time when I sit down. It's not coming from Joy—that's these really amazingly deep conversations. This is my guide, Sanaya, that just give us, like, this one-paragraph inspirational message that's on my Awaken Way app. So this one's on the app, but they said, “This is a practical tool for finding peace.” They said, “How do you find peace?” And that word “how” is the key.
And it's so funny because so much of my teaching uses acronyms, and right away as I'm typing, I knew they're about to… this is a new acronym. I'd never heard it before. They created it. So the H is… hang on, guys, was the hara, but it… Oh, here, right. So put your hand on the hara, the belly, and just state aloud or silently, “Here.” And that's an—we're—going for peace, right? That's an acknowledgement that here is the center, here is where I tap into guidance, but here is something deeper than the “I” that's living this story, right here.
And when you say “here,” all of a sudden you can't fret about the past. You're not worried about the future because you're here, and here's where peace is. So that's the H. And then O: keep your hand on the hara but put the other hand on the heart and say silently or aloud, “Open.” Most people are guarding themselves emotionally and physically. When you say “open,” you're giving your permission to feel safe.
You can feel the relaxing that takes place in your energy body and in your physical body. So, here, and it's not “here I am,” it's just here, aware, being here and open. And the W: raise awareness up to the third eye, this energy center in the center of the skull, and feel wondrous.
Amanda: Mm.
Suzanne: And that—that is an acknowledgement that we're connected to just all possibilities. Feel like a little child, they said, and be open to what can come in now that we're here and open and expecting wondrous things to happen. It's like a little recipe. I mean, I was thinking W would be wisdom, but that takes us right back to thinking.
Amanda: Oh. Yeah.
Suzanne: And we overthink and that gets us back in the head. So just be here, open, in a state of wonder. Isn't that great?
Amanda: I love it so much, Suzanne. And it's—it is the way that I feel when I remember to look up at the stars.
Suzanne: Hmm.
Amanda: When I go outside at night and just look up, it's wonder. Yes. And it's that pure—it's that pure innocent, like, wow, in awe of whatever that is.
Suzanne: Yeah, the mystery. This is… yeah. We'll never really know all of it. Even when we cross the veil, there'd be more and more and more. That's—that's the wonder.
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Soul Families
Amanda: You know, I hear a lot about, um, like soul families and, you know, groups of—of spirits that travel together and incarnate together and kind of go in and out of incarnation. Is that real?
Suzanne: It's very real. In fact, uh, I—I'm looking up at a little trinket that's on a sh- display shelf where I can see it that I haven't seen in the six months since I've been here. And it's so precious to me because my stepdaughter, Susan, who passed, struck by lightning… Now I knew I was gonna bring that up because this is a necklace with a Fulgurite in it. Do you know what a Fulgurite is?
Amanda: Oh.
Suzanne: It's sand that was struck by lightning and forms a tube. Yeah. And we talk about this in my documentary, Wolf's Message. Fulgurite, but it's—it's a very powerful thing to wear. But Susan was struck by lightning. And there was a day when I was in England studying mediumship when Susan appeared to me so clearly, and she looked and she pointed at this tree and she said, “That tree died the way I did.”
And it—it—it was a dead tree. And I said, “Struck by lightning?” She said, “Yeah, you'll find out.” And I said, “Susan, were we together in another lifetime?” And she said, “Yes, I was your mother.” Which just sounds ridiculous. That's so hard for me to believe, right? But yet, something struck me. And I said, “Was that that lifetime we had in Russia?”
‘Cause I'd received evidence about a lifetime, historical evidence that I found online from my guide. She said, “That was it.” Well, I said, “All right, if you were my mother in that lifetime in Russia, what sign are you gonna give me?” And she put in my mind's eye a pink Fabergé egg, like from Russia, right? Well, I'm in London, so I don't know how I'm ever gonna see one of those, but I thanked her.
