Money, AI & Pluto in Aquarius: The Astrology of a Changing Economy | Georgia Stathis
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What if the uncertainty we're feeling isn't a sign that something is wrong – but a sign that we're standing at the threshold of a completely new chapter?
In this special conversation, Georgia Stathis explores the major astrological forces shaping the second half of 2026 and beyond, including Pluto in Aquarius, Saturn in Aries, Uranus in Gemini, Chiron's move into Taurus, and the powerful eclipse cycles still ahead. Rather than focusing on predictions alone, Georgia helps us understand how to work consciously with these transits in our own lives – where courage is being asked of us, where research is required before action, and why some of the biggest answers may still be taking shape beneath the surface.
From financial shifts and emerging technologies to community-building, personal agency, and the importance of “finding a need and filling it,” Georgia offers a practical and hopeful framework for navigating a rapidly changing world while staying grounded in your own chart and choices.
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🎬 IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL HEAR:
00:00 — Pluto in Aquarius: AI, the Economy & Why 2027 May Change Everything
06:17 — Saturn in Aries: The Summer of Big Decisions & New Beginnings
11:29 — Uranus in Gemini: Media, Technology & the Rise of Underground Networks
17:03 — North Node in Aquarius: Community, Collective Power & the Voice of the People
19:38 — The 2026 Eclipses: Georgia's 90-Day Rule for Predicting Turning Points
22:34 — Chiron in Taurus & Jupiter Square: Money, Self-Worth & Your Real Priorities
33:50 — Saturn-Neptune in Aries: What History Reveals About the Future
43:37 — How to Navigate 2026: Research, Courage & Finding Opportunity in Change
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Georgia Stathis specializes in business and natal astrology since 1977 with a strong background in investment and real estate. She holds a B.S. degree from Northwestern University in Evanston, Illinois, and an M.B.A. from Pepperdine University. She is both an investor and a consulting astrologer and is author of Business Astrology 101: Weaving the Web Between Business and Myth and Pushing through Time: Synodic Cycles and their Developing Phases.
Georgia is a contributor to various professional journals, writes her own weekly column at www.starcycles.com and teaches many classes internationally. She is one of the founders (with Urania Trust and Kepler) of the www.alexandriaibase.org, whose mission is to preserve and catalogue and locate astrological literature. A 501 C3 non-profit foundation, they are now in their 12th year while building this platform since 2003.
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“Find a need and fill it.” – Georgia Stathis
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Introduction
Laura: All right, everyone. Welcome back to The Astrology Hub Podcast. My name is Laura. I am the head of operations here at Astrology Hub and your host of today's show. Today we are back with another Midyear Prep Series episode featuring Georgia Stathis. Georgia, welcome back to the podcast.
Georgia: Hi, everybody. So great, yeah.
Laura: So great to have you here with us. So we're going to be talking to Georgia today about the astrology of midyear through the end of the year and into 2027 as a part of our Midyear Prep Series, because Georgia will also be joining us for our free special edition solstice panel happening on June 24th. And so we're really excited to be sitting down with Georgia, Ricky Williams, and Adam Gainsburg, and of course hosted by Amanda. But we wanted to go even deeper, so we invited Georgia for a full-on episode where she can give her thoughts.
So, Georgia, it's so great to be with you, and I'm just excited to dive in because I realize we didn't get your official take on 2026 at our beginning of the year panel, so I'm just excited to hear what you have to say.
Georgia: Okay. Well, you know, like many of us, we don't really know what's going on, right?
Laura: That's right. That's right.
Georgia: But there are some signposts in the road—I think that's the best way to mention it. And one of the things I did want to mention is there is a branch of astrology called Horary (H-O-R-A-R-Y), which is the branch of astrology where you ask a question with specific rules, and you get answers, and it's quite accurate if it's done correctly.
