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Transcript:
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Hey, friends,
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welcome back and happy holidays.
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I'm so happy to be spending this time with you here
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tonight. This episode is an oldie but goodie,
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and it was brought to us by the beloved Rick Merlin
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Levine. And what we will be doing is exploring the mythos
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of the Christmas star.
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Rick is masterful at weaving astrology,
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history, and mythology and taking us on a really,
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really soulful journey.
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And interestingly,
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this episode happened right before a historic moment,
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the Jupiter Saturn conjunction of 2021.
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This was a pivotal collective moment for all of us,
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and now we're at the precipice of another historic moment as
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we are about to have the Saturn neptune conjunction at 0
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degrees of Aries.
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So we thought that bringing this episode back right now when
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we're at another collective turning point would be an interesting and
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fruitful endeavor.
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Whether you're in a bustling,
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full house right now or you're spending a quiet holiday season,
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I just want to take this opportunity to thank you for
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welcoming us into your home and your heart throughout 2025.
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I hope this show has brought you insights,
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awareness, and that special kind of light that astrological wisdom carries.
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Thank you for being a part of our community,
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and enjoy the show.
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All right,
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so, Rick,
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not only did I miss you last week,
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but I am so excited about this episode because I figured
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it could go either way.
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We're talking about the Christmas star of modern times,
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and I know you're going to take us on a little
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journey back to the star of Bethlehem.
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And the big question in my mind is,
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is what's happening on Monday,
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the Jupiter Saturn conjunction,
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a similar event to what happened at the star of Bethlehem
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when Jesus was born?
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Or, you know,
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as the story goes.
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So I can't wait to hear the answer because.
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Well, let me answer that question as a multiple choice.
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Okay. The answer is A,
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yes, definitely,
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B, I'm not sure.
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I don't think so,
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C, absolutely not,
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and D,
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we'll never know.
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That's my answer,
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and I stand by it.
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So, Rick,
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I've been going through the multiple choice in my head.
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I'm like,
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it's either going to be yes,
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absolutely no.
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That is preposterous.
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So, Amanda,
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you know me better than that.
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My answers are absolutely yes and absolutely no.
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Gemini rising.
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I get to do that.
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All right,
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so let's dive in.
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Tell us about it.
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Well, okay.
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You know,
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there is a game that I like to play in astrology
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in general,
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and that's what's the same and what's different.
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You know,
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take two planets,
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Venus and Mars,
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they have stuff in common,
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you know,
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and they have stuff that's different.
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Jupiter and Neptune,
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they have stuff in common and they have stuff that's different.
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So in a way,
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we're looking at two moments in time.
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We're looking at a moment roughly 2,000
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years ago,
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give or take a few years,
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and now,
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and we're saying,
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what do these two moments in time have in common and
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what do they have not in common?
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And it turns out that they have a lot in common.
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And obviously they have a lot that's not in common.
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But part of what happens this time of year is,
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is that regardless of what our religious affiliation is,
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and of course,
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because we are talking about the quote,
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unquote, Christmas star or the star of Bethlehem,
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there is a connotation here of we are talking about a
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particular belief or story in a particular religion,
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that is Christianity in all of its many,
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many, many shades of existence.
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But the fact of the matter is that it doesn't matter
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what your religion is,
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because the events of approximately 2000 years ago have had profound
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influence on planet Earth for 2000 years.
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And so this is not about a religious affiliation.
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I just want to say that because people in,
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in our group,
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people anywhere,
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I mean,
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this is the Internet and people are here from all over
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the world and from many,
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many different affiliations.
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And this in no way is trying to emphasize that one
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should be in any one versus another.
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I remember Matthew Fox,
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who is a contemporary spiritual teacher who claims that the coolest
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thing on his resume is that he was personally fired by
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the Pope.
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He was a priest who was doing all night raves in
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San Francisco in the basement of St.
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Mark's Cathedral there.
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And basically he was told to stop because it was not
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okay. But his thing was he was keeping kids who would
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be doing drugs on the street all night in a place
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that was safe and that was good.
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And so anyhow,
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he got fired over.
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But Matthew Fox says this,
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or says this.
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He says it doesn't matter where you dig the well,
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you get to the same water.
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So let's just start out with that,
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because in this day and age,
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excuse me,
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in this particular day and age,
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it seems so much energy is aimed at making us feel
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divided from everything or everyone else.
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And so this is not about that.
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I just wanted to be really clear about that.
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But Something happened about 2,000
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years ago.
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And of course in astrology,
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what we want to do is we want to make a
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chart. Now,
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until Johannes Kepler came along,
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there was no way that any modern person could make a
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Chart, because we did not have the formulas for the mathematical
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logistics of how the planets moved.
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So there was no way to say,
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erect a chart for January 23,
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1471. It was impossible.
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There was no tool to do it,
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but with Kepler's laws of motion.
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And of course,
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Kepler, as we know,
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was not an astronomer.
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He was the emperor,
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Emperor Rudolph's Mathematicus.
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And the Mathematicus was a formal job title of the timekeeper.
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He was the emperor's astrologer.
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Now there's a whole dive around Johannes Kepler that we can
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do sometime because his story and his life is so fascinating.
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And he's often held up by modern scientists as being the
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father of modern astronomy,
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who, like many ignorant,
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superstitious people of his time,
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dabbled in astrology.
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But he didn't believe it.
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We have words of his that said,
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you know,
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that show he didn't believe in it,
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even though he did it for money.
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And nothing could be further from the truth,
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because in fact,
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the astrology that Johannes Kepler didn't believe in was the astrology
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that just ticked him off.
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And it had to do with the emperor wanting to know
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when to go to war and when he was or wasn't
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gonna get laid.
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That was the astrology of that time,
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just like it's the astrology of these times.
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That's not the astrology that we are doing.
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But, but Kepler actually,
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in figuring out the laws of planetary motion without a computer,
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he had a pencil or probably a rural pen,
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you know,
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a, you know,
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a feather with ink in it or something,
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a writing device,
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and he scratched on paper using his formulas,
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and he could figure out when the last conjunction of Jupiter
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and Saturn were and when the one before that was and
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when the one before that was.
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And he did this in 16,
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1602, 1603,
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somewhere in there.
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And he went all the way back and he realized that
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there was a Jupiter,
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Saturn conjunction in the sign of Pisces in 7 BC and
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he wondered if that wasn't in some way connected with the
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star of Bethlehem.
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Now, it's important to understand that Kepler was a religious man,
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meaning that he was a member of the Protestant Church,
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the Protestant Church that in some ways was at war with,
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with the Catholic Church during those times.
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This is after the beginning of the Reformation.
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The Reformation.
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And Kepler was somewhat caught in the middle,
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but he worked for Emperor Rudolph,
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and Emperor Rudolph was the emperor of the Holy Roman Empire,
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which broke away from the,
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from the Pope.
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So Kepler,
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who didn't want to get caught up in religious controversies,
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so still very Much believed in the idea of the Creator
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and of God and that his work as an astrologer,
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as someone who was delving into the mysteries.
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Kepler is the first human being who extended humans intellect into
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the celestial realm.
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As modern as we can't grasp that no one,
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I mean anything outside of the earth plane was always considered
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to be of divine proportion.
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It was considered to be divine,
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heavenly, that's what it was.
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And Kepler had the audacity to stick his head through.
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You've seen that woodcut,
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you know that ancient woodcut.
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Well that was Kepler kind of looking up and going holy
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smokes, we can put our brains up here.
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And so it's very important to understand this picture in which
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we are looking at the Jupiter Saturn conjunction.
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But Kepler was like very humbled when he realized that there
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may actually have been an astronomical component to the,
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to the star of Bethlehem.
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But we're getting a little bit ahead of ourselves because,
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because we need to put up front something very,
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very important and that is that no one will ever have
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the chart for the birth of Jesus,
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the historical Jesus.
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There are many different theories about what the star of Bethlehem
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was and some of them are quite interesting.
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I mean there was a comet in 12 BC and some
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people said that there was a possible supernova in 5 BC
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and in fact there was a very interesting sequence of visible
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events between 3 B.C.
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and 1 B.C.
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that many people say was the Christmas star.
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And in fact this is favored a bit by Christian theologians.
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And I've puzzled for years as to why and I think
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I know the answer.
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And I think it's because it's safer,
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because it doesn't pull in the astrological component as strongly.
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And just to touch on that,
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to give it the respect that it is due because it
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is a theory and we'll never know.
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It's not the one that I'm going to dig down onto,
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dig down into.
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But there was a very interesting series of conjunctions between Venus
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and Jupiter roughly In I think 2 BC Venus went retrograde
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and it did it in the sign of Virgo.
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And there's this whole thing about chasing the lion,
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which is the Leo,
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which would have been the previous sign.
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And so in a way there's this whole mythology built up
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around the idea of the star of Bethlehem being this conjunction
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of Jupiter and Venus which were very visible,
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but unless you were looking for it,
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you wouldn't notice it.
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Remember when the,
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when the wise men.
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And we're going to come back to these dudes in just
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a minute because they're such an important piece of the story.
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But when the wise men were searching for,
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you know,
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for the fulfillment of this sign that they saw,
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Herod was freaking out because he didn't want a king of
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kings to be born.
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He was the king,
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and so he brought the Magi,
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the wise men,
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to his castle to.
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Not his castle,
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his home.
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I don't know,
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what do you call it?
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Palace. Huh?
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His palace.
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Thank you.
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That's the word.
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And. And he basically said,
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you know,
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show me this star so I can worship it too.
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I mean,
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it was a bit of a scam,
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but they.
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The wise men took him out at night and showed him
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the star,
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and he went,
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holy crap,
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I see it.
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So what is it that.
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I mean,
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if there's any truth to these stories,
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what is it that you could see but not see until
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someone showed it to you?
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And I can't tell you how many times I've been out
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at night,
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you know,
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and said to someone,
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hey, you see that brightest thing up there?
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That's Mars,
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or that's Mars joining up with the moon.
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And the person goes,
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oh, my God,
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I've never seen that before.
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You know,
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it's like we see things,
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but we don't see things.
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So let's go back to.
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I think it's Matthew,
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where it said that after Jesus was born in Bethlehem,
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in the days of Herod the king.
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This is an important dating feature.
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Magi from the east arrived in Jerusalem saying,
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where is he who has been born King of the Jews?
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And this is.
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And in Matthew,
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it says,
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for we have seen his star rising in the east and
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have come to worship him.
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Now, worship.
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I mean,
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all of this is translations of translations,
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so we don't know exactly,
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you know,
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what. But,
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you know,
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worship him might have simply meant to honor him or to
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pay homage to him.
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But there's another series of words in here that's translated that
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has a very powerful meaning that is totally lost to us
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moderners. And that is for we saw his star in the
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east, or we saw his star rising in the east.
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Now, to us,
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that just means there's the eastern horizon and we saw the
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star rising.
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But to the ancients,
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the way they kept track of time over the year was
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by noticing what stars were rising in the east before it
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came light at dawn.
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You see,
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because over the course of a year,
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if the Earth is moving around the sun once a year,
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it looks like the sun moves around the entire zodiac once
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a year.
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The sun isn't,
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but that's what it looks like.
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Which means that if you were to watch the sun rise
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every day for a year,
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you would see every sign in the zodiac rising just before
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the sun rose.
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And the term for that is heliacal rising.
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And in the Aramaic,
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which is what the Gospels were written in prior to being
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translated to Greek,
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prior to being translated to Latin to English,
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and probably distorted again and again and again and again.
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I remember Rob Hand once saying that fundamentalism is a system
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of belief that's based upon a misinterpretation of a bad translation
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of an allegedly divinely inspired piece of writing.
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It's a brilliant definition.
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So to the ancients,
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this concept of heliacal rising,
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because in the Aramaic,
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it was the.
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You know,
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we have seen his star in heliacal rising.
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Now, that's something that means something very different because that means
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it was close to the sun.
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It means that it was rising and then the sun was
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coming up.
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And. And it turns out that the Magi were a very
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particular titled group of people.
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And here again,
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we have translations that just don't quite do it.
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I mean,
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we all know that there were these three Magi.
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In some cases,
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they're called the wise men.
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In some cases,
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in older songs,
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they're even referred to as kings.
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We three kings of Orient are.
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Orient means east,
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you know,
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and these three kings or wise men or Magi came from
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the East.
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Well, what was the East?
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Well, today east of Jerusalem is Iraq.
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At that time,
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it was called Babylonia and.
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And the.
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Or in Persia,
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actually, it was Babylonia even prior to that.
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And the predominant religion of what would be called the Orient,
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to people living in the area of Israel or Palestine,
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that area would be to the Orient,
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it would be Oriental,
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it would be to the East.
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And in the east,
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the religion that they practiced was a religion called Zoroastrianism.
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This was the predominant religion of the time.
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And Zoroastrianism was based upon the works of their prophet Zoroaster,
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who lived a few centuries prior to that.
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And this was the widespread religion.
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And in fact,
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in many religions,
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there's a title given to the priests of that religion.
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Like if.
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If someone had the title Rabbi,
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Rabbi Joel Goldstein,
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to pick a name that sounds Jewish,
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I don't even know if there is a rabbi by that
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name. But if someone has the word rabbi as part of
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their title or is referred to as,
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yes, he or she is a rabbi,
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that means that that person is a minister of the spiritual
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tradition contained within the church,
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within the religion of Judaism.
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That's what a rabbi is.
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There's no question about it at all.
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If you use the word rabbi,
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you know what it is.
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In fact,
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if someone uses the word priest,
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it usually in our culture refers to someone who is in
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the same role,
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but in the church of Catholicism,
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that in the Protestant world they are called ministers or reverend,
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but not priests.
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Now, it turns out that a magi was a title,
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just like a rabbi and a magi.
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And magi actually,
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technically, I think is plural.
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I think magus is the singular.
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But we use it in both ways.
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But a magi was a Zoroastrian priest.
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And these Zoroastrian priests were not subservient.
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They were like kings because they were venerated.
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There was very little division of church and state like there
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allegedly should be in the United States because it's written into
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our Constitution.
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There's another rabbit hole to go down sometime,
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but not today.
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So these,
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apparently, these three magi were in fact Zoroastrian priests and kings
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in their own right.
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Now it turns out that there's a guy,
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I want to say his name.
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John Roberts.
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I might have his name wrong.
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I haven't looked at this book in years,
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but I read it many years ago.
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This guy basically was a historian,
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and he was interested in trying to figure out really what
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happened back around the birth of Jesus.
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And he figured that if there was truth to this story
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that is recorded in the Christian tradition as three magi coming
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from the east,
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paying homage to this birth of an avatar of a new
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age, the age of Christianity.
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And let's hold that thought that we refer to what many
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astrologers call the age of Pisces,
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is often referred to as the age of Christianity.