I went back into the school building there where I was studying, and there was the groundskeeper, and I went up to him and I said, “That tree out there, that dead one, what happened to that?” And he said, “Oh, it was struck by lightning.” So the next day I left the school, I was at Gatwick Airport at a hotel waiting for a flight the next morning, and I sensed Susan. She said, “Go into the lobby of the hotel and just practice noticing people. It's a good skill for mediumship. Like, if you notice somebody glance away, what do you remember about them, so that you—you—you work on expanding your awareness?”
So I go out to the lobby and Susan says, “Stop. Look to your left.” I'm not kidding you, just like this, I looked to my left and there's the hotel gift shop, and on the shelf is a little pink Fabergé egg. In London, why? I don't know, but that's what I have on the shelf. It was this cheap little thing, right? It's just a trinket. But you asked, do we ha—are they members of our soul family? And it's sitting right in front of her picture up there. I have no doubt that we've been around and around and around. And in this lifetime, she came in knowing she was not gonna live a full life and I was gonna have this career that would help people say, “Well, that woman's not a flake. Maybe I can pay attention to this because I know in my heart it's—”
Amanda: Mm. Yes. You do. You bring that so beautifully. And she was the opening for that.
Suzanne: Abso—it never would've happened. She was my… oof, goosebumps. Wake-up call is what it was. So I tell people, “Does somebody have to die before you have a wake-up call?” Your soul already knows why you're here: to live life fully, but not to get caught up in the story.
So now I can be bitchy as I travel with my dogs in an airport and not be hard on myself to say, “Hey, that's part of the fullness of life, but it wasn't that fun flying with the dogs,” you know? And it's—it's never gonna be perfect. We came here for the fullness of it—the ups and the downs—and that's gonna include people we love dying.
Building Energetic Capacity
Amanda: Hmm.
Suzanne: It's all weather.
Amanda: Hmm. One of the things with Uranus moving into Gemini, which is one of the big astrological transits of this moment… Uranus has been in Taurus for seven years, and it just moved into Gemini where it will be for another seven years, and Uranus itself is lightning. It's the electricity. It's the… it is that lightning bolt of—of energy that, like, everything's different after that lightning strikes. There's the before and after, right? So it's that kind of change. It's that kind of “aha,” like, that kind of insight, that kind of life trajectory altering sort of archetypal energy. And then it's in Gemini now.
So it went from Taurus, which is earth—which is slower and, you know, more grounded—into Gemini, which is very fast and—connecting. And so you have both of these very electrical kind of… you have an electrical planet filtering its broadcast through an electrical sign. And so one of the things I've been thinking about a lot is this grounding rod: how each one of us is becoming a grounding rod for that—that much energy to be able to move through. And something about your necklace with the sand and the—and everything was re—was reminding me of that—that we can actually use this physical vessel to become more capable, expand our capacity to hold increasing amounts of energy.
Suzanne: That's—that—that's the path. And I've been doing this for 18 years now and channeling my guides, and it takes a lot of energy. And you can—and—and you can improve that. We call it “building the power.” And sitting in meditation helps with that, and communicating with guides, asking them to bring in their energy for you—you can access more of that. It's, again, not about going out of the body, but embodying the light that you are.
Amanda: Mm. Hmm. Whenever I have a night where I don't sleep well—I, or—or my daughters, or, you know, someone doesn't sleep well—I always ask for—for energy to come from a different place, because it's not gonna come from my great night of sleep that day, but can it still come just—you know, from—from beyond what I can see here, right?
Suzanne: It's limitless. It is. Yeah.
Amanda: So—
Suzanne: I recorded a—a—at—at my student's request, a recording called “Sleep Comes Easily.” So pretty soon that'll be a gift free on my website. I'm not sure when it'll be up, but not too long from now.
Amanda: I love that. I mean, and—and I think a lot of people are having disrupted sleep. Again, with all this energy, it's—and it's not surprising, you—
Suzanne: Yeah. And so I channeled that spontaneously from the guides, and it's all about managing the energy to the best of our ability.