And one of the principal rules of Horary astrology is when a planet—especially the slow ones, like right now we've got Saturn, we've got Neptune, we've got Pluto, and Uranus even—when a planet is at the very, very end of its cycle in a sign, like the 28th or 29th degree, or (and this is where this applies to now, I think) when planets are up to three degrees in their new signs. What that means is if it's at the end of the sign, it's too late to tell, and at the beginning of the sign, it is too early to tell.
Pluto in Aquarius 2026: The Economy, AI & What's Coming in 2027
Georgia: So I'm bringing that up—I've been wondering how to start this—because I think this is extremely important. I want to start with Pluto, which is the slowest planet that we… I mean, there's all kinds of… I don't exclude the asteroids, but let's just play with Pluto, which is still a planet as far as I'm concerned.
Pluto stationed—it did move past three degrees, but it stationed very recently on May 6th, I think it was, at five degrees Aquarius. And it's going to go back to three degrees of Aquarius on October 15th, when it goes direct at three Aquarius, four minutes. It won't catch up to where it left off until sometime in the spring, and of course, those notes are here: February 11th of '26.
So there's a few things here. When I did a research report years and years ago, I was looking at what happens when Pluto is in an air sign within the first three degrees. I actually went back to the Medicis, I went back to Renaissance times, and I found that because the economies are changing so rapidly—because Pluto is the ruler of the natural eighth house, which is frozen assets, income, death, rebirth, et cetera, because Pluto rules wealth, basically—the economies in each of these eras were changing so quickly that they were changing the currencies very quickly during these eras, never coming to any sort of solid kind of currency because the economies were changing so rapidly.
We see that now, until Pluto goes past three degrees of an air sign. So even though Pluto's gone to five, it's going to go back to three. And so we may really have to wait until after the first of the year, 2027—right now we're in mid-2026—to see the ramifications of that.
Because one of the things that's happening—I'll talk a little bit about the macro, and then I'll talk more personally, if you will. The macro right now is that the stock market is very much over 50,000 as of the other day, which is outrageous considering what's happening on other levels of the economy. And many people are speculating—and this may not be true, I'm just looking at this—is because this whole thing around Artificial Intelligence, which I do think is a major change in our industries. It will require a lot of training, and a lot of admin positions will probably go. But much like in 2000 when the dot-com bust happened, there are too many of the AI companies coming in that may not make it.
And so that is one of the things that actually Russ Sorkin is talking about right now, is that it could be escalated because of this so that, you know, people are wondering, well, it seems like there's two realities going on here. And I think that's very true. There are two realities going on for everyone, not just in the United States, but all over the world.
And so not until Pluto reaches three and goes direct will choices start to be made. Because I believe that Pluto—and again, in your own personal charts, look to see where you have the sign of Scorpio, even if you don't have any planets in Scorpio. Look at the house that Scorpio is in because that's my rulership thing, right? When Pluto goes direct… it goes retrograde every year, and it does it every single year for six months. That house gets activated or slowed down.
And if you have any planets in Scorpio or any of the fixed signs like Taurus (which is the opposite sign), or Aquarius, or Leo, especially in the early, early, early degrees, like zero to three to five, there's a lot of major decisions you're trying to make right now which you may be finding virtually impossible to make until we get Pluto direct in October and until Pluto catches up with itself on February 11th of 2027. Because it's the beginning stages; it's the seed state of a sign.
Saturn in Aries 2026: A Summer of Big Decisions
Georgia: Now, the other piece is Saturn is now in Aries. You know, Saturn spends two and a half years in each sign. Saturn this year, around the… I've got it down here, Saturn on the 26th of July will retrograde at 14 degrees Aries 44 minutes, which is really the middle degrees of the sign, and then it's going to go retrograde. It's going to go retrograde all the way back to seven, and then go direct on December 10th, 2026. It'll catch up sometime in the spring of next year.
Now, Saturn's important, especially if you look at this… let's just look at the US, even though everybody uses a different chart in the US. Saturn in the US declaration chart is 14 Libra, whatever chart you care to use. Libra, Libra, same. And Saturn coming up opposite Saturn, in a human being's chart let alone a country or an organization's chart… Oppositions are when the rubber band is stretched as far as it can go. I mean, you can't get past 180 degrees; that is an opposition. You might want to get the aspects class that I taught last spring for Astrology Hub to get a real deep dive into aspects.