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In fact,
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until more recently,
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even in academics,
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it was BC before Christ.
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You know,
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and the AD is Anno Domino,
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Domino, which is the year of our Lord.
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I mean,
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this is how we refer to the timekeeping that we do.
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I mean,
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AD means,
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you know,
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the year of the Lord.
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It's after the birth of Jesus.
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We'll come back to that in a moment.
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But this guy decided or concluded that if there was truth
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to this story,
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that he should be able to find somewhere in modern day
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Iraq remnants of some local stories of something about these three
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kings who went on a journey for a year and came
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back, and he did.
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And it's a very interesting story because he unfolds his story
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kind of as his own travel log,
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going into these little towns and trying to put these pieces
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together and going into church records and listening to local stories
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and so on.
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And it turns out that like many of Our religious stories
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like Joshua fitting the battle of Jericho.
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And in the Bible,
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in the Old Testament,
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in the Torah,
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it is said that Joshua held the sun to stand still.
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He asked God to make the sun stand still because there
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00:24:20,020 –> 00:24:23,260
was a battle going on and they needed more time for
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00:24:23,820 –> 00:24:28,220
the then Jews to be victorious in the battle.
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00:24:28,380 –> 00:24:31,970
And so that's recorded in the Old Testament.
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00:24:32,290 –> 00:24:34,450
Now, it turns out from the same time in history,
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there are myths in China and in Japan and in the
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South Sea Islands of a period of extended night.
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00:24:43,410 –> 00:24:46,850
Hmm. You see,
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00:24:47,090 –> 00:24:55,250
what we get as mythological stories actually seem to have truth,
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00:24:55,820 –> 00:25:01,500
although they're wrapped up in religious symbolism,
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00:25:01,980 –> 00:25:03,900
which I have to say,
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00:25:04,460 –> 00:25:05,500
in my mind,
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00:25:05,900 –> 00:25:07,580
doesn't take anything away from them.
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00:25:07,580 –> 00:25:09,260
It just makes them even more magical.
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00:25:09,660 –> 00:25:12,700
And there's another story here that I can't.
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00:25:12,860 –> 00:25:15,260
I can't do this without even mentioning,
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00:25:16,940 –> 00:25:21,900
but this is an hour or two or three discussion itself.
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Do you know the name Immanuel Velikovsky?
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00:25:26,220 –> 00:25:26,940
I do not.
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00:25:27,420 –> 00:25:27,820
All right,
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00:25:27,820 –> 00:25:34,820
so Immanuel Velikovsky was the victim of probably one of the
529
00:25:34,820 –> 00:25:36,460
largest publishing.
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00:25:37,740 –> 00:25:38,780
What's the right word?
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00:25:38,780 –> 00:25:39,820
Events, crises,
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00:25:41,820 –> 00:25:44,780
chaotic moments in the 20th century.
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00:25:45,340 –> 00:25:53,880
Because he was a Russian Jew who got a PhD in
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00:25:53,880 –> 00:25:56,880
geology, studied psychoanalysis,
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00:25:57,120 –> 00:25:58,360
came to the United States,
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00:25:58,360 –> 00:26:00,680
was a friend of Albert Einstein's,
537
00:26:00,680 –> 00:26:02,320
but was an intellectual.
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00:26:02,640 –> 00:26:09,160
And he began to delve into cross cultural mythologies from a
539
00:26:09,160 –> 00:26:10,160
standpoint, actually,
540
00:26:10,400 –> 00:26:12,960
of a psychoanalytic perspective,
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00:26:14,080 –> 00:26:16,450
because it began to dawn on him that.
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00:26:16,600 –> 00:26:21,000
That what was called the Great Flood in the Old Testament,
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00:26:22,200 –> 00:26:28,880
that same myth of a huge deluge existed in just about
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00:26:28,880 –> 00:26:30,520
every culture around the world,
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00:26:30,760 –> 00:26:33,960
whether it was in the southern tip of Africa or in
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00:26:33,960 –> 00:26:35,600
the northern tip of Japan.
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00:26:35,600 –> 00:26:38,360
It didn't matter that this was somehow ingrained.
548
00:26:38,840 –> 00:26:42,610
And he began to think that these great events were actually
549
00:26:42,770 –> 00:26:46,970
like traumatic events in our childhood that are so painful we
550
00:26:46,970 –> 00:26:47,730
block them out.
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00:26:47,810 –> 00:26:49,650
This is a kind of a psychological,
552
00:26:49,890 –> 00:26:51,250
psychoanalytical thing.
553
00:26:51,650 –> 00:26:53,130
And he said this is the same thing.
554
00:26:53,130 –> 00:26:54,050
True with our history.
555
00:26:54,370 –> 00:26:58,210
We have these moments that are so overwhelming that we turn
556
00:26:58,210 –> 00:26:59,170
them into stories,
557
00:26:59,570 –> 00:27:02,970
but we make them other than natural and we can't deal
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00:27:02,970 –> 00:27:03,490
with them.
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00:27:03,650 –> 00:27:04,410
And in fact,
560
00:27:04,410 –> 00:27:06,210
one of the key components.
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00:27:06,210 –> 00:27:06,970
So anyway,
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00:27:06,970 –> 00:27:12,970
Velikovsky wrote three books which overnight became New York Times bestsellers.
563
00:27:12,970 –> 00:27:14,850
This is in the early 50s,
564
00:27:14,850 –> 00:27:16,840
I think it might have been around 53,
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00:27:17,020 –> 00:27:18,490
1953 or 54.
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00:27:18,490 –> 00:27:19,770
My year might be off here.
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00:27:20,250 –> 00:27:21,690
I'm doing all this from memory.
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00:27:23,130 –> 00:27:26,170
So these books became overnight bestsellers.
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00:27:26,170 –> 00:27:28,810
The books were worlds in collision,
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00:27:28,970 –> 00:27:29,490
which is,
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00:27:29,490 –> 00:27:30,490
if you're going to read one,
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00:27:30,570 –> 00:27:35,210
read that one ages in Chaos and Earth in upheaval.
573
00:27:35,770 –> 00:27:38,410
And if you can gather by the names of these books,
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00:27:38,490 –> 00:27:43,450
they're all about the historical background of Earth based upon cataclysm.
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00:27:44,010 –> 00:27:48,850
And one of the major cataclysms that's discussed in Worlds in
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00:27:48,850 –> 00:27:52,530
Collision is the period of time of what in the Old
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00:27:52,530 –> 00:27:55,610
Testament is the Jewish exodus from Egypt,
578
00:27:56,250 –> 00:27:58,010
the holiday of Passover,
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00:27:58,330 –> 00:28:01,810
Moses, that whole period of time where there were plagues in
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00:28:01,810 –> 00:28:04,330
the Red Sea parting and all of that.
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00:28:04,980 –> 00:28:09,220
Well, Velikovsky claims that that was because Venus,
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which had previously been a moon of Jupiter,
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00:28:12,900 –> 00:28:14,420
was knocked out of orbit,
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00:28:14,500 –> 00:28:17,460
became a comet that had a near collision with Earth every
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00:28:17,460 –> 00:28:18,500
79 years,
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00:28:18,740 –> 00:28:22,620
which is why the prophets in the Old Testament were forecasting
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00:28:22,620 –> 00:28:26,820
the doom of Earth every 79 years because of this fear
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00:28:26,820 –> 00:28:30,420
of being colliding with what now we know is Venus.
589
00:28:30,840 –> 00:28:32,840
And that around the time of the exodus,
590
00:28:32,840 –> 00:28:34,840
which is around 1800 B.C.
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00:28:34,840 –> 00:28:37,000
i may be off here 100 years or so,
592
00:28:37,720 –> 00:28:39,000
but around that time,
593
00:28:39,160 –> 00:28:44,120
Venus, coming into its closest approach to the sun,
594
00:28:44,520 –> 00:28:47,000
actually moving in the same direction as Earth,
595
00:28:47,080 –> 00:28:51,280
had a long term near collision with Earth where their atmosphere
596
00:28:51,280 –> 00:28:56,120
is actually melded and Venus settled into its orbit.
597
00:28:56,600 –> 00:28:59,190
And velikovsky predicted in 1952,
598
00:28:59,370 –> 00:29:03,880
53, that Venus was way hotter than what we would find,
599
00:29:03,880 –> 00:29:06,880
that Venus is way hotter than it should be because it
600
00:29:06,880 –> 00:29:12,400
was a burning comet and that its atmosphere would be acidic
601
00:29:12,400 –> 00:29:13,640
and hydrocarbonous.
602
00:29:13,640 –> 00:29:16,800
He claimed that the manna that the Jews ate in the
603
00:29:16,800 –> 00:29:22,040
morning as precipitation were actually hydrocarbons that precipitated into our atmosphere
604
00:29:22,040 –> 00:29:23,280
from, from Venus.
605
00:29:23,520 –> 00:29:26,480
And that the pillar of fire at night and the pillar
606
00:29:26,480 –> 00:29:29,480
of smoke during the day was this comet that was so
607
00:29:29,480 –> 00:29:31,760
close to Earth that there was like right there.
608
00:29:32,000 –> 00:29:34,720
And that even the parting of the Red Sea was because
609
00:29:34,960 –> 00:29:38,720
gravity was all screwed up and that the water actual.
610
00:29:38,880 –> 00:29:41,280
Now this all sounds like an aside,
611
00:29:41,680 –> 00:29:48,820
but it's not because these books were so incredibly powerful,
612
00:29:49,140 –> 00:29:53,140
informational and convincing that they became best sellers.
613
00:29:55,620 –> 00:29:59,900
And it was published by the largest college textbook publishing company
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00:29:59,900 –> 00:30:00,580
in the country.
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00:30:00,740 –> 00:30:01,940
That was Macmillan.
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00:30:02,340 –> 00:30:04,260
And the Southern universities,
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00:30:04,260 –> 00:30:06,580
we're talking the big Southern universities,
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00:30:06,820 –> 00:30:08,420
the University of Georgia,
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00:30:08,420 –> 00:30:13,060
University of Alabama basically said these books are heresy.
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00:30:14,110 –> 00:30:20,030
And if these books aren't pulled out of circulation immediately,
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00:30:20,350 –> 00:30:22,950
we will never buy another Macmillan textbook,
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00:30:22,950 –> 00:30:26,030
ever. And overnight,
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all three books disappeared.
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00:30:29,070 –> 00:30:29,710
Hey there,
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it's Amanda here and I hope you're loving this episode.
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And now back to the episode.
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It's a great story and they eventually were republished,
651
00:31:46,960 –> 00:31:49,520
I think Random House or I'm not sure,
652
00:31:49,600 –> 00:31:53,960
but they were eventually republished a year or so later and
653
00:31:53,960 –> 00:31:54,720
they're still around.
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00:31:55,360 –> 00:32:01,180
But it's the power of the fear that what is called
655
00:32:01,180 –> 00:32:04,860
a miracle might actually be something that really happened.
656
00:32:05,100 –> 00:32:05,900
Now again,
657
00:32:06,300 –> 00:32:09,900
many people read these and even many Christian theologians read these
658
00:32:09,900 –> 00:32:13,340
books and said this is amazing because the magic is even
659
00:32:13,340 –> 00:32:16,580
greater than we thought because it really did happen.
660
00:32:16,580 –> 00:32:18,940
And there were reasons that all this stuff came together.
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00:32:19,500 –> 00:32:22,700
So I wanted to say that as precedent as we talk
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00:32:22,700 –> 00:32:30,150
about this thing that every year captures our imagination.
663
00:32:31,910 –> 00:32:36,710
And I would say whether no matter what our religion is,
664
00:32:36,870 –> 00:32:42,190
we're still caught up by the imagery of what this magic
665
00:32:42,190 –> 00:32:43,510
of this moment,
666
00:32:44,150 –> 00:32:45,190
of the potential,
667
00:32:45,190 –> 00:32:51,290
of the hope of the innocence of this star that led
668
00:32:51,530 –> 00:32:55,770
people to make a journey to honor a baby who was
669
00:32:55,770 –> 00:32:57,290
born, who was innocent,
670
00:32:57,610 –> 00:33:06,210
who then basically took on the position of avatar or spiritual
671
00:33:06,210 –> 00:33:10,330
guru or messiah for an entire age.
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00:33:10,490 –> 00:33:12,850
And we'll hold that word age because we're going to come
673
00:33:12,850 –> 00:33:13,930
back to that in a moment.
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00:33:14,090 –> 00:33:15,970
But can you kind of see where I'm coming at all
675
00:33:15,970 –> 00:33:16,410
this from?
676
00:33:18,090 –> 00:33:19,290
Yes, absolutely.
677
00:33:19,610 –> 00:33:23,530
And you had left us off at the guy who went
678
00:33:23,530 –> 00:33:25,930
to Iraq and found the stories.
679
00:33:26,330 –> 00:33:29,650
Yeah. And there really wasn't much more there other than there
680
00:33:29,650 –> 00:33:33,770
was a story and the story was around that same time
681
00:33:34,490 –> 00:33:39,370
and that these three kings actually did with their trail of
682
00:33:39,370 –> 00:33:40,810
camels and servants,
683
00:33:41,130 –> 00:33:49,140
basically make this journey to find this person to fulfill the
684
00:33:49,140 –> 00:33:54,420
event that they saw that had to do with the symbol
685
00:33:54,660 –> 00:33:55,620
of this,
686
00:33:56,020 –> 00:33:59,060
the star that they saw now.
687
00:34:00,660 –> 00:34:04,980
So what did they see and why were they even looking?
688
00:34:05,460 –> 00:34:12,250
So let's just take a quick meander through the understanding of
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00:34:12,250 –> 00:34:13,890
what Zoroastrianism is.
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00:34:14,130 –> 00:34:18,450
And I like to say that Zoroastrianism to a large extent
691
00:34:18,690 –> 00:34:24,530
is founded on the belief that events on earth are foretold
692
00:34:24,530 –> 00:34:26,930
and. Or seen in the heavens.
693
00:34:27,570 –> 00:34:29,890
And I would like to say that that same thing is
694
00:34:29,890 –> 00:34:31,650
a foundation of Christianity,
695
00:34:31,970 –> 00:34:34,370
except most Christians are in denial.
696
00:34:35,410 –> 00:34:37,570
And I don't mean that on a personal level,
697
00:34:37,650 –> 00:34:42,690
but what I mean is that the Lord's Prayer says it
698
00:34:42,690 –> 00:34:45,570
is done on earth as it is in heaven.
699
00:34:46,050 –> 00:34:47,970
Those are the words in the Lord's Prayer.