New Book: Always Connected
Amanda: Nice. I will definitely be looking forward to that one. It's good. You told us a little bit about your book, Always Connected, and this is just out or about to be out in June, correct?
Suzanne: June 2nd, yeah. We're running some nice promotions on my website for it, but I'm very excited because I got to narrate it in—in a studio for the Audible version, and to relive the book was really cool. And I—I made a reel about this on—in the moment in the—in the studio because I had to stop myself from saying, “Wow.”
Even though the words came through me, you know, I was like, “Wow.” And then when I finished one of the—the discussions with Joy, I actually knocked on the window to the sound engineer and said, “Did that feel really powerful to you too?” It's just—that's the energy this book has. It's really kind of deep, this book. It'll really cause people to examine their beliefs and what is—what is their reality, but that's the goal.
Amanda: Mm. I love—
Suzanne: Get outside the box.
Amanda: Yes. Yes. Yes. Uranus is way outside the box too. So there's like, you know, there's all these… the astrological energies are supporting very new things for all of us, you know, really new directions, really new, saying yes to—to very new experiences, things we could barely even or if even imagine before. And I think one of the things is—is for some people out there might be going in the direction of what you are doing and what you are teaching and how are you—how you are opening or helping people cultivate their own gift to open to—
Suzanne: Yeah.
Amanda: —experience more consciousness.
Suzanne: And that's what it is. It's cultivation, because we can go on living as we've been going—and how's that going for you, right? Or we can find that peace that is so accessible. And when you get knocked off balance and find yourself not being yourself, say, “Ah, there's a better way: The Awakened Way.”
Yeah, speaking of the lightning strike and all of this, I learned all about who we are through this young man named Wolf. Have we discussed him on the show?
Amanda: A little bit, but not much.
Suzanne: Yeah. Well, the documentary based on my book Wolf's Message is any day now gonna be airing live… uh, not live, free on a streaming platform called Tubi, which, uh, yeah.
Amanda: I've heard of it. Yeah.
Suzanne: That will… his story of being struck and killed by lightning and leaving a note beforehand that he knew it would happen and what would happen afterwards will really help get people out of the box. That's why I bring it up there because it's… you can't watch that without saying “wow” several times, at least.
Amanda: Wow. I'm saying wow now.
Suzanne: Yeah. The “wow” that's coming. Yes.
Amanda: Anything else you wanna tell us about the class that you're—that you teach? So we—we went through a little bit through what you get in the first module.
Suzanne: Yes. I have a—a lot of classes, um, that I've given and that are available, but this one is—I call it just much more experiential. It's easy to take because it's just a nice series of modules that are easy to digest, and each one has a little practice in it so that you experience what I'm sharing—not, it's not just theory. That's what I like so much about this one.
Amanda: Mm. Suzanne, can we end with a guided meditation to get us into resonance potentially with the other realms?
Guided Meditation
Suzanne: Yeah, absolutely. It's very simple. Let's do that. Okay. So we're gonna start with that intention. Always start a meditation with an intention, and it's to just feel our access here now, instantly available at any time to experience that. So just sit down anything you're holding and put aside any distractions and close your eyes for a moment and begin with a nice, slow vagus nerve breath by breathing in through your nose to my count.
One, two, three, four. Exhale through the mouth like an “ah”—one, relaxing; two, more and more; three, letting go of stress; four, letting go of tension; five, feeling totally relaxed; six. And just acknowledging how much more relaxed you feel right now after just a longer exhale than the inhale. And with the understanding that there's so much more to you beneath the surface, bring to awareness the analogy that consciousness—your true nature—is like a sea, a vast ocean. And for a while, you, as one expression of consciousness—a soul—chose to incarnate in your beautiful body, this beautiful vessel that is consciousness. It's not just a vehicle; it is divine. With appreciation for this divine vessel for the soul, see that body and the mind as waves on the surface of that ocean, interacting continuously with other souls in human form.