But oppositions are important because they are a decision-making time. Because if you keep going in the same way you've been going… and I will tell you, if you have planets in middle degrees of cardinal signs like Aries, Capricorn, Cancer, Libra, there's some sort of decision-making time coming up during the summer months, not only for the US or the world, but also for you as an individual.
And what I do like about the fact that Saturn is in Aries, even though a lot of people don't like it, is Saturn in Aries is disposited by the planet that rules Aries. Disposited means what rules the sign it's in. Mars—look at Mars in your chart right now. Whatever chart you have, look at Mars in your natal chart because Saturn in Aries disposited by Mars tells me that you're having a deep-dive look into how you work with your Mars in your horoscope, especially if it's being hard-aspected by any of the transiting planets.
Mars is about taking action. Mars is about manufacturing. Mars is about motivation—what motivates you. And it doesn't matter what sign your Mars is in, because there's a lot of bad press about Mars in Cancer in its fall, or Mars in Pisces is a wimp. You know, you've heard this, right? But Mars is not necessarily a wimp. It only gets motivated by the sign in which it finds itself, and the sign and the house in which it lives.
So what is happening with your Mars, your motivation? It may be very likely with Saturn in Aries right now you're stuck, because Saturn's just getting into Aries. It's a brand new world.
And I actually went back in time—I actually did a little research, if I may, interrupt me at any time—but I went back to look at the last time… we're not even talking about Saturn-Neptune yet, we're just talking about Saturn in Aries. The last time Saturn was in Aries was between 1996 and about 1999, about 30 years ago. I find it always interesting to see how history really does repeat itself, but it repeats itself in different forms, if you will.
So it was the rise of the digital marketplace during that time. It was when Google began its search engines—this was right about the same time. And it was when we began to shift to what we call tech services. And what I find absolutely ironic about the period of '96 to '99 is a lot of these big broadcasting companies began to merge. And now we're starting to see Saturn coming up opposite this position. We're starting to see broadcast companies changing and a lot of independent broadcasts coming up like this. This is an independent streaming service.
And I do feel that the end of regular broadcasting is ending, and I think that we're seeing, as we move forward—especially Uranus moving into Gemini and getting past its first three degrees by the end of the year—that we're going to see a lot more of what I call underground networks. You know? Underground networks.
And that actually goes along with history because if you go back to the Civil War, right around the time Uranus was in Gemini… If you go to World War II, Uranus in Gemini. Every time you see this, you see a suppression of media, and then you see a rebellion of media, because Uranus is rebellion, or Uranus is about waking up to doing things in a very different way. It doesn't have to be rebellion.
When Uranus reentered Gemini recently in the last few months, it was conjoined to Venus. And I looked at that. I looked at an Aries rising chart because, you know, it was what we call a flat chart, and it was happening in the third house. And because Uranus is going back and forth—I mean, Uranus isn't gonna go direct until it goes retrograde at five Gemini on September 10th, and in the spring of next year, it's gonna go back.
Uranus in Gemini: Youth, Media & the Rise of Underground Networks
Georgia: So what I found is Gemini is youth. Gemini is ruled by Mercury, which is the only god in mythology who goes in and out of hell unscathed, which is what a journalist does, right? Or they used to. So Uranus conjunct Venus in the flat Aries chart in the 3rd house suggests to me a lot of new, like in World War II when we had the French underground, like in the Civil War when we had the underground railroad, that the underground…
And I've mentioned this in a newsletter I did for our Star Cycles. I put out a newsletter every few months, I put one out, that this is the beginning of the underground networks, you know, where we're gonna find a need and fill it, right? Something's not working or not happening, or you can't afford it. The technology has gotten to such a point that anybody can get a microphone and a phone, which is good and it's bad because there are no filters. But then again, it's also the 3rd house in that chart, which is also young people, and this is what I've been saying all along. Mercury rules Gemini, which is the young people.