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00:34:48,210 –> 00:34:51,570
And yet most Christians do not believe in astrology because they
701
00:34:51,570 –> 00:34:54,890
think that it's not okay to believe that it's done on
702
00:34:54,890 –> 00:34:56,250
earth as it is in heaven,
703
00:34:56,250 –> 00:34:58,530
even though they say those same words every day,
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00:34:58,530 –> 00:35:00,610
if they say the Lord's Prayer every day.
705
00:35:01,010 –> 00:35:05,510
Now, Zoroastrianism actually was built on that same premise.
706
00:35:06,390 –> 00:35:09,070
But looking at the heavens then wasn't like looking at the
707
00:35:09,070 –> 00:35:09,830
heavens now.
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00:35:09,910 –> 00:35:11,910
Obviously, they couldn't put in a birth date,
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00:35:11,910 –> 00:35:12,390
place, time,
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00:35:12,390 –> 00:35:13,350
hit enter and boom,
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00:35:13,350 –> 00:35:14,230
have a chart.
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00:35:14,630 –> 00:35:18,070
They didn't have the understanding of a lot of the planets
713
00:35:18,150 –> 00:35:21,110
that we know that exist now that they didn't know because
714
00:35:21,110 –> 00:35:22,630
they only had the naked eye.
715
00:35:23,750 –> 00:35:28,230
However, and they also didn't work in the same way that
716
00:35:28,230 –> 00:35:33,110
we do with transits and progressions and aspects.
717
00:35:33,510 –> 00:35:36,630
They. They were often omen oriented.
718
00:35:36,710 –> 00:35:38,470
They looked at events as.
719
00:35:38,470 –> 00:35:39,390
As omens.
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00:35:39,390 –> 00:35:41,270
Eclipses being a good example,
721
00:35:42,070 –> 00:35:46,150
seeing as how we are just exiting a season of eclipses.
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00:35:48,230 –> 00:35:54,870
But the Zoroastrian temples were called ziggurats.
723
00:35:55,030 –> 00:35:56,630
Does that name mean anything to you?
724
00:35:57,190 –> 00:35:58,150
A ziggurat?
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00:35:58,960 –> 00:35:59,640
No. Well,
726
00:35:59,640 –> 00:36:00,640
a ziggurat.
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00:36:00,800 –> 00:36:03,360
And I assume I'm not going to Google it,
728
00:36:03,440 –> 00:36:06,720
but I assumed that if you Google ziggurat and it's maybe
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00:36:06,880 –> 00:36:10,720
Z I G G A R Ziggurat,
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00:36:11,280 –> 00:36:12,360
I think it's probably.
731
00:36:12,360 –> 00:36:14,320
It's obviously a translation from.
732
00:36:14,480 –> 00:36:16,560
From Arabic or Persian or.
733
00:36:17,920 –> 00:36:19,600
But a ziggurat.
734
00:36:20,640 –> 00:36:21,840
We've all seen them.
735
00:36:22,160 –> 00:36:27,900
And what they are is they are the old Zoroastrian temples
736
00:36:28,300 –> 00:36:31,740
that were often three or four stories tall,
737
00:36:32,060 –> 00:36:33,260
that were stepped.
738
00:36:33,420 –> 00:36:34,860
They weren't like pyramids,
739
00:36:35,020 –> 00:36:36,860
but they were like each.
740
00:36:37,900 –> 00:36:40,540
Until at the very top there was like an observatory.
741
00:36:41,100 –> 00:36:44,460
And you often see a picture of someone in a robe
742
00:36:44,540 –> 00:36:45,900
looking through a telescope.
743
00:36:45,900 –> 00:36:46,260
Of course,
744
00:36:46,260 –> 00:36:47,740
there were no telescopes then,
745
00:36:49,260 –> 00:36:52,900
but the image is that these were priests who were in
746
00:36:52,900 –> 00:36:58,900
their temples that were actually observatories because they knew that what
747
00:36:58,900 –> 00:37:01,180
happened up there is what was happening down here.
748
00:37:03,260 –> 00:37:07,420
This is what the magi were in some translations that are
749
00:37:07,420 –> 00:37:08,300
more correct.
750
00:37:08,780 –> 00:37:15,260
Instead of using the word magi or wise men,
751
00:37:15,580 –> 00:37:16,780
in some translations,
752
00:37:16,940 –> 00:37:20,140
the word astrologer priests are used.
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00:37:21,760 –> 00:37:23,360
They were astrologer priests.
754
00:37:23,680 –> 00:37:25,920
That's what a Zoroastrian priest was.
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00:37:26,080 –> 00:37:27,680
That's what a magi was,
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00:37:27,760 –> 00:37:29,760
an astrologer priest.
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00:37:31,600 –> 00:37:33,680
So here they are looking at the sky.
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00:37:34,400 –> 00:37:35,920
And of course,
759
00:37:35,920 –> 00:37:36,960
to the ancients,
760
00:37:39,920 –> 00:37:45,680
the timekeepers of the heavens were the slowest moving things up
761
00:37:45,680 –> 00:37:48,990
there, which were Jupiter and Saturn.
762
00:37:49,470 –> 00:37:50,750
They didn't have Uranus,
763
00:37:50,750 –> 00:37:51,710
Neptune, Pluto,
764
00:37:51,710 –> 00:37:53,150
Eris, you know,
765
00:37:53,710 –> 00:37:54,470
Obi Wan,
766
00:37:54,470 –> 00:37:55,630
Kenobi, you know,
767
00:37:55,630 –> 00:37:58,150
and, and whatever else,
768
00:37:58,150 –> 00:37:58,990
and 10,000
769
00:37:58,990 –> 00:37:59,870
or 20,000
770
00:37:59,950 –> 00:38:01,630
asteroids and so on.
771
00:38:01,790 –> 00:38:07,630
They basically had what we would call the seven visible planets.
772
00:38:08,190 –> 00:38:08,630
Of course,
773
00:38:08,630 –> 00:38:10,590
we include the sun and the Moon in that.
774
00:38:10,590 –> 00:38:11,550
But Mercury,
775
00:38:12,380 –> 00:38:13,100
Venus, Mars,
776
00:38:13,100 –> 00:38:14,220
Jupiter and Saturn,
777
00:38:14,460 –> 00:38:19,620
and Jupiter and Saturn were the heavyweights because they moved so
778
00:38:19,620 –> 00:38:22,140
slowly. And in fact,
779
00:38:22,620 –> 00:38:29,420
the conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn was an event that these
780
00:38:29,980 –> 00:38:32,220
magi, these astrologer priests,
781
00:38:32,220 –> 00:38:33,660
knew and knew well.
782
00:38:34,300 –> 00:38:34,860
In fact,
783
00:38:35,260 –> 00:38:36,300
this is where the,
784
00:38:36,380 –> 00:38:41,140
where the concept of the grand conjunction comes from,
785
00:38:41,620 –> 00:38:45,700
because there is mythology around.
786
00:38:45,700 –> 00:38:47,060
And I've dug on this.
787
00:38:48,100 –> 00:38:51,460
I have to admit that I found many references to this,
788
00:38:51,700 –> 00:38:55,780
but I can't find verifiable proof.
789
00:38:56,500 –> 00:38:58,700
But I can say this because I'm not an academic and
790
00:38:58,700 –> 00:39:00,020
I'm really just telling a story,
791
00:39:01,140 –> 00:39:03,880
but it turns out that the,
792
00:39:04,030 –> 00:39:11,510
the Jupiter Saturn conjunction to the ancient Jews was considered to
793
00:39:11,510 –> 00:39:14,590
be. They referred to that as the king star.
794
00:39:14,990 –> 00:39:15,470
You see,
795
00:39:15,470 –> 00:39:17,710
now understand that to the ancients,
796
00:39:18,030 –> 00:39:19,710
the planets were stars.
797
00:39:20,830 –> 00:39:24,430
It's not like there are stars and there are planets.
798
00:39:25,390 –> 00:39:29,470
The word planeta in Greek simply means wanderer.
799
00:39:30,300 –> 00:39:32,780
The planets were simply stars that wandered.
800
00:39:33,580 –> 00:39:36,860
So if you're looking at Jupiter 2,000
801
00:39:36,860 –> 00:39:37,500
years ago,
802
00:39:37,740 –> 00:39:39,340
you're looking at a star.
803
00:39:42,140 –> 00:39:45,100
Okay? We moderners somehow just forget that.
804
00:39:46,140 –> 00:39:49,620
Now every 20 years when Jupiter,
805
00:39:49,620 –> 00:39:51,220
who was the king of Olympus,
806
00:39:51,220 –> 00:39:51,620
I mean,
807
00:39:51,620 –> 00:39:54,620
Jupiter was a serious dude and,
808
00:39:54,620 –> 00:39:55,180
you know,
809
00:39:55,570 –> 00:39:59,090
and Saturn was even more serious.
810
00:39:59,090 –> 00:40:00,370
Saturn was Kronos.
811
00:40:00,370 –> 00:40:02,370
Saturn was father time.
812
00:40:02,850 –> 00:40:03,450
And in fact,
813
00:40:03,450 –> 00:40:04,370
to the Jews,
814
00:40:04,610 –> 00:40:10,050
Saturn took even greater importance than anything else,
815
00:40:10,610 –> 00:40:16,090
which is in fact why the Jews chose to worship and
816
00:40:16,090 –> 00:40:21,730
to be quiet on Saturday rather than Sunday or moon day
817
00:40:22,300 –> 00:40:26,540
or Mars day or Venus day or Jupiter day.
818
00:40:26,700 –> 00:40:27,100
I mean,
819
00:40:27,100 –> 00:40:27,580
all the.
820
00:40:27,660 –> 00:40:29,900
And so Saturn was like,
821
00:40:30,060 –> 00:40:31,980
it was like the end of the road.
822
00:40:31,980 –> 00:40:33,420
They didn't use the word karma,
823
00:40:33,580 –> 00:40:35,420
but Saturn was the end of the road.
824
00:40:35,740 –> 00:40:37,420
It was the great timekeeper.
825
00:40:38,860 –> 00:40:40,060
So when Jupiter,
826
00:40:40,140 –> 00:40:42,780
every 20 years lined up with Saturn,
827
00:40:43,020 –> 00:40:43,580
to them,
828
00:40:43,660 –> 00:40:46,380
that was the great timekeeper in the sky.
829
00:40:48,070 –> 00:40:59,830
Now they noticed that every 20 years that this conjunction occurred
830
00:40:59,830 –> 00:41:01,190
in the same elements.
831
00:41:01,190 –> 00:41:03,270
They had elements like we do,
832
00:41:03,270 –> 00:41:03,870
fire, earth,
833
00:41:03,870 –> 00:41:04,550
air, water,
834
00:41:05,430 –> 00:41:06,630
and that.
835
00:41:06,790 –> 00:41:13,190
They also had associations from the various signs to different countries
836
00:41:13,270 –> 00:41:14,470
and peoples and things.
837
00:41:14,950 –> 00:41:15,750
And in fact,
838
00:41:15,750 –> 00:41:19,420
the sign of Pisces was considered to be the sign of
839
00:41:19,420 –> 00:41:19,900
the Jews,
840
00:41:19,900 –> 00:41:22,460
the sign of Canaan or then Palestine.
841
00:41:25,580 –> 00:41:29,980
So these Magi are watching the skies at night,
842
00:41:30,940 –> 00:41:35,980
and they're seeing Jupiter and Saturn over the course of years
843
00:41:36,700 –> 00:41:38,380
coming closer together.
844
00:41:38,460 –> 00:41:39,340
Now, obviously,
845
00:41:39,340 –> 00:41:40,820
you can see it for several months,
846
00:41:40,820 –> 00:41:42,980
and then it goes into the sun and you can't.
847
00:41:42,980 –> 00:41:44,140
And then they're closer together,
848
00:41:44,300 –> 00:41:46,790
but. But they're seeing this and they're thinking,
849
00:41:46,870 –> 00:41:47,830
holy smokes,
850
00:41:48,070 –> 00:41:49,990
this conjunction is coming together.
851
00:41:50,390 –> 00:41:55,990
But unlike the past conjunctions that were in air,
852
00:41:56,470 –> 00:41:58,550
this one is going to be in water.
853
00:41:58,870 –> 00:41:59,350
In fact,
854
00:41:59,350 –> 00:42:01,430
this one's going to be in the sign of Pisces.
855
00:42:01,750 –> 00:42:03,670
This king star,
856
00:42:04,390 –> 00:42:07,270
which is what they called the conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn,
857
00:42:07,350 –> 00:42:09,590
is going to occur in the sign of the Jews,
858
00:42:09,670 –> 00:42:11,590
the new king of kings for the Jews,
859
00:42:11,590 –> 00:42:13,190
the king of Jews will be born.
860
00:42:14,500 –> 00:42:15,460
This is a big deal.
861
00:42:17,220 –> 00:42:24,820
And hence the mythology of these three kings going to find
862
00:42:26,180 –> 00:42:28,020
the person to fulfill the imagery.
863
00:42:28,100 –> 00:42:30,460
Now here I have to take a quick aside and tell
864
00:42:30,460 –> 00:42:31,460
a personal story,
865
00:42:32,260 –> 00:42:33,140
because for me,
866
00:42:33,140 –> 00:42:37,780
this locked this whole thing into place many years ago.
867
00:42:37,780 –> 00:42:40,580
Geez, maybe about 35 years ago,
868
00:42:42,100 –> 00:42:43,620
I went to hear this guy.
869
00:42:43,780 –> 00:42:47,460
His name was Nagpa Chogyam Rinpoche.
870
00:42:47,540 –> 00:42:49,140
Just an amazing creature.
871
00:42:49,140 –> 00:42:51,820
A Brit who had spent 20 years in the caves of
872
00:42:51,820 –> 00:42:54,820
Bhutan, was given a true,
873
00:42:54,820 –> 00:42:59,300
real Vajrayana lineage and could speak English better than most of
874
00:42:59,300 –> 00:43:00,420
the people who are listening.
875
00:43:00,500 –> 00:43:01,700
This guy was brilliant,
876
00:43:01,780 –> 00:43:04,100
and I had the privilege of hearing him several times.
877
00:43:05,370 –> 00:43:08,810
And he really was like he had something very,
878
00:43:08,810 –> 00:43:10,090
very special about him.
879
00:43:10,810 –> 00:43:11,890
He wrote a book.
880
00:43:11,890 –> 00:43:12,850
A couple years later,
881
00:43:12,850 –> 00:43:14,010
I found a book of his.
882
00:43:14,010 –> 00:43:15,290
He has a couple of books out there,
883
00:43:15,290 –> 00:43:15,850
by the way,
884
00:43:15,850 –> 00:43:17,530
and they're both worth reading.
885
00:43:17,690 –> 00:43:19,930
But he has a third book that's out of print.
886
00:43:20,570 –> 00:43:28,370
And this book was an unauthorized biography of the 14th Dalai
887
00:43:28,370 –> 00:43:30,090
Lama, the current Dalai Lama.