All of you waves that either resonate or don't resonate. You feel that when you come into connection with others. And those waves can get a bit choppy, but happily, you are not only at the surface level because you are a being of light—because you are one aspect, one wave within the entire sea. Just allow yourself to loosen the grip for a bit on the story. Allow that wave to keep lapping at the shore, at the surface level, but sink down and down to different layers, thermal layers of that sea, and the farther you sink down, perhaps you'll meet loved ones along the way at another time as you do this. But for now, know that all beings with whom you've resonated in the past are accessible to you. As you sink deeper in the sea of consciousness, leaving the choppy waves behind, acknowledge what the soul knows: that higher beings are available to you in this sea of consciousness, and you are meeting them as you drop lower and deeper in this sea of consciousness. And in this bottomless bottom where you find yourself now, just like the center of your physical being, the center of consciousness is very much like the center of a whirlpool.
Very calm, no waves. Simply rest here for a moment, feeling the peace, feeling the awareness that all of those layers you just descended through grant you access to any guidance you need, here at the center of you that is the center of all that is, that is the same in all other centers, trusting that guidance is always here. Ask the simple question: “What do I need to know right now?”
And in that moment, something arose in awareness—could have been a thought or an image—and it could be something you already knew, but you asked from the center of you. You asked from a place of trust and stillness and coherence. And before we come back up to the surface where things can get a little choppy, ask beings who are helping you on your journey: “What sign will you send me in the coming days to show me I am not journeying alone? Show me now.” And just like that, an image or a word popped into awareness. Feel a bit of joy in your heart at knowing this image, this sign will wondrously come into awareness in the coming days, and be sure to express gratitude when it does and to affirm that from this state of being aware, awareness here now, you experienced this connection and the soul says, “Ah.”
And now you could drift slowly back up, but the state of being human is instantly accessible, as is this state of peace. No process is necessary to set aside the overlay and experience your being, your base state. So for now, taking this peace back with you to waking human awareness, put a little smile on your face, feel the gratitude for this experience in a nice breath and instantly back.
Amanda: Was just amazing. Thank you.
Suzanne: Cool.
Amanda: Wow. I had a person pop in and I felt like it was “I need to get in contact with this person,” but it was really clear. It's like, whoa, that's—
Suzanne: Okay. And—and you're gonna have to let us know what happens when you do, because it'll be wondrous.
Amanda: I will let you know. Amazing. If any of you also wanna share anything that came in for you during that meditation, it'd be fun to see in the comments. So it is always such a delight to be here with you, Suzanne. Thank you. I feel like they're becoming, like, “Conversations with Suzanne”—just these fun, rich, wisdom-filled experiences, and I just—I love it.
Final Thoughts
Amanda: Uh, is there anything else that you or your guides would wanna leave this community with as we close out?
Suzanne: And—and it's simply… uh, it's gonna change anytime you ask, but in the moment here, from me and from the guys, it's truly: trust you are so very loved. This is what they end their daily messages with. And I've had friends that say, “I just can't believe that,” because the story told you that. Don't believe anything you or any other overlay put on top of the base state.
The base state is total connection and where there's no separation—that's love. That's why God is love. God is joy. That is why you are so loved because you are a direct emanation of that love. So anybody that told you differently, anything you're telling yourself—compassion for that falsehood. You are so very loved.
Amanda: Is it just me or do you all just feel so much more peaceful at the end of this time with Suzanne? I'm just like, “Ah, I just feel like I could float away in a little bliss bubble. It's just like, wow.”
Suzanne: Good.
Amanda: Thank you. It's—it's your resonance. It's your… uh, just the way the wisdom comes through you. Yes, coherence.
Suzanne: That took effort. It's not without effort to—to get to that state and maintain it, but it really is worth the effort.
Amanda: Mm. Beautiful. Okay. Well, go check out Suzanne's new book. We'll put all the links from this show in the show notes. And Suzanne, I can't wait to have you back on the show sometime.
Suzanne: Anytime. It's a joy. Thank you, everybody.
Amanda: Take care, everyone.