Young people are beginning to have a voice, and we've already seen it with the young generation now speaking out more. Before, they were not necessarily thinking about voting. A lot of them are thinking about voting right now, and they have the tools in which to do it. So that's, to me, very positive.
I also see more documentary work because people don't read as much anymore. Although, I have to say this, especially in St. Petersburg, Florida, we have noticed in the last six months since Uranus reentered Gemini, all these bookstores are opening up here. You know, they closed bookstores for years and years, and you were ordering… Now they're starting these new bookstores, little private bookstores that also have coffee or a wine bar, a place to read books. A lot of writing clubs are coming up in all these bookstores. Writing presentations, storytelling. That's Uranus-Venus in the 3rd house.
So to me, that's exciting, is that everybody who wants to have a voice but doesn't want to go through the big guys, or thinks they can't go through the big guys or the big gals, can now have a voice. But you need to have a team, and that's part of Uranus in Gemini too, is working in a team. Not all of us, you know… Saturn in Aries ruled by Mars, we can't do everything. Any cardinal sign is about learning how to delegate rather than doing everything. Unfortunately, cardinal signs often think they can do everything, but they can't. They need to learn to delegate, you know, and get a team that knows what they're doing. And then you have the mutable people, who are the ones that can put the pieces together, the ones that weave the threads.
I've been doing that with my own archive of 50 years now. I've been digitizing the audios, putting photos in there. I have a couple of new books I'm working on—I don't know if I'll publish them the normal way like I did in the past. But so that to me is exciting. I see ideas coming out of the fact that there's a lot of need right now.
When, you know, Saturn in Aries is about not spending as much money because… is it because you don't want to or because you don't have it? Mars is about spending. And so find the need and fill it is what I'm suggesting to people, and that's what these retrogrades during the summer months are about. Now, I want to talk about the eclipses, but maybe, Laura, you want to ask me a question because I'm rattling off here?
Laura: Yeah, yes, I have some questions. Sorry. No, that's okay, this is so great. So as you were speaking, I was gonna go back to Pluto for a second. You talked about how in Horary you need to get to five degrees or more to have—
Georgia: Three degrees. Three degrees. You just need to get to three, but it's gone past five, and it's gonna go back to three.
Laura: Okay.
Georgia: So I would say wait till it goes direct at three in February of '27, and then we're gonna have a better, a better reading.
Laura: Better. Okay, great. And so, because I was thinking about this as it related to what you said in your Inner Circle Mastery class last time you did about the nodes shifting signs, which I know is coming up later this year.
Georgia: Yes.
Laura: And I want to let you talk about it, but I'm just wondering, like, as it relates to the stock market, if these two kind of might coincide together? Because I know for anyone who doesn't know what I'm talking about with the Mastery class, Georgia, you said that the nodes switching into Leo and Aquarius is when we kind of get to our lowest point.
Georgia: Yes.
Laura: And so for me to hear that we'll know more when Pluto goes direct and hits three and more degrees of Aquarius, um, that to me seems like divine timing. Like, that's all happening together.
Georgia: It is, yeah. It is. And actually, I was gonna talk about the eclipses and the nodes next.
Laura: Okay, so we're in sync, you and I.
North Node Aquarius & South Node Leo 2026: The People Rise Up
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Georgia: So, you know, for those who don't know, the lunar nodes—because every planet has nodes—the lunar nodes return to the same position every 18.6 years. McWhorter did a lot of work on this back in the '30s during the Uranus in Taurus era, and one of the things she found, and we have found in our research in finance, is when the North Node is traveling through Aquarius—and it enters Aquarius on July 26th of 2026, and it stays about a year and a half—the South Node will also be opposite in Leo from July 26th for about a year and a half.
So every time the North Node… because it's the lunar node, the Moon. The Moon is the people. The Moon is the public, if you will. That's why we can see a lot of not only just the financial cycles, but it used to be pig iron cycles, railroad cycles, all kinds of real estate cycles, interest rate cycles. Whenever the North Node goes into Aquarius, the buying stops. People stop buying; it's a slow buying cycle. And in classical astrology, Saturn rules Aquarius; in modern, Uranus rules Aquarius.