888
00:43:30,980 –> 00:43:35,380
And the first chapter of the book is the story of
889
00:43:35,380 –> 00:43:37,220
the previous Dalai Lama,
890
00:43:37,780 –> 00:43:38,740
last days,
891
00:43:39,860 –> 00:43:40,820
his death,
892
00:43:41,540 –> 00:43:44,020
and the few years after his death,
893
00:43:44,340 –> 00:43:47,220
and the search for the new Dalai Lama.
894
00:43:48,740 –> 00:43:49,940
And as I read this,
895
00:43:49,940 –> 00:43:53,900
I freaked out because it felt like the three wise men
896
00:43:53,900 –> 00:43:54,820
looking for Jesus.
897
00:43:56,670 –> 00:43:57,270
It was like,
898
00:43:57,270 –> 00:43:59,070
this is all too weird,
899
00:43:59,070 –> 00:44:01,310
and it wasn't intended to be that at all.
900
00:44:01,470 –> 00:44:04,190
But because I was already immersed in this research,
901
00:44:04,830 –> 00:44:06,710
because I grew up as an outsider,
902
00:44:06,710 –> 00:44:08,990
I grew up in the Jewish tradition,
903
00:44:09,390 –> 00:44:12,270
surrounded by friends who celebrated Christmas.
904
00:44:12,270 –> 00:44:14,670
And Christmas quickly became my favorite holiday,
905
00:44:14,830 –> 00:44:16,910
I loved the idea of the Christmas star,
906
00:44:17,070 –> 00:44:20,190
even before I had any inklings of what astrology was.
907
00:44:21,470 –> 00:44:24,350
And so this is something that when I talk about this
908
00:44:24,350 –> 00:44:25,620
whole concept,
909
00:44:25,620 –> 00:44:26,860
none of this is new to me.
910
00:44:26,860 –> 00:44:31,380
I've been researching and digging into this for probably 35,
911
00:44:31,460 –> 00:44:32,180
40 years.
912
00:44:33,060 –> 00:44:34,860
But when I've read more than that,
913
00:44:34,860 –> 00:44:36,340
but when I read his story,
914
00:44:36,740 –> 00:44:39,140
it was like these three,
915
00:44:41,220 –> 00:44:42,340
what's the right word?
916
00:44:43,300 –> 00:44:45,780
Aides, associates,
917
00:44:46,340 –> 00:44:50,780
disciples, I don't know of the previous Dalai Lama basically was
918
00:44:50,780 –> 00:44:52,420
put, they were putting the word out.
919
00:44:52,850 –> 00:44:53,210
You know,
920
00:44:53,210 –> 00:44:54,530
if anyone comes across,
921
00:44:54,530 –> 00:44:56,770
anyone that seems to be different or special,
922
00:44:57,090 –> 00:44:57,570
you know,
923
00:44:57,570 –> 00:44:58,370
we're, you know,
924
00:44:58,450 –> 00:44:59,730
we're on the hunt because.
925
00:45:00,450 –> 00:45:01,610
And this was about two,
926
00:45:01,610 –> 00:45:06,450
three years after the Dalai Lama left his body.
927
00:45:07,170 –> 00:45:10,690
And they got word that in some little tiny town outside
928
00:45:10,690 –> 00:45:14,130
of some little town outside of some non existent town,
929
00:45:14,930 –> 00:45:15,770
who knows where,
930
00:45:15,770 –> 00:45:16,770
somewhere in Tibet,
931
00:45:17,730 –> 00:45:20,290
that there was some kid that people were talking about.
932
00:45:20,880 –> 00:45:25,560
And so these three guys basically packed up and went on
933
00:45:25,560 –> 00:45:28,480
a journey to this town to see if this was the
934
00:45:28,480 –> 00:45:29,520
Dalai Lama.
935
00:45:32,160 –> 00:45:37,280
And the story is that and this would have taken place
936
00:45:37,280 –> 00:45:38,440
in the 1930s.
937
00:45:38,440 –> 00:45:40,480
I don't have the exact date of the Dalai Lama,
938
00:45:40,480 –> 00:45:43,120
but he was born somewhere in the 19 early 30s.
939
00:45:44,880 –> 00:45:53,730
When these three Buddhist monks get to this town and they're
940
00:45:53,730 –> 00:45:54,890
directed to the home,
941
00:45:55,690 –> 00:46:01,090
they have with them three walking sticks that all look the
942
00:46:01,090 –> 00:46:04,450
same, but one of them was the property of the Dalai
943
00:46:04,450 –> 00:46:09,850
Lamas and the other two were just walking sticks.
944
00:46:10,730 –> 00:46:11,930
And anyhow,
945
00:46:11,930 –> 00:46:12,850
they get introduced,
946
00:46:12,850 –> 00:46:13,850
they find the house,
947
00:46:14,470 –> 00:46:15,670
and when they get to the house,
948
00:46:15,830 –> 00:46:18,830
there's a three year old there who's all dressed up as
949
00:46:18,830 –> 00:46:20,390
if he's going to a celebration.
950
00:46:21,430 –> 00:46:27,310
And, and the parents basically said he insisted on getting dressed
951
00:46:27,310 –> 00:46:27,710
up today.
952
00:46:27,710 –> 00:46:29,270
He knew it was a special day,
953
00:46:30,790 –> 00:46:32,230
so it was like he was waiting.
954
00:46:33,030 –> 00:46:34,630
And in fact the story is,
955
00:46:34,630 –> 00:46:35,910
and I can't validate this,
956
00:46:35,910 –> 00:46:39,030
I'm just telling you what this story is that I read,
957
00:46:40,440 –> 00:46:43,640
that this three year old was able to converse with these
958
00:46:43,640 –> 00:46:49,680
three monks in a different dialect than the dialect that the
959
00:46:49,680 –> 00:46:52,200
three or four year old was learning locally.
960
00:46:53,400 –> 00:46:54,520
And he was able,
961
00:46:54,680 –> 00:46:59,000
he quickly pushed aside the other two walking sticks and basically
962
00:46:59,000 –> 00:47:00,600
said mine right,
963
00:47:00,600 –> 00:47:08,350
one. Now there's something about the idea of reincarnation which we
964
00:47:08,350 –> 00:47:09,830
have talked about here before,
965
00:47:11,110 –> 00:47:21,110
and this idea of somehow the soul surviving death and incarnating
966
00:47:21,430 –> 00:47:23,990
disincarnating. Incarnating,
967
00:47:24,390 –> 00:47:30,670
disincarnating. And there was something about the Jewish belief of the
968
00:47:30,670 –> 00:47:31,350
King Star,
969
00:47:32,000 –> 00:47:35,920
of what we call the grand conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn,
970
00:47:36,160 –> 00:47:40,840
that basically anyone born under the King Star was considered to
971
00:47:40,840 –> 00:47:44,240
be in the lineage of the House of David.
972
00:47:44,640 –> 00:47:48,400
Hold that thought just for a second because now we have
973
00:47:48,720 –> 00:47:54,120
someone in 1930 who was born into the lineage of the
974
00:47:54,120 –> 00:47:55,120
Dalai Lama.
975
00:47:55,840 –> 00:47:58,270
We're not talking genetics here.
976
00:47:58,830 –> 00:48:05,790
We're talking some sort of metaphysical spiritual lineage that basically says
977
00:48:05,950 –> 00:48:09,470
this person has the genes,
978
00:48:09,710 –> 00:48:11,350
even though they're not familial,
979
00:48:11,350 –> 00:48:13,950
they're not from the family of this other person.
980
00:48:14,030 –> 00:48:20,110
There's something here that's vibrationally recurring or continuing contiguous.
981
00:48:20,830 –> 00:48:22,990
And so to the ancients,
982
00:48:22,990 –> 00:48:27,370
being born under a Jupiter Saturn conjunction with was a sign
983
00:48:27,370 –> 00:48:30,370
of being born into the House of David is the King
984
00:48:30,370 –> 00:48:35,850
Star. And now you have this moment where the Zoroastrians who
985
00:48:35,850 –> 00:48:38,450
know all this mythology because they were not.
986
00:48:38,530 –> 00:48:38,970
I mean,
987
00:48:38,970 –> 00:48:40,530
even though it was a separate religion,
988
00:48:40,690 –> 00:48:46,330
they were scholars and they understood that this conjunction of Jupiter
989
00:48:46,330 –> 00:48:47,650
and Saturn was like,
990
00:48:47,970 –> 00:48:49,130
like an omen,
991
00:48:49,130 –> 00:48:51,250
because they were very omen oriented.
992
00:48:51,330 –> 00:48:55,430
And they went out to find the fulfillment of this omen
993
00:48:57,830 –> 00:48:59,270
in an incarnation.
994
00:48:59,670 –> 00:49:03,750
And that then brings us to their journey to the east,
995
00:49:03,990 –> 00:49:05,710
because it was rising in the east,
996
00:49:05,710 –> 00:49:07,190
it was in heliacal rising.
997
00:49:07,430 –> 00:49:08,950
And so of course they went east.
998
00:49:10,390 –> 00:49:12,070
Now there is a very.
999
00:49:13,110 –> 00:49:13,670
Like I said,
1000
00:49:13,670 –> 00:49:14,270
in all fairness,
1001
00:49:14,270 –> 00:49:15,270
I wanted to mention this,
1002
00:49:15,350 –> 00:49:20,150
there is a large group of people who believe that the
1003
00:49:20,150 –> 00:49:23,350
time that Jesus was born was actually in 2 B.C.
1004
00:49:26,390 –> 00:49:30,950
and part of this is confusing because the way we time
1005
00:49:32,550 –> 00:49:38,710
prehistorical events or early historical events is through dates that we
1006
00:49:38,710 –> 00:49:39,270
know and.
1007
00:49:39,270 –> 00:49:42,070
Or astrological phenomenon,
1008
00:49:42,390 –> 00:49:45,750
astrological phenomena like eclipses.
1009
00:49:46,550 –> 00:49:49,390
And so we know that there was a tax collection.
1010
00:49:49,390 –> 00:49:54,310
We know that Herod was alive and that there is.
1011
00:49:54,310 –> 00:49:56,790
Basically there's disagreement.
1012
00:49:56,790 –> 00:50:02,810
There's many people that say that Herod didn't die until 1
1013
00:50:02,900 –> 00:50:07,910
B.C. but most records show that he died around 4 B.C.
1014
00:50:08,550 –> 00:50:12,550
now the problem is further compounded by the fact that.
1015
00:50:13,510 –> 00:50:17,110
And actually I can get this date here really quickly,
1016
00:50:17,110 –> 00:50:17,830
I think,
1017
00:50:19,270 –> 00:50:28,910
because what happened was that the Pope needed to set the
1018
00:50:28,910 –> 00:50:30,150
date for.
1019
00:50:31,670 –> 00:50:34,710
Here we go for the Star of David.
1020
00:50:35,510 –> 00:50:37,350
And you know,
1021
00:50:38,150 –> 00:50:39,350
and the idea of the tax,
1022
00:50:39,350 –> 00:50:40,810
even the tax collection was,
1023
00:50:41,440 –> 00:50:42,640
was every 14 years,
1024
00:50:42,720 –> 00:50:44,240
half of a Saturn cycle.
1025
00:50:45,120 –> 00:50:51,160
But the fact of the matter is that around 530530 A.D.
1026
00:50:51,400 –> 00:50:53,680
530 A.D.
1027
00:50:54,400 –> 00:50:57,520
and that of course is the year of our Lord,
1028
00:50:59,040 –> 00:51:04,480
the Pope assigned to a monk named Dionysius Exigius the task
1029
00:51:04,480 –> 00:51:07,600
for setting the date of the origin of the calendar.
1030
00:51:08,470 –> 00:51:11,510
The calendar was to begin with the birth of Jesus.
1031
00:51:12,230 –> 00:51:16,710
Unfortunately, Dionysus wasn't up for the task.
1032
00:51:16,950 –> 00:51:19,910
It might have been one of the more important stupid people
1033
00:51:19,990 –> 00:51:24,150
that we know about because first of all,
1034
00:51:24,230 –> 00:51:27,190
he assigned the year one to the time of the birth.
1035
00:51:28,230 –> 00:51:30,150
But in Roman numerals,
1036
00:51:30,550 –> 00:51:32,550
I think we've talked about this here before,
1037
00:51:32,870 –> 00:51:33,830
there's no zero.
1038
00:51:34,560 –> 00:51:37,200
So somehow he missed the fact that there was a year
1039
00:51:37,200 –> 00:51:40,760
zero. So he was immediately off a year because that was
1040
00:51:40,760 –> 00:51:41,600
the year one.
1041
00:51:42,480 –> 00:51:44,080
And then secondly,
1042
00:51:44,960 –> 00:51:54,120
he basically researched and uncovered a 400 year chronology that showed
1043
00:51:54,120 –> 00:51:58,000
that Jesus was born during the reign of Caesar Augustus.
1044
00:51:58,400 –> 00:52:01,920
And he figured out that the TR 28th year of the
1045
00:52:01,920 –> 00:52:04,360
reign of Augustus was when Jesus was born.
1046
00:52:04,440 –> 00:52:08,440
But he missed the fact that Augustus and Octavius were the
1047
00:52:08,440 –> 00:52:09,000
same person.
1048
00:52:09,000 –> 00:52:10,440
He thought they were different people,
1049
00:52:11,400 –> 00:52:12,440
that Augustus,
1050
00:52:13,320 –> 00:52:20,080
that Octavius basically was Augustus with a changed name for four
1051
00:52:20,080 –> 00:52:23,480
years. And so with that miscalculation,
1052
00:52:23,480 –> 00:52:26,920
we immediately go back to 5 or 5 or 6 BC
1053
00:52:27,640 –> 00:52:31,400
and then it turns out that this conjunction was in 7
1054
00:52:31,400 –> 00:52:34,760
BC, which is when it's really likely.
1055
00:52:35,160 –> 00:52:39,440
Now the other piece of this is that the Roman Empire's
1056
00:52:39,440 –> 00:52:40,680
tax collection,
1057
00:52:41,000 –> 00:52:43,320
which occurred about every 14 years,
1058
00:52:44,200 –> 00:52:48,120
there was a historian who lived a generation after Jesus,
1059
00:52:48,120 –> 00:52:51,000
a Roman historian named Josephus,
1060
00:52:51,480 –> 00:52:54,940
and he recalled that there was a tax collection in,
1061
00:52:55,090 –> 00:53:00,450
in 8 BC and the thing about tax collections is it
1062
00:53:00,450 –> 00:53:01,570
didn't matter where you were,
1063
00:53:01,570 –> 00:53:03,490
you had to go to your home where you were born.
1064
00:53:05,410 –> 00:53:09,010
And Joseph was of the tribe of David,
1065
00:53:09,090 –> 00:53:10,370
born in Bethlehem,
1066
00:53:10,850 –> 00:53:12,290
and that was his hometown.
1067
00:53:12,850 –> 00:53:16,050
And so it may have taken him weeks or even months,
1068
00:53:16,050 –> 00:53:18,570
but he had to go back to Bethlehem to be there
1069
00:53:18,570 –> 00:53:19,250
for the tax,
1070
00:53:20,690 –> 00:53:22,130
accounting, accounting.
1071
00:53:22,620 –> 00:53:27,980
And therefore that chronology places Joseph and Mary in Bethlehem around
1072
00:53:28,060 –> 00:53:28,940
8 BC.
1073
00:53:29,500 –> 00:53:32,860
So that's kind of a little piece of this.
1074
00:53:33,580 –> 00:53:38,860
And so it turns out that if we are to believe
1075
00:53:38,940 –> 00:53:39,980
this chronology,
1076
00:53:40,460 –> 00:53:45,900
which puts a heavy emphasis on the astrological origins of Christianity
1077
00:53:46,380 –> 00:53:48,780
versus the 2 BC chronology,
1078
00:53:49,480 –> 00:53:53,920
which is about the very visible conjunction of Venus and Jupiter,
1079
00:53:53,920 –> 00:53:56,920
which would have been much brighter because they actually were close
1080
00:53:56,920 –> 00:54:01,320
enough like this one is that to the naked eye they
1081
00:54:01,320 –> 00:54:03,520
would have appeared as one star.
1082
00:54:03,520 –> 00:54:05,320
Unless you looked at it really carefully.
1083
00:54:06,600 –> 00:54:07,560
It's very possible.
1084
00:54:08,840 –> 00:54:13,600
It's just that since I am like our dear friend Gemini
1085
00:54:13,600 –> 00:54:21,180
Brett on the Storyteller and this is my starry story and
1086
00:54:21,180 –> 00:54:23,620
we can never prove which one is right.
1087
00:54:24,020 –> 00:54:29,500
But it's my sense that this story is more threatening to
1088
00:54:29,500 –> 00:54:33,060
the origins of Christianity being logical,
1089
00:54:33,460 –> 00:54:39,940
being astro logical than the,
1090
00:54:40,420 –> 00:54:40,860
you see,
1091
00:54:40,860 –> 00:54:43,980
the Venus Jupiter conjunction occurs every two years.
1092
00:54:44,940 –> 00:54:45,980
And it's,
1093
00:54:45,980 –> 00:54:48,580
and it doesn't have that whole connection with being of the
1094
00:54:48,580 –> 00:54:49,340
house of David,
1095
00:54:49,340 –> 00:54:50,460
the king of kings.
1096
00:54:50,780 –> 00:54:51,300
You know,
1097
00:54:51,300 –> 00:54:55,300
the, this connection of the importance that we've Talked about even
1098
00:54:55,300 –> 00:55:00,140
here in our last talk about the expansion contraction cycles,
1099
00:55:00,380 –> 00:55:00,820
you know,
1100
00:55:00,820 –> 00:55:04,620
of that Jupiter Saturn conjunction cycle that happens every,
1101
00:55:04,620 –> 00:55:05,820
every 20 years.
1102
00:55:07,020 –> 00:55:10,450
So here now coming up to date.
1103
00:55:10,450 –> 00:55:13,890
And I have to say that every year for the past.
1104
00:55:15,970 –> 00:55:20,090
Well, actually I know because I began doing this the year
1105
00:55:20,090 –> 00:55:21,170
my daughter was born,
1106
00:55:22,050 –> 00:55:24,130
which is right around the time you were born.
1107
00:55:25,170 –> 00:55:30,170
And that is that I've been writing a poem or I
1108
00:55:30,170 –> 00:55:34,690
did for about 25 years every year around the solstice.
1109
00:55:35,450 –> 00:55:36,410
And when we get to the end,
1110
00:55:36,410 –> 00:55:39,450
I'm going to close with one that is from a few
1111
00:55:39,450 –> 00:55:40,010
years ago,
1112
00:55:40,250 –> 00:55:46,530
but has particular resonance to right now because around this time
1113
00:55:46,530 –> 00:55:47,050
of year,
1114
00:55:47,850 –> 00:55:51,850
again, regardless of whether you celebrate Kwanzaa,
1115
00:55:52,330 –> 00:55:54,890
Hanukkah, the solstice,
1116
00:55:55,130 –> 00:55:58,010
Christmas, if you're in the Northern hemisphere,
1117
00:55:58,810 –> 00:56:02,900
the days get darker and the idea of the long night
1118
00:56:03,620 –> 00:56:06,900
and even the pre Judeo Christian,
1119
00:56:07,300 –> 00:56:07,980
the pagan,
1120
00:56:07,980 –> 00:56:10,180
the earth religions and understanding,
1121
00:56:10,340 –> 00:56:13,620
just the attachment to the darkening of the light and the
1122
00:56:13,620 –> 00:56:15,220
fear that the light won't return.
1123
00:56:15,620 –> 00:56:19,780
And then Christmas representing the hope of the light coming back,
1124
00:56:19,940 –> 00:56:25,300
whether it's every year or whether it's culturally or civilization wise,
1125
00:56:25,540 –> 00:56:29,060
that the light coming back through some teacher who has the
1126
00:56:29,060 –> 00:56:30,940
truth that may get us back on track.
1127
00:56:31,260 –> 00:56:32,660
It's all part of the same.
1128
00:56:32,660 –> 00:56:34,060
It's all part of the same story.
1129
00:56:34,540 –> 00:56:38,380
So for many years I would write around this time of
1130
00:56:38,380 –> 00:56:40,140
year a poem.
1131
00:56:40,700 –> 00:56:45,580
And I think it might have been in about 1994,
1132
00:56:45,930 –> 00:56:49,300
1993, 94,
1133
00:56:49,300 –> 00:56:50,380
somewhere right in there.
1134
00:56:51,900 –> 00:56:56,850
The now late great Noel Tyl astrologer who passed a year
1135
00:56:56,850 –> 00:57:02,330
ago now convinced me that I needed to take all of
1136
00:57:02,330 –> 00:57:04,770
my poems and put them together and put it into a
1137
00:57:04,770 –> 00:57:05,730
book, which I did.
1138
00:57:05,730 –> 00:57:06,970
It was a limited edition.
1139
00:57:07,290 –> 00:57:08,650
They were signed and numbered.
1140
00:57:08,650 –> 00:57:11,210
I have like a few copies left.
1141
00:57:11,610 –> 00:57:12,810
They're not for sale.
1142
00:57:13,930 –> 00:57:19,450
But the motion of every year now for 40 years of
1143
00:57:19,450 –> 00:57:22,930
going through this process of trying to revisit,
1144
00:57:23,240 –> 00:57:24,440
frame, re understand,
1145
00:57:25,160 –> 00:57:26,520
look at modern times,
1146
00:57:26,520 –> 00:57:27,400
what's the same,
1147
00:57:27,560 –> 00:57:28,360
what's different.
1148
00:57:28,760 –> 00:57:30,520
And every year I do this,
1149
00:57:32,360 –> 00:57:33,480
but this year is different.
1150
00:57:34,040 –> 00:57:36,520
And this year is different for a few reasons.
1151
00:57:36,840 –> 00:57:41,320
The primary reason is that this year there is a Jupiter
1152
00:57:41,320 –> 00:57:45,320
Saturn conjunction which happened back in 2001,
1153
00:57:46,280 –> 00:57:47,000
which happened,
1154
00:57:47,000 –> 00:57:48,200
but not on Christmas,
1155
00:57:48,610 –> 00:57:50,850
which happened in 1980,
1156
00:57:51,170 –> 00:57:53,090
but not on Christmas.
1157
00:57:53,410 –> 00:57:54,850
This one is happening.
1158
00:57:55,010 –> 00:57:57,250
Okay, it's not on Christmas,
1159
00:57:57,650 –> 00:58:00,450
but it's within a few days of Christmas.
1160
00:58:00,610 –> 00:58:01,170
You know,
1161
00:58:01,170 –> 00:58:04,530
the Romans celebrated the solstice on December 25th.
1162
00:58:04,690 –> 00:58:07,730
They did not celebrate the solstice on the 21st.
1163
00:58:08,050 –> 00:58:08,490
In fact,
1164
00:58:08,490 –> 00:58:12,090
we think in our minds that Christmas is a replacement for
1165
00:58:12,090 –> 00:58:13,330
the Saturnalia,
1166
00:58:13,810 –> 00:58:17,960
an interesting holiday that is oriented around the beginning of the
1167
00:58:17,960 –> 00:58:19,360
sun in Capricorn.
1168
00:58:19,520 –> 00:58:24,960
But the Saturnalia was actually before what they called the Solstice,
1169
00:58:25,120 –> 00:58:26,880
which was on December 25.
1170
00:58:28,320 –> 00:58:31,520
Anyhow, this idea that,
1171
00:58:31,600 –> 00:58:34,480
that this Christmas star,
1172
00:58:35,040 –> 00:58:39,920
that this Jupiter Saturn conjunction is so close to Christmas is
1173
00:58:40,000 –> 00:58:43,530
on the day of the solstice is in itself a little
1174
00:58:43,530 –> 00:58:44,410
mind boggling.
1175
00:58:44,570 –> 00:58:46,970
It's the first time any of us will have this happen.
1176
00:58:47,450 –> 00:58:51,050
And I am one of those astrologers that hates.
1177
00:58:51,050 –> 00:58:52,410
Okay, that's maybe strong.
1178
00:58:52,970 –> 00:58:54,650
Strongly dislikes.
1179
00:58:55,290 –> 00:58:57,170
It makes the hair on my back and yes,
1180
00:58:57,170 –> 00:58:58,370
I do have hair on my back.
1181
00:58:58,370 –> 00:59:00,890
It makes the hair on my back stand up on end.
1182
00:59:01,850 –> 00:59:05,810
When I read something that in any astrological page says this
1183
00:59:05,810 –> 00:59:09,210
is the first time this has happened in 37,000
1184
00:59:09,210 –> 00:59:12,800
years. This hasn't happened in 265 years.
1185
00:59:13,040 –> 00:59:14,000
This is so rare.
1186
00:59:14,000 –> 00:59:15,920
It hasn't happened since yesterday.
1187
00:59:16,000 –> 00:59:16,480
I mean,
1188
00:59:16,480 –> 00:59:16,960
you know,
1189
00:59:16,960 –> 00:59:20,800
we get carried away with the importance of things happening in
1190
00:59:20,800 –> 00:59:22,000
our lifetime.
1191
00:59:22,320 –> 00:59:25,400
Like I must say this whole thing about the age of
1192
00:59:25,400 –> 00:59:29,920
aquarius going back 200 years.
1193
00:59:30,160 –> 00:59:33,760
We have people who believe that the new age starts during
1194
00:59:33,760 –> 00:59:36,800
their lifetime because that's what we do.
1195
00:59:37,320 –> 00:59:39,520
We like to think that if that we're going to be
1196
00:59:39,520 –> 00:59:41,560
special, we're going to be here when the end of the
1197
00:59:41,560 –> 00:59:44,240
world is here or when the beginning of the kingdom of
1198
00:59:44,240 –> 00:59:45,800
God arrives or whatever.
1199
00:59:46,360 –> 00:59:51,720
And unfortunately there's a whole lot of mixed up mythology around
1200
00:59:52,120 –> 00:59:54,120
the beginning of the Age of Aquarius.
1201
00:59:54,280 –> 00:59:57,000
And without going too deeply into that right now,
1202
00:59:57,160 –> 01:00:02,040
I just want to say marking finding the moment of the
1203
01:00:02,200 –> 01:00:05,120
beginning of the Age of Aquarius is like finding a chart
1204
01:00:05,120 –> 01:00:06,120
for the birth of Jesus.
1205
01:00:06,200 –> 01:00:10,240
You can't do it because there's no way that we'll ever
1206
01:00:10,240 –> 01:00:13,840
know. And in order to find the exact moment of the
1207
01:00:13,840 –> 01:00:15,720
beginning of the age of Aquarius,
1208
01:00:15,960 –> 01:00:18,760
as if a cycle nearly 26,000
1209
01:00:18,760 –> 01:00:22,880
years long can have a finite moment in time where something
1210
01:00:22,880 –> 01:00:24,360
switches to something else,
1211
01:00:25,080 –> 01:00:26,600
which is kind of ridiculous.
1212
01:00:27,160 –> 01:00:29,770
The cusp between ages is,
1213
01:00:29,840 –> 01:00:32,400
is probably a good couple of hundred years long.
1214
01:00:32,800 –> 01:00:33,760
Think about that.
1215
01:00:33,840 –> 01:00:34,480
You know,
1216
01:00:35,600 –> 01:00:36,080
I mean,
1217
01:00:36,080 –> 01:00:38,120
normally when we think about our signs,
1218
01:00:38,120 –> 01:00:41,120
we give the cusp a day or so on either side
1219
01:00:41,360 –> 01:00:42,720
between two signs,
1220
01:00:42,720 –> 01:00:47,000
but that's over one year rather than a cycle that is
1221
01:00:47,000 –> 01:00:48,480
over 26,000
1222
01:00:48,800 –> 01:00:52,760
years. And so this idea of the Age of Aquarius began
1223
01:00:52,760 –> 01:00:57,700
in October of 1923 or in February of 1963 or,
1224
01:00:57,850 –> 01:01:02,890
or tomorrow is just simply an act of ignorance.
1225
01:01:03,450 –> 01:01:08,050
It's what we call overplaying the card of the margin of
1226
01:01:08,050 –> 01:01:10,970
error. There's more error involved than we can.
1227
01:01:11,130 –> 01:01:14,330
It's like we bounce around on the inside of the most
1228
01:01:14,330 –> 01:01:15,530
accurate that we can be.
1229
01:01:15,770 –> 01:01:16,490
We don't know.
1230
01:01:16,730 –> 01:01:20,690
And the real problem then becomes a fixing a day of
1231
01:01:20,690 –> 01:01:22,810
the beginning of the age of Pisces.
1232
01:01:23,130 –> 01:01:25,650
If we could give a beginning point to the age of
1233
01:01:25,650 –> 01:01:30,010
Pisces, that's we could come up with an approximately accurate beginning
1234
01:01:30,010 –> 01:01:31,850
point of the Age of Aquarius.
1235
01:01:32,090 –> 01:01:33,530
And it's my contention,
1236
01:01:33,770 –> 01:01:35,330
although I've read people who say,
1237
01:01:35,330 –> 01:01:39,290
oh, the Age of Aquarius obviously began with the flight of
1238
01:01:39,290 –> 01:01:41,690
the first airplane at Kitty Hawk,
1239
01:01:42,250 –> 01:01:45,130
or the advent of the computer and the Internet,
1240
01:01:45,290 –> 01:01:48,090
or the invention of electricity and Tesla,
1241
01:01:48,570 –> 01:01:50,650
or of the French Revolution and the.