So the North Node going into Aquarius… we've had a little bit of a prelude of this even though it's not there yet, because on February 17th of 2026, we had an almost—not quite, but almost—29 Aquarius solar eclipse. And it is ruled by Uranus. Uranus is group mind, not individual mind. Leo is individual mind. South Node in Leo for the next year and a half is letting go of “I'm gonna do my thing,” and instead, let's work with a group. North Node in Aquarius is “Let's work with a group.”
And so if you go back historically… I mean, Tiananmen Square happened. For those of you who don't know that, but there was a time about 18.6 or 36 years ago that a little man, a little man who was a member of the Chinese population, stood in front of tanks in Tiananmen Square to rebel against the People's Republic. We saw Kent State. For those of you who don't know what that is, the North Node was in Aquarius when Kent State happened. Kent State happened when my brother was actually a National Guardsman at Bowling Green, at Kent State Ohio, where National Guardsmen were told to shoot students.
So now, I'm not saying that that's what I'm looking at, but it's the people rising up to have a voice, and that's basically what I'm seeing.
2026 Eclipses Explained: The 90-Day Rule
Georgia: So the shift is already happening because the way you work with these eclipses… if that one was at 28, 29 Aquarius, I always look at three months later because that's 90 days. That's an opening square where you actually start to see what the hell is going on in your life.
So the first thing for you as individuals: where was 29 degrees Aquarius in your chart on February 17th? And what was happening on May 20th and 21st of 2026, 90 days after that eclipse? Because that's when you have the “aha, oh my God, this is what's happening.” And we did see some news on May 20th and May 21st where we talked about the slush fund that they want to do for 1.8 billion, where there was a lot of new information about insider stock trading.
The next eclipse will be August 12th, 2026, a solar eclipse. I believe it is a total one—I'm not sure, but I think it is. I think it is. At 20 Leo on the South Node, which would suggest that… what the word I'm looking for is… hidden things begin to be seen between August 12th, through September, October, early November, which is interesting. That's during the election period. Hidden things are being revealed and seen, because that's the South Node.
Now, in the middle—I know a lot of the people on the panel are gonna talk about this, and I don't wanna spend a lot of time on it—but you know, we work in degree distances, if you will. So 90 degrees is a square. You have to… something has to go. A change has to happen; you have to make an adjustment.
45 days after that, which would be around middle to late July of 2026, is 135 degrees, what we call a sesquiquadrate, which is what I call the hitch in the get-along. Or, it's the gibbous phase, basically. You're standing up on a soapbox telling people what you really wanna have happen to the world.
And so it's interesting because middle to late July, Jupiter is gonna leave Cancer. It's gonna go into Leo. Now, that's great. Jupiter in Leo is ruled by the sun. The South Node is gonna be moving through Leo. So, the negative side of Jupiter is overindulgence, overextension, overzealousness, overexpansion, and that is a piece of what we're gonna briefly start to see between mid-June and August. Because the sky does not work one at a time. It's like taking all those acrobats that balance all the Chinese plates, which I think is fascinating.
Chiron in Taurus & Jupiter Square: Wants vs. Needs in Your Finances
Georgia: Because around June 19th—briefly, it's only about a month, month and a half—we're gonna have Chiron, which is not a planet, Chiron is going to enter Taurus. Taurus is about money and finances. Chiron and Jupiter are gonna be squaring each other. That's where we're gonna start to see, “oh my God, this is expensive” in your own life as well as… And this is why I always tell people, because we did that financial thing a few years ago, didn't we? And we gave people that spreadsheet if they wanted it to do a budget. I know it sounds like a lot of work, but it's really important, especially as we go into the end of the year, to tighten up—you know, batten down the hatches as far as the money goes.