1242
01:01:50,890 –> 01:01:53,810
All these dates are used as dates to prove that this
1243
01:01:53,810 –> 01:01:55,530
is the beginning of the Age of Aquarius.
1244
01:01:56,250 –> 01:02:01,010
Well, that's almost as dumb as saying I'm tall and skinny
1245
01:02:01,010 –> 01:02:01,730
and like to read,
1246
01:02:01,730 –> 01:02:03,130
therefore I'm a Gemini.
1247
01:02:04,570 –> 01:02:05,010
You know,
1248
01:02:05,010 –> 01:02:10,170
we can't backwards engineer something based upon one symptom or even
1249
01:02:10,170 –> 01:02:10,770
a few,
1250
01:02:10,770 –> 01:02:11,370
you know,
1251
01:02:11,370 –> 01:02:16,850
observations. The fact of the matter is that if we take
1252
01:02:16,850 –> 01:02:23,010
the tack that the star of Bethlehem in some way was
1253
01:02:23,010 –> 01:02:26,520
the herald of Hark,
1254
01:02:26,520 –> 01:02:32,680
the herald angels sing that the three kings from Orient are
1255
01:02:32,920 –> 01:02:37,640
who followed the star to actually honor and create this event,
1256
01:02:37,960 –> 01:02:41,160
that was the beginning of what we call the age of
1257
01:02:41,160 –> 01:02:45,640
Christianity. Although in modern academic times we've changed it to mean
1258
01:02:46,360 –> 01:02:47,640
the common error.
1259
01:02:48,040 –> 01:02:49,400
And that's error,
1260
01:02:49,400 –> 01:02:50,600
not error.
1261
01:02:51,520 –> 01:02:54,640
And that what we call the common Era.
1262
01:02:55,040 –> 01:03:02,080
We are in the 2020 first year of this era.
1263
01:03:02,400 –> 01:03:03,200
Well, I'm sorry,
1264
01:03:03,200 –> 01:03:08,200
but I don't need a whole lot more measuring than the
1265
01:03:08,200 –> 01:03:10,760
fact that this is the tool that we've been using to
1266
01:03:10,760 –> 01:03:15,680
measure this era or age for several hundred centuries.
1267
01:03:16,410 –> 01:03:16,970
And so,
1268
01:03:17,690 –> 01:03:21,330
and I'm not saying that the Age of Pisces began on
1269
01:03:21,330 –> 01:03:22,730
the day that Jesus was born.
1270
01:03:22,730 –> 01:03:24,170
We don't know the day he was born.
1271
01:03:24,170 –> 01:03:26,170
We don't even know the year he was born.
1272
01:03:27,850 –> 01:03:30,370
And I'm not even a Christian,
1273
01:03:30,370 –> 01:03:34,330
although I certainly adhere to many of the teachings of Jesus.
1274
01:03:34,570 –> 01:03:38,610
And I think it was Sren Kierkegaard who made the absolute
1275
01:03:38,610 –> 01:03:44,490
distinction between the church of Christ and the teachings of Christ,
1276
01:03:44,730 –> 01:03:46,090
two very different things.
1277
01:03:46,090 –> 01:03:47,850
They have unfortunately,
1278
01:03:47,850 –> 01:03:49,930
very little in common sometimes.
1279
01:03:51,370 –> 01:03:52,730
But regardless,
1280
01:03:53,210 –> 01:03:56,810
the fact of the matter is that the best marker that
1281
01:03:56,810 –> 01:03:59,930
we have for the beginning of the Age of Pisces,
1282
01:04:00,090 –> 01:04:02,170
the fish multiplicity,
1283
01:04:02,890 –> 01:04:05,770
the dividing of the loaves multiplicity,
1284
01:04:06,250 –> 01:04:09,930
the healing through the divine intervention through the priest,
1285
01:04:10,370 –> 01:04:11,810
where the symbols of Pisces,
1286
01:04:11,970 –> 01:04:16,130
the fish moving in two opposite Directions connected by a golden
1287
01:04:16,130 –> 01:04:18,530
thread that's reserved for the priesthood,
1288
01:04:18,610 –> 01:04:19,410
the mystical.
1289
01:04:19,570 –> 01:04:20,810
In the Age of Aquarius,
1290
01:04:20,810 –> 01:04:21,730
everyone gets it.
1291
01:04:21,810 –> 01:04:26,850
Look, everyone does not enter the new age at the same
1292
01:04:26,850 –> 01:04:31,050
time. There are people who enter a new way of thinking
1293
01:04:31,050 –> 01:04:32,470
or being 200,
1294
01:04:32,590 –> 01:04:34,050
300 years prior,
1295
01:04:34,370 –> 01:04:37,170
and there are those who enter two or 300 years later.
1296
01:04:37,650 –> 01:04:40,130
This is the difference between being a prophet and a slow
1297
01:04:40,130 –> 01:04:46,850
learner. And so I'm not suggesting that the Age of Aquarius
1298
01:04:47,090 –> 01:04:51,570
has not arrived metaphysically for some people.
1299
01:04:52,530 –> 01:04:54,850
But if you do the math,
1300
01:04:55,570 –> 01:04:56,490
it's very,
1301
01:04:56,490 –> 01:04:57,410
very simple.
1302
01:04:57,570 –> 01:05:04,970
And that is that it takes basically one degree of precession
1303
01:05:04,970 –> 01:05:07,050
occurs every 72 years.
1304
01:05:07,930 –> 01:05:10,810
One degree of precession occurs every 72years.
1305
01:05:10,970 –> 01:05:15,090
Which means that if you're using a division of the zodiac
1306
01:05:15,090 –> 01:05:16,090
based by 12,
1307
01:05:16,330 –> 01:05:19,770
meaning that there are 30 degrees in each sign,
1308
01:05:20,090 –> 01:05:26,250
that 30 times 72 is 2001 is 2160 years.
1309
01:05:26,970 –> 01:05:33,870
What that means is that the Age of Aquarius theoretically should
1310
01:05:33,870 –> 01:05:37,390
begin 2,160
1311
01:05:37,390 –> 01:05:38,830
years after the beginning.
1312
01:05:39,790 –> 01:05:41,950
And I just want to say for the people who are
1313
01:05:41,950 –> 01:05:47,870
watching, Amanda has a slow Internet connection and she just froze.
1314
01:05:48,190 –> 01:05:52,190
But she did not leave her body during those moments.
1315
01:05:53,230 –> 01:05:55,750
Anyhow, if one were to use the simple,
1316
01:05:55,750 –> 01:05:59,320
straightforward math and say that the birth of Jesus was the
1317
01:05:59,320 –> 01:06:01,360
moment of the beginning of the Age of Aquarius,
1318
01:06:01,440 –> 01:06:03,440
then we would say that the Age of Aquarius.
1319
01:06:03,440 –> 01:06:03,960
I'm sorry,
1320
01:06:03,960 –> 01:06:04,880
the Age of Pisces.
1321
01:06:05,120 –> 01:06:07,840
We would say the Age of Pisces began in 7 B.C.
1322
01:06:09,200 –> 01:06:12,720
which would mean that we have 2,153
1323
01:06:12,880 –> 01:06:14,960
years A.D.
1324
01:06:15,440 –> 01:06:18,880
to get to before we reach the Age of Aquarius,
1325
01:06:19,360 –> 01:06:23,530
which means that we're a good 130 years away from,
1326
01:06:23,680 –> 01:06:25,920
from actually the transition of the ages.
1327
01:06:26,080 –> 01:06:28,400
Now, does this mean that we're not getting glimpses?
1328
01:06:28,560 –> 01:06:31,440
Does this mean that every time we get an Aquarian buzz
1329
01:06:31,600 –> 01:06:34,480
like we did back in February of 1962,
1330
01:06:34,560 –> 01:06:37,280
or like we did during the conjunctions of Saturn,
1331
01:06:37,280 –> 01:06:40,940
Uranus and Neptune and 89 through 94,
1332
01:06:41,100 –> 01:06:43,760
95, we're getting buzzes,
1333
01:06:43,760 –> 01:06:44,720
we're getting glimpses,
1334
01:06:44,720 –> 01:06:45,920
we're getting like,
1335
01:06:45,920 –> 01:06:47,360
harmonic overtones.
1336
01:06:47,760 –> 01:06:49,680
But this is not the age.
1337
01:06:50,170 –> 01:06:54,610
An age has nothing to do with the movement of the
1338
01:06:54,610 –> 01:06:56,410
planets around the Zodiac,
1339
01:06:57,050 –> 01:07:01,610
period. Anyone who's saying that it's devised from that doesn't understand
1340
01:07:02,250 –> 01:07:06,850
that an age is a phenomenon based upon the backward wobble
1341
01:07:06,850 –> 01:07:07,530
of Earth.
1342
01:07:07,610 –> 01:07:09,210
That's a 26,000.
1343
01:07:09,290 –> 01:07:11,770
Actually, it's a little bit less than 26,000
1344
01:07:11,770 –> 01:07:13,850
years as the Earth wobbles around,
1345
01:07:13,930 –> 01:07:17,110
creating what we call the precession of the equinox enough there.
1346
01:07:17,350 –> 01:07:17,950
I just.
1347
01:07:17,950 –> 01:07:22,470
We can't talk about the Christmas star without saying that,
1348
01:07:22,630 –> 01:07:24,710
yes, this is a very special event.
1349
01:07:25,670 –> 01:07:30,140
Yes, this relates back to what happened 20,
1350
01:07:30,440 –> 01:07:32,470
27 years ago.
1351
01:07:33,510 –> 01:07:34,310
But no,
1352
01:07:34,550 –> 01:07:38,350
this is not a moment where we are now all of
1353
01:07:38,350 –> 01:07:42,950
a sudden in an age of Aquarius that we have another
1354
01:07:43,030 –> 01:07:44,790
century most likely to go.
1355
01:07:45,430 –> 01:07:45,870
And yet,
1356
01:07:45,870 –> 01:07:47,350
whatever belief you hold,
1357
01:07:48,790 –> 01:07:50,310
I'm not going to change your mind,
1358
01:07:50,950 –> 01:07:51,990
even if you're wrong.
1359
01:07:54,630 –> 01:07:57,390
Okay, so in summary,
1360
01:07:57,390 –> 01:08:00,870
Rick, and actually it's funny because every time I receive an
1361
01:08:00,870 –> 01:08:02,950
email or hear someone talking about this,
1362
01:08:02,950 –> 01:08:06,070
I think of you and I think of you just cringing
1363
01:08:06,070 –> 01:08:09,670
and really trying to make the point about why this is
1364
01:08:09,670 –> 01:08:12,830
not actually a pinpointed moment where we're going to the age
1365
01:08:12,830 –> 01:08:13,510
of Aquarius.
1366
01:08:13,990 –> 01:08:17,890
And it makes me smile and you make great points and
1367
01:08:17,970 –> 01:08:19,170
it makes a lot of sense.
1368
01:08:19,730 –> 01:08:27,130
So basically what you're saying is that the echo of the
1369
01:08:27,130 –> 01:08:30,530
event that is the star of Bethlehem,
1370
01:08:30,770 –> 01:08:33,330
that the three wise men or the three kings,
1371
01:08:34,610 –> 01:08:35,490
three priests,
1372
01:08:35,650 –> 01:08:37,170
Magi were following,
1373
01:08:38,770 –> 01:08:42,370
the significance of that one versus the Jupiter Saturn conjunction that
1374
01:08:42,370 –> 01:08:45,580
happens every 20 years is that it was a shift in
1375
01:08:45,580 –> 01:08:47,100
element. That's right.
1376
01:08:47,100 –> 01:08:49,020
It was not only a grand conjunction,
1377
01:08:49,100 –> 01:08:53,180
it was a great mutation which is the once every 200
1378
01:08:53,180 –> 01:08:54,540
year shifting.
1379
01:08:54,700 –> 01:08:57,300
And people are saying this is a once in 800 year
1380
01:08:57,300 –> 01:08:58,700
event, you know.
1381
01:08:58,700 –> 01:09:01,820
Yes, it was 800 years ago approximately that we had the
1382
01:09:01,820 –> 01:09:02,540
air element.
1383
01:09:02,620 –> 01:09:08,140
But it's really a 202 century cycling of shifting,
1384
01:09:08,140 –> 01:09:09,820
roughly. And it's not exactly that.
1385
01:09:10,070 –> 01:09:12,390
This one turns out to be more like 160 years.
1386
01:09:12,470 –> 01:09:15,270
And one other thing is that even if you're using that,
1387
01:09:15,430 –> 01:09:16,710
this isn't the mutation.
1388
01:09:16,710 –> 01:09:18,470
The mutation occurred in 1980.
1389
01:09:18,870 –> 01:09:22,150
There was a Jupiter Saturn conjunction in 1980,
1390
01:09:22,310 –> 01:09:22,870
you know,
1391
01:09:22,870 –> 01:09:24,150
in air signs,
1392
01:09:24,550 –> 01:09:25,510
in Libra,
1393
01:09:25,910 –> 01:09:29,230
and then it backed up into Earth and now it's in
1394
01:09:29,230 –> 01:09:33,510
Libra. But technically this is not the mutation that was.
1395
01:09:33,590 –> 01:09:34,950
But, but even still,
1396
01:09:35,110 –> 01:09:36,710
this kind of confirms it.
1397
01:09:36,790 –> 01:09:38,320
It's like when a planet like,
1398
01:09:38,320 –> 01:09:40,360
it's like when Saturn moved into Aquarius,
1399
01:09:40,520 –> 01:09:40,960
you know,
1400
01:09:40,960 –> 01:09:41,880
earlier this year,
1401
01:09:41,960 –> 01:09:43,240
back into Capricorn.
1402
01:09:43,320 –> 01:09:45,080
Now it's really an Aquarius.
1403
01:09:45,400 –> 01:09:46,480
Right, okay,
1404
01:09:46,480 –> 01:09:48,200
so a similar thing was happening then.
1405
01:09:48,360 –> 01:09:52,440
Yes. Going into water,
1406
01:09:52,840 –> 01:09:54,040
it went into Pisces,
1407
01:09:54,280 –> 01:09:56,360
from air into water,
1408
01:09:56,440 –> 01:09:57,400
went into Pisces.
1409
01:09:57,800 –> 01:10:02,480
And that was the quote unquote House of David or that
1410
01:10:02,480 –> 01:10:05,690
was the sign associated with the Jews.
1411
01:10:06,490 –> 01:10:07,250
Yeah, yeah.
1412
01:10:07,250 –> 01:10:08,890
Okay. So that's why they were,
1413
01:10:09,050 –> 01:10:11,770
that's why they were saying that the king of the Jews
1414
01:10:11,850 –> 01:10:13,610
is going to be born.
1415
01:10:13,690 –> 01:10:16,010
Yeah. And that was actually what it Says in Matthew.
1416
01:10:16,010 –> 01:10:20,570
I mean the line is where,
1417
01:10:21,130 –> 01:10:24,810
where is he who has been born King of the Jews?
1418
01:10:25,770 –> 01:10:26,650
Right. I mean,
1419
01:10:26,650 –> 01:10:28,250
it's not said pejoratively.
1420
01:10:28,330 –> 01:10:29,450
That's what it was.
1421
01:10:30,010 –> 01:10:30,940
Right. So,
1422
01:10:30,940 –> 01:10:35,340
so, so there's good reason to believe that it was a
1423
01:10:35,340 –> 01:10:36,700
Jupiter Saturn conjunction,
1424
01:10:36,700 –> 01:10:40,220
that it was the Jupiter Saturn conjunction that moved into Pisces.
1425
01:10:40,780 –> 01:10:44,420
There's other theories that it could have been Jupiter and Venus
1426
01:10:44,420 –> 01:10:46,460
conjunct into B.C.
1427
01:10:47,020 –> 01:10:48,780
but that happens every two years.
1428
01:10:49,260 –> 01:10:52,780
Yeah, but there are extenuating circumstances about that one.
1429
01:10:52,780 –> 01:10:55,980
And I don't want to take that off the table.
1430
01:10:55,980 –> 01:10:57,180
It just doesn't,
1431
01:10:57,180 –> 01:10:58,940
it just doesn't seem as likely to me.
1432
01:10:59,300 –> 01:11:00,020
Okay, possible,
1433
01:11:00,260 –> 01:11:01,380
but maybe not.
1434
01:11:01,380 –> 01:11:01,940
We don't know.
1435
01:11:01,940 –> 01:11:05,220
And you're saying that the explanation that it was Jupiter and
1436
01:11:05,220 –> 01:11:11,020
Saturn is a little bit more threatening because it is more
1437
01:11:11,020 –> 01:11:13,540
astrologically based than the other theories,
1438
01:11:13,540 –> 01:11:16,660
that the other one is more astronomically based and visual.
1439
01:11:16,900 –> 01:11:18,100
And this has the,
1440
01:11:18,180 –> 01:11:21,020
the wiring into the whole component.
1441
01:11:21,020 –> 01:11:21,500
I mean,
1442
01:11:21,500 –> 01:11:22,100
I often,
1443
01:11:22,340 –> 01:11:24,500
I've said to a number of people,
1444
01:11:25,510 –> 01:11:25,870
you know,
1445
01:11:25,870 –> 01:11:29,510
who have kind of chastised me for being an astrologer,
1446
01:11:29,670 –> 01:11:30,190
you know,
1447
01:11:30,190 –> 01:11:30,990
and you know,
1448
01:11:30,990 –> 01:11:33,830
and how the Bible says you shouldn't do astrology.
1449
01:11:33,990 –> 01:11:38,070
And my answer is it's odd to me that Jesus only
1450
01:11:38,070 –> 01:11:39,830
invited three outsiders.
1451
01:11:39,830 –> 01:11:41,910
Aside from the shepherds who happened to have been around,
1452
01:11:42,230 –> 01:11:45,550
he only invited three non family members to the birth and
1453
01:11:45,550 –> 01:11:46,870
they were all astrologers,
1454
01:11:47,270 –> 01:11:47,790
you know,
1455
01:11:47,790 –> 01:11:49,270
did he know something you don't know?
1456
01:11:49,990 –> 01:11:51,550
Right. Okay.
1457
01:11:51,710 –> 01:11:52,230
All right.
1458
01:11:52,230 –> 01:11:55,710
I have one more question for you again.
1459
01:11:55,790 –> 01:11:56,790
Video is frozen,
1460
01:11:56,790 –> 01:11:57,910
but we can hear you fine.
1461
01:11:57,910 –> 01:11:58,750
Okay. All right.
1462
01:11:58,750 –> 01:12:00,430
Well, hopefully I'm not doing something really weird.
1463
01:12:01,630 –> 01:12:06,310
Is this Jupiter Saturn conjunction happening on the solstice?
1464
01:12:06,310 –> 01:12:07,430
I asked you this two weeks ago.
1465
01:12:07,430 –> 01:12:08,990
I don't know if you were able to look into it.
1466
01:12:09,710 –> 01:12:14,670
Has the Jupiter Saturn conjunction ever happened on the solstice?
1467
01:12:15,230 –> 01:12:16,910
Maybe, but not in recent history.
1468
01:12:17,990 –> 01:12:18,630
Recent history.
1469
01:12:18,630 –> 01:12:20,870
Like within 80 years,
1470
01:12:21,030 –> 01:12:21,950
couple hundred years.
1471
01:12:21,950 –> 01:12:24,870
Okay. And so theoretically there is.
1472
01:12:25,270 –> 01:12:28,030
I know we want there to be significance and I think
1473
01:12:28,030 –> 01:12:32,070
after this year it feels like there is significance.
1474
01:12:32,390 –> 01:12:34,390
And I hear what you're saying about every,
1475
01:12:34,710 –> 01:12:37,670
everyone playing up the time that they're living in.
1476
01:12:39,430 –> 01:12:42,630
But would you say that there is extra significance to it
1477
01:12:42,630 –> 01:12:44,310
happening on the solstice?
1478
01:12:44,950 –> 01:12:46,430
Yes. Yeah,
1479
01:12:46,430 –> 01:12:49,790
because the solstices are the cross quarters.
1480
01:12:49,790 –> 01:12:51,270
Those are Saturn's points.
1481
01:12:51,670 –> 01:12:55,670
Those are the 90 degree angles where physical reality manifests.
1482
01:12:55,750 –> 01:13:00,470
This is something we delved into very deeply in Module 1
1483
01:13:00,550 –> 01:13:05,670
of the Astrology foundations course as to why the cardinal cross.
1484
01:13:06,230 –> 01:13:06,710
And again,
1485
01:13:06,710 –> 01:13:07,270
I did this.
1486
01:13:07,270 –> 01:13:09,350
I felt Very Catholic in this moment,
1487
01:13:10,210 –> 01:13:16,010
that this motion is basically delineating the 90 degree angle that's
1488
01:13:16,010 –> 01:13:19,810
the top part of Saturn and the bottom part of Jupiter.
1489
01:13:19,970 –> 01:13:24,930
That 90 degree angle is the cross of material world.
1490
01:13:25,170 –> 01:13:29,250
The word cardinal actually comes from the.
1491
01:13:29,410 –> 01:13:32,450
From the Latin word cardo,
1492
01:13:32,530 –> 01:13:34,130
which means hinge.
1493
01:13:34,370 –> 01:13:37,090
And a hinge basically is something that doesn't move.
1494
01:13:37,170 –> 01:13:38,760
It's. Even though everything else does.
1495
01:13:38,920 –> 01:13:41,640
It's why the cardinals were given the name cardinals,
1496
01:13:41,720 –> 01:13:44,600
because even though the politics of the times changed,
1497
01:13:44,600 –> 01:13:45,800
they held their position.
1498
01:13:47,800 –> 01:13:48,440
And so,
1499
01:13:48,440 –> 01:13:53,320
yes, it's very significant that it occurs on a cardinal point.
1500
01:13:53,320 –> 01:13:56,160
Absolutely. Okay,
1501
01:13:56,160 –> 01:13:59,480
well, I'm going with the Christmas star and the star of
1502
01:13:59,480 –> 01:14:03,800
the Bethlehem and this Jupiter Saturn conjunction being very,
1503
01:14:03,800 –> 01:14:08,400
very similar in tone and potential significance.
1504
01:14:09,200 –> 01:14:14,080
And it's super interesting and we'll see what happens.
1505
01:14:14,400 –> 01:14:18,240
Yes. And if we have reached our end point,
1506
01:14:19,200 –> 01:14:23,760
I would like to close with a poem.
1507
01:14:24,560 –> 01:14:25,360
Yes, please.
1508
01:14:27,840 –> 01:14:30,440
And I think in some ways it will summarize a lot
1509
01:14:30,440 –> 01:14:31,280
of what we said.
1510
01:14:32,140 –> 01:14:35,420
There are a few historical references in here that may feel
1511
01:14:35,420 –> 01:14:36,820
like they're from a few years ago,
1512
01:14:36,820 –> 01:14:37,500
and they are,
1513
01:14:37,500 –> 01:14:39,580
but it's basically current.
1514
01:14:40,940 –> 01:14:41,860
Are we ready?
1515
01:14:41,860 –> 01:14:42,540
Shall I?
1516
01:14:42,860 –> 01:14:43,540
Oh, yes,
1517
01:14:43,540 –> 01:14:51,660
please. This is the most precious time of year when nights
1518
01:14:51,660 –> 01:14:52,300
get long,
1519
01:14:52,860 –> 01:14:57,660
dark, deep and clear Spirits soar,
1520
01:14:57,740 –> 01:14:59,060
hearts open wide.
1521
01:14:59,060 –> 01:15:01,020
When in the north the sun does hide,
1522
01:15:01,180 –> 01:15:03,340
we see the frozen countryside.
1523
01:15:03,960 –> 01:15:07,000
It seems like natural beauty has died.
1524
01:15:08,280 –> 01:15:10,440
The flowers once blossomed,
1525
01:15:10,520 –> 01:15:15,320
now gone to their grave with winter's arrival we must all
1526
01:15:15,320 –> 01:15:16,040
be brave,
1527
01:15:16,280 –> 01:15:17,840
for in winter so cold,
1528
01:15:17,840 –> 01:15:19,080
so dark and so deep.
1529
01:15:19,320 –> 01:15:22,280
Memories of flowers are hard to keep,
1530
01:15:22,920 –> 01:15:24,360
but cycles are endless.
1531
01:15:24,360 –> 01:15:25,640
They keep spinning around.
1532
01:15:25,720 –> 01:15:29,360
The sun will return to warm up the ground and the
1533
01:15:29,360 –> 01:15:34,310
beautiful blossoms now gone from our view Will return from their
1534
01:15:34,310 –> 01:15:37,750
graves to be reborn anew.
1535
01:15:39,110 –> 01:15:45,270
So at this most precious time of year for flowers passed
1536
01:15:45,270 –> 01:15:46,950
on, shed not a tear,
1537
01:15:47,350 –> 01:15:51,550
feel not sorrow for what now is gone and remember that
1538
01:15:51,550 –> 01:15:53,190
time must always move on.
1539
01:15:53,590 –> 01:15:56,870
Now as the sun sets early each day,
1540
01:15:57,110 –> 01:15:59,380
we may fear that that it has gone away.
1541
01:15:59,380 –> 01:16:00,740
But cycles are endless.
1542
01:16:00,980 –> 01:16:02,420
We keep spinning around.
1543
01:16:02,420 –> 01:16:05,380
The sun will return to warm up the ground.
1544
01:16:06,420 –> 01:16:09,300
And at this time of year we look back on our
1545
01:16:09,300 –> 01:16:14,660
past to remember a time when the earth seemed so vast.
1546
01:16:15,140 –> 01:16:18,900
A time when the skies were reserved for the birds,
1547
01:16:19,380 –> 01:16:22,900
the dreams of a few and the flight of their words.
1548
01:16:23,700 –> 01:16:28,450
A time when a star shined so brightly to some who
1549
01:16:28,450 –> 01:16:33,690
journeyed afar to his birth they did come bearing gifts of
1550
01:16:33,690 –> 01:16:36,210
spirit for the birth of a child,
1551
01:16:36,690 –> 01:16:42,730
an innocent babe Midst times oh so wild we remember that
1552
01:16:42,730 –> 01:16:47,130
time when he walked here on earth his remnants now Tied
1553
01:16:47,130 –> 01:16:51,730
to a dying old church that invests its riches rather than
1554
01:16:51,730 –> 01:16:55,650
helping the poor that holds onto a structure to so sick
1555
01:16:55,730 –> 01:17:00,410
at the core that teaches intolerance that closes the door While
1556
01:17:00,410 –> 01:17:05,570
politicians and generals plan the next war this holiday season is
1557
01:17:05,650 –> 01:17:10,010
more precious than some the events of our time have made
1558
01:17:10,010 –> 01:17:14,570
us quite numb we can see the hypocrisy each day on
1559
01:17:14,570 –> 01:17:20,730
the news Regardless of differing political views but shed not a
1560
01:17:20,730 –> 01:17:24,900
tear for the death of a child A casualty of these
1561
01:17:24,900 –> 01:17:30,860
times so wild where children of Palestine and Israel suffer While
1562
01:17:30,860 –> 01:17:35,700
leaders are asleep at the wheel what meaning in Afghanistan has
1563
01:17:35,700 –> 01:17:37,780
peace on earth goodwill to man?
1564
01:17:38,180 –> 01:17:43,140
Do innocent families bombed in Iraq deserve the brunt of our
1565
01:17:43,140 –> 01:17:44,020
lethal attack?
1566
01:17:44,740 –> 01:17:48,300
We send our soldiers and our missiles of hate can we
1567
01:17:48,300 –> 01:17:51,660
change this trend before it's too late?
1568
01:17:52,380 –> 01:17:56,340
In freedom's name we mount a global attack but to the
1569
01:17:56,340 –> 01:18:00,100
needy at home we just turn our back we live in
1570
01:18:00,100 –> 01:18:04,300
the richest nation on earth but don't stop to think or
1571
01:18:04,300 –> 01:18:08,300
to see what it's worth We've taken the magic of solstice
1572
01:18:08,700 –> 01:18:12,220
and turned it around Till the ring of a cash sale
1573
01:18:12,220 –> 01:18:16,300
is the most holy sound but there's a flame of awareness
1574
01:18:16,300 –> 01:18:21,260
now alive in the land that sparks freedom of thought even
1575
01:18:21,260 –> 01:18:25,740
where banned and banned it is for it's disruptive to those
1576
01:18:26,060 –> 01:18:31,500
who play on our fears while their profit grows Stupidity and
1577
01:18:31,500 –> 01:18:36,100
hate and short sighted greed Rule some who now rule but
1578
01:18:36,100 –> 01:18:37,740
it's not what we need.
1579
01:18:37,900 –> 01:18:41,100
We don't need profits from oil to pay for our wars
1580
01:18:41,390 –> 01:18:45,350
we don't need to lock freedom behind closed doors we don't
1581
01:18:45,350 –> 01:18:49,270
need to hide from the truth anymore that we've become our
1582
01:18:49,270 –> 01:18:51,310
very own prisoners of war.