Because Chiron in Taurus… Chiron in Taurus is only gonna be there a couple of months, and then it's gonna go back to Aries, and then it's gonna go back to Taurus. So we're in and out for like a year and a half to two years. So Chiron in Taurus is a very… You know, what is Chiron? Let's talk about that. Chiron is not a planet; it is a comet. It's been here since the late '70s. It orbits between Saturn, which is traditional thinking, and Uranus, which is non-traditional thinking, and it's kind of a bridge.
And a lot of wonderful people have written great books—Melanie Reinhart, Barbara Hand Clow, Joyce Mason, many people have written. And at the UAC conference in September where I'm speaking, and many others are speaking, a lot of talks will be on Chiron. The way I look at Chiron in business is that it's a bridge between the old way of thinking and the new way of thinking. There will be losses, and out of those losses will come gains.
But the Jupiter-Chiron square through the summer is about really watching the pennies and really looking at the market. I think the market… in fact, I may write to my financial guy because he always wants to listen, and tell him, “Watch June 19th through when Chiron goes retrograde,” which it will do on September 17th back to Aries… uh, sorry, back to… yeah, back to Aries on September 17th. So there's that in the summer, which is like that little hitch in the get-along, so I'm not really sure how that's gonna play out. Um, it also has to do with farming and land. Taurus is ruled by Venus, you know.
It is important, I think, especially with the Jupiter square Chiron, to really make a list: what are your wants versus what are your real needs right now? I think, I feel, a lot of online buying is going to be stopping. It's not gonna be as massive as it's been because people are gonna start to really think about that.
Laura: Yeah, it's amazing how these transits, like you said, all the spinning plates together and how they work together. Because if the Leo-Aquarius axis is about kind of moving away from the more self-indulgent, the more extravagant, the solo pleasures to the group, nothing quite makes you motivated to do something like that or make a change than being faced with, “Wow, this is really expensive,” or “Wow, I can't sustain this Taurus anymore.” So that's just… I've not heard anyone talk about Chiron square Jupiter yet, so that's great.
Georgia: Oh, really? Oh, that's interesting. I'm surprised. But then I'm a neurotic, you know?
Laura: Yeah.
Georgia: So, yeah. I mean, I think… and you know, if we look at next year, and I actually did look at next year—I don't wanna spend too much time on next year—but I did look at next year, and I noticed, let's see. Chiron is gonna be squaring Pluto next year. I think it's sometime in the summer or fall of 2027, and that'll be sticking for a while. And that's also when the North Node is gonna start to move further and further back to the early degrees of Aquarius. Because sometime next year, Pluto will be on the North Node, and Chiron will be squaring the North Node, which is again an indicator that markets will change, which takes us to the next thing about Uranus in Gemini, I'm sure.
Laura: Mm-hmm.
Georgia: Because Pluto in Aquarius is ruled by Uranus. North Node in Aquarius is ruled by Uranus, right?
Laura: Mm-hmm.
Georgia: So, um, that's one of the things I wanted to talk about with Uranus in Gemini, is that, you know, Uranus has always been the sign of extremes. There's really a big middle, but it really is a sign of extremes. So we will see extreme attitudes, extremes, extremes before we start to get a little bit of control. But it's also big… like Catherine de Jersey was a great astrologer who I learned eclipses from, and she used to say Uranus is the sign of the big dealers, not the little dealers. I always loved that.
And so, “think bigger” is Uranus in Gemini. But Uranus can be very small also; it can be very small or very big. So one of the things that's happening, you know, solar energy—everybody wants solar on their house, they can't afford it. So find the need and fill it. So what they're starting to do now is they're reducing the solar panels. They're reducing them in such a way, because the chips are getting smaller and smaller, that a person could actually have a little pad and put it on their balcony and have solar instead of installing all that stuff on the roof.
So we're gonna see with the new microchips with Uranus in Gemini a lot of these things that we can't afford now, like calculators—which you wouldn't remember, but they used to be like $400 and $500 when they first came out. The ones that you get for calculus? I remember, like the TI-89 or whatever they're called. I remember in high school they were—
Laura: Nightmare price. Yeah.