1583
01:18:51,470 –> 01:18:55,030
But a war on terror will never be won by terrorizing
1584
01:18:55,030 –> 01:18:57,070
others at the point of a gun.
1585
01:18:57,710 –> 01:19:03,030
Technology's changed all things for once and for all the Earth
1586
01:19:03,030 –> 01:19:04,350
has grown tiny.
1587
01:19:04,590 –> 01:19:09,030
A planet so small that the death of a soldier in
1588
01:19:09,030 –> 01:19:13,590
Kabul or Baghdad is like feeling the death of our own
1589
01:19:13,670 –> 01:19:14,950
dear comrade.
1590
01:19:15,510 –> 01:19:19,030
What happens in Afghanistan affects the folks in every land.
1591
01:19:19,270 –> 01:19:23,830
Israel and Palestine with their fears wash the planet in painful
1592
01:19:23,830 –> 01:19:28,030
tears. Repression in China sends out a wave that does a
1593
01:19:28,030 –> 01:19:29,510
part of each enslave.
1594
01:19:29,750 –> 01:19:34,640
Oil spilled on foreign shore sends the message home once more.
1595
01:19:34,880 –> 01:19:35,840
Muslim, Christian,
1596
01:19:35,840 –> 01:19:36,560
Buddhist, Jew,
1597
01:19:36,560 –> 01:19:40,800
Pagan, Mormon or Hindu we're all part of a greater whole.
1598
01:19:41,280 –> 01:19:44,080
We are each part of the human soul.
1599
01:19:45,040 –> 01:19:50,160
Technology is singing a sad requiem for those who still think
1600
01:19:50,480 –> 01:19:52,400
there's an us and a them.
1601
01:19:53,360 –> 01:19:58,320
The media have shrunk this planet so small that there's no
1602
01:19:58,320 –> 01:20:05,690
room for misplaced emotions at all the apparent distinction between us
1603
01:20:05,690 –> 01:20:10,490
and them resides only in what we must condemn.
1604
01:20:10,570 –> 01:20:12,130
We condemn what we fear.
1605
01:20:12,130 –> 01:20:13,370
We turn it to hate.
1606
01:20:13,530 –> 01:20:15,530
And in this ignorant act,
1607
01:20:15,770 –> 01:20:18,090
we seal our own fate.
1608
01:20:18,490 –> 01:20:21,450
But Dams can't hold back the anger and fear.
1609
01:20:21,450 –> 01:20:23,210
We must deal with our feelings.
1610
01:20:23,210 –> 01:20:25,530
So let me be clear.
1611
01:20:26,010 –> 01:20:30,330
We can each help right now in our own little way
1612
01:20:30,890 –> 01:20:33,930
by making the right little choices today.
1613
01:20:34,730 –> 01:20:38,730
As we eliminate wars amongst family and friend,
1614
01:20:39,130 –> 01:20:41,410
peace will spread and conflicts will end.
1615
01:20:41,410 –> 01:20:45,650
Global change takes place in the heart with each of us
1616
01:20:45,650 –> 01:20:48,410
playing our own little part.
1617
01:20:49,610 –> 01:20:51,490
So at this precious time of year,
1618
01:20:51,490 –> 01:20:53,130
let us not succumb to fear.
1619
01:20:53,290 –> 01:20:54,890
Let us not feel terrified,
1620
01:20:55,550 –> 01:20:57,350
insecure, or stuck inside.
1621
01:20:57,350 –> 01:21:00,190
Let's make a commitment to make a new peace.
1622
01:21:00,430 –> 01:21:05,350
And on this longest night release our fears that were stirred
1623
01:21:05,350 –> 01:21:06,750
for political cause.
1624
01:21:06,910 –> 01:21:11,030
And on this longest night take pause from neurotic wars of
1625
01:21:11,030 –> 01:21:17,070
religious control as we reclaim the joy of body and soul
1626
01:21:17,550 –> 01:21:18,830
this time of year.
1627
01:21:19,150 –> 01:21:24,430
These days of rest when Persian Magi journeyed west,
1628
01:21:24,990 –> 01:21:27,870
we each share in love.
1629
01:21:28,030 –> 01:21:29,790
We bask in love's glow.
1630
01:21:29,790 –> 01:21:30,830
We have one another.
1631
01:21:31,390 –> 01:21:32,510
That's all I know.
1632
01:21:32,910 –> 01:21:36,750
And I know that this truth handed down from the past
1633
01:21:37,230 –> 01:21:39,070
is most urgent now.
1634
01:21:39,070 –> 01:21:40,830
And I hold to it fast.
1635
01:21:40,990 –> 01:21:44,750
It's a truth handed down from days of old,
1636
01:21:45,230 –> 01:21:49,560
A truth worth its very own weight in gold.
1637
01:21:50,120 –> 01:21:53,480
Just look into your heart and to the stars above and
1638
01:21:53,480 –> 01:21:56,120
remember the ancient truth we call love.
1639
01:21:56,360 –> 01:22:01,400
And as another year slides into the past remember that even
1640
01:22:01,560 –> 01:22:06,600
these crazy times won't last now lest you think I've given
1641
01:22:06,600 –> 01:22:11,360
up I'll ask you please to lift your cup filled with
1642
01:22:11,360 –> 01:22:15,300
kindness, love and the power of light and truth that turns
1643
01:22:15,300 –> 01:22:19,180
the darkness bright on the shortest day this deepest night we
1644
01:22:19,180 –> 01:22:21,580
toast to all who've done it right,
1645
01:22:21,820 –> 01:22:24,300
who've stood their ground while facing fear,
1646
01:22:24,300 –> 01:22:27,660
who've stood for truth and stood sincere.
1647
01:22:27,900 –> 01:22:30,300
We look back through the lens of time.
1648
01:22:31,100 –> 01:22:32,380
We tell our tales.
1649
01:22:32,780 –> 01:22:34,060
I write my rhyme.
1650
01:22:34,380 –> 01:22:36,700
We hold our candles to the dark.
1651
01:22:37,100 –> 01:22:40,900
The light of love creates a spark that sets the atmosphere
1652
01:22:40,900 –> 01:22:45,530
aflame with truth that puts the world to shame.
1653
01:22:46,410 –> 01:22:48,090
So here's my toast.
1654
01:22:48,890 –> 01:22:52,170
To lasting peace that starts inside.
1655
01:22:52,730 –> 01:22:55,370
To every teacher who's been a good guide.
1656
01:22:55,850 –> 01:22:58,970
To every child born in every nation.
1657
01:22:59,370 –> 01:23:03,690
To every human congregation that aspires toward peace and love.
1658
01:23:03,690 –> 01:23:06,090
To the glory of the stars above.
1659
01:23:06,250 –> 01:23:09,770
To the lasting magic of this time of year and to
1660
01:23:09,770 –> 01:23:12,730
everyone both far and near.
1661
01:23:13,130 –> 01:23:16,490
And to the darkness that heralds the coming light.
1662
01:23:17,050 –> 01:23:19,370
Soulful solstice to all.
1663
01:23:19,930 –> 01:23:21,770
And to all a good night.
1664
01:23:29,050 –> 01:23:33,290
Wow. That's what I do.
1665
01:23:34,170 –> 01:23:37,770
Wow. You write this every year on the Solstice,
1666
01:23:38,430 –> 01:23:39,550
right around this time of year.
1667
01:23:39,710 –> 01:23:42,910
Yeah. This one is a compendium of several.
1668
01:23:43,390 –> 01:23:43,950
This is.
1669
01:23:44,350 –> 01:23:47,150
This is what we astrologers would call a composite.
1670
01:23:48,350 –> 01:23:50,190
Wow. It is so amazing.
1671
01:23:50,510 –> 01:23:53,150
Do we have your permission to post it somewhere?
1672
01:23:53,310 –> 01:23:53,830
We do,
1673
01:23:53,830 –> 01:23:55,310
and I will send you the words.
1674
01:23:55,630 –> 01:23:56,590
Okay, thank you.
1675
01:23:56,590 –> 01:23:58,750
And I want to read it to my daughters.
1676
01:23:59,150 –> 01:23:59,510
I mean,
1677
01:23:59,510 –> 01:24:00,990
that is the messaging.
1678
01:24:01,230 –> 01:24:03,710
Again, this isn't a sales pitch because there aren't any left
1679
01:24:03,710 –> 01:24:04,110
of these,
1680
01:24:04,730 –> 01:24:06,170
but this was the book,
1681
01:24:06,170 –> 01:24:07,450
the gift of the Magi,
1682
01:24:07,690 –> 01:24:10,330
and it was titled Christmas for a New Millennium.
1683
01:24:10,570 –> 01:24:13,730
And it was filled with eight of these poems with the
1684
01:24:13,730 –> 01:24:17,050
story. And I get.
1685
01:24:17,050 –> 01:24:17,530
I mean,
1686
01:24:17,530 –> 01:24:18,570
I printed,
1687
01:24:18,570 –> 01:24:19,130
I think,
1688
01:24:19,210 –> 01:24:20,650
2,500 of them.
1689
01:24:20,730 –> 01:24:21,610
They're all sold.
1690
01:24:21,610 –> 01:24:22,010
This was,
1691
01:24:22,010 –> 01:24:22,730
like, years ago,
1692
01:24:23,050 –> 01:24:26,250
but every year I get emails from people saying,
1693
01:24:26,250 –> 01:24:28,810
we just opened up our Christmas box and your book is
1694
01:24:28,810 –> 01:24:31,540
it. And every year we pick one or two of the
1695
01:24:31,540 –> 01:24:33,420
poems and read them on Christmas Eve.
1696
01:24:33,820 –> 01:24:34,460
And it's.
1697
01:24:34,620 –> 01:24:35,420
So, yeah,
1698
01:24:35,980 –> 01:24:36,860
it's definitely.
1699
01:24:37,420 –> 01:24:39,660
It's my version of A Night Before Christmas.
1700
01:24:39,660 –> 01:24:40,700
And incidentally,
1701
01:24:40,940 –> 01:24:42,060
one of my poems.
1702
01:24:42,060 –> 01:24:43,660
I'm not gonna read you another whole poem,
1703
01:24:43,660 –> 01:24:45,580
but one of them started.
1704
01:24:47,340 –> 01:24:48,860
This was written in the 90s.
1705
01:24:49,100 –> 01:24:50,500
TWAS the Decade of change,
1706
01:24:50,500 –> 01:24:51,660
and all over the earth,
1707
01:24:51,660 –> 01:24:53,820
a new human vision was ready for birth.
1708
01:24:53,820 –> 01:24:54,460
And I,
1709
01:24:54,460 –> 01:24:55,420
in my own way,
1710
01:24:55,420 –> 01:24:58,590
had just settled down to write all about what I see
1711
01:24:58,590 –> 01:24:59,750
around and blah,
1712
01:24:59,750 –> 01:25:00,150
blah, blah,
1713
01:25:00,150 –> 01:25:01,310
blah. And it was basically,
1714
01:25:01,950 –> 01:25:03,790
it was the night before Christmas poem.
1715
01:25:04,510 –> 01:25:05,150
Love it.
1716
01:25:05,870 –> 01:25:10,110
I'm wondering if there's any way I can convince you to
1717
01:25:10,350 –> 01:25:12,350
potentially put those out again.
1718
01:25:14,750 –> 01:25:15,630
Probably not.
1719
01:25:16,670 –> 01:25:17,950
Not playing hard to get.
1720
01:25:18,030 –> 01:25:19,470
Rick. Thank you so much.
1721
01:25:19,870 –> 01:25:23,720
I feel like I can very confidently now say,
1722
01:25:23,950 –> 01:25:27,870
speak about what's happening in the sky and how it relates
1723
01:25:27,870 –> 01:25:31,470
to the star of Bethlehem and the Christmas star.
1724
01:25:31,470 –> 01:25:34,430
And it just feels very anchored in now.
1725
01:25:34,510 –> 01:25:35,390
Thank you very much.
1726
01:25:35,390 –> 01:25:36,190
Yeah, this is.
1727
01:25:36,590 –> 01:25:37,550
Look. Yeah,
1728
01:25:37,710 –> 01:25:39,310
it's a magical time of year,
1729
01:25:39,310 –> 01:25:40,910
whatever you want to call it,
1730
01:25:40,990 –> 01:25:42,030
it doesn't matter.
1731
01:25:42,350 –> 01:25:45,150
Even if you are in the southern hemisphere and you're in
1732
01:25:45,150 –> 01:25:47,230
mid summer and it's the longest day,
1733
01:25:47,310 –> 01:25:48,510
meaning the brightest,
1734
01:25:48,510 –> 01:25:49,710
hottest day of the year.
1735
01:25:50,580 –> 01:25:53,140
It doesn't matter where we are certainly in the north.
1736
01:25:53,300 –> 01:25:55,060
And the further north we go,
1737
01:25:55,380 –> 01:25:59,460
the more severe the darkness is and the more magical the
1738
01:25:59,460 –> 01:26:01,620
potential of what might come of it,
1739
01:26:01,780 –> 01:26:04,180
I think is metaphysically speaking.
1740
01:26:04,500 –> 01:26:05,340
So, you know,
1741
01:26:05,340 –> 01:26:07,460
blessings to you,
1742
01:26:07,460 –> 01:26:10,420
Amanda, to everyone at Astrology Hub,
1743
01:26:10,420 –> 01:26:13,060
and to all of us on this planet.
1744
01:26:13,060 –> 01:26:13,620
Right now,
1745
01:26:13,780 –> 01:26:16,180
we need all the cosmic blessings that we can,
1746
01:26:16,930 –> 01:26:17,610
that we can get.
1747
01:26:17,610 –> 01:26:21,170
We all really need to do what we can to be
1748
01:26:21,170 –> 01:26:24,490
open to the concept of spreading love,
1749
01:26:24,490 –> 01:26:25,170
not hate.
1750
01:26:25,730 –> 01:26:27,490
Absolutely. Absolutely.
1751
01:26:27,650 –> 01:26:28,490
Thank you so much,
1752
01:26:28,490 –> 01:26:29,330
Rick, for being here.
1753
01:26:29,330 –> 01:26:30,930
Thank you for sharing your wisdom with us.
1754
01:26:30,930 –> 01:26:32,290
Thank you for sharing your passion,
1755
01:26:32,290 –> 01:26:33,410
your enthusiasm.
1756
01:26:33,410 –> 01:26:34,850
We love you so much.
1757
01:26:35,490 –> 01:26:37,850
And thanks to all of you for tuning in,
1758
01:26:37,850 –> 01:26:39,250
for being a part of our community,
1759
01:26:39,890 –> 01:26:40,810
and thank you,
1760
01:26:40,810 –> 01:26:41,330
as always,
1761
01:26:41,330 –> 01:26:43,570
for making astrology a part of your life.