Georgia: Now they're on key chains or they're already in your phone, right? So any new technology is always very expensive. But I feel over the next seven years with Uranus in Gemini, especially as Uranus and Pluto start to work better together with Saturn, we're gonna see smaller versions of things that are very inexpensive.
And I've seen it even in, again, in St. Petersburg. You know, this is a lovely town. It's got a lot of art deco, it's got a lot of new things, a lot of museums, a lot of art, but gas is expensive. And now what I'm seeing every place I look: bicycles, that's Gemini; scooters, that's Gemini; tricycles for older people like myself, that's Gemini, right? Motorcycles, that's Gemini. Why? Because the gas is too expensive. Or electric-powered bicycles, right? They were what, 5,000 or 4,000 when they came out about three or four years ago. Now you can get a pretty decent one for less than 1,000.
Laura: Yeah.
Georgia: Yeah, and it'll get cheaper as you go along for transport.
Laura: Yeah, it's almost like people are finding solutions to issues that once seemed fixed, right? Like, “What am I gonna do about gas? I can't do anything about gas. Oh, wait, I can. I can get a scooter or I can…” You know, so that's so Uranus into Gemini versus Uranus into Taurus. It's like amazing how that works.
Georgia: Yeah, and that's what it is. It's out-of-the-box thinking. Uranus is out-of-the-box thinking, and with Chiron in Taurus kind of the middle between those two, I think that there's a market in there for anything that's ruled by Taurus to reduce it down, to make it more affordable. Just a thought.
Laura: Yeah. So Georgia, let's go back to something you said earlier about Uranus, because I'm curious to get your take on the Uranus-Pluto relationship. Because when you said “underground” for like the underground broadcasting and, you know, groups and things like that, I immediately went to Pluto and the trine between Uranus and Pluto. So I would love to hear your thoughts on… I know this transit's gonna span many years, it's gonna take us into really the next decade from my understanding, but would love to hear your take on this.
Georgia: Well, underground can be physical underground. It can be, you know, where you smuggle people into countries. It could be that, like it was with the railroads or the French when they were… you know. But the underground is also… technically we're seeing that. And of course, now I'm blocking, and I know it so well. Oh my God, it's the… where you can have like 14 channels going at the same time, and you can turn them off or turn them on.
Laura: Oh, like Discord?
Georgia: Discord. Discord, that's it. Thank you.
Laura: Yeah, no problem.
Georgia: Sorry, I got a blank for a minute there because the way I understand Discord, I think that's an underground because from what I understand—and I may be wrong on this, the way it was explained to me—you can have one channel, but you can have 13 or 14 going on at the same time, different interests. You can turn some off, you can turn some on. That's underground. That's like having gophers in your garden—you can't get rid of them, right? You shut one down, there's another one opening up. That's my idea of what an underground is: Discord. And I know a lot of young people are using it now, but I think a lot of different generations, if they could, might be taking on to use that more readily.
Laura: It sounds a lot like what you're talking about too, like Reddit could be something like an underground where—
Georgia: Might be, yeah.
Laura: Like different forums, too. Like different kind of rabbit holes that you can explore and go as deep as you—
Georgia: Rabbit holes that if you shut one down, you still have another rabbit hole, right? So that's the way I look at the underground—that kind of thinking, right? Or community organizations being the ones… North Node in Aquarius. Community organizations spurring a movement that gets bigger, kind of like the morphogenetic field. You know, you get a couple of communities working together to do the same thing, then the third one shows up, and the fourth one, and then you get to a number where it's exponentially everywhere. And that's kind of like community revolution, if you will.
And that's what I see happening with the North Node in Aquarius with Pluto trine Uranus—the ideas, right? And I do think part of it is also incorporating the ages, not only just young people or older people or middle, but seeing more of a cross-section of ages so that everybody can share their information. And I do feel that's gonna come. I don't think that's gonna come right away. I think Uranus has to get to the Libra section, which is from 10 to 20 degrees of Gemini, because Libra is more inclusive. Gemini may not be.
Laura: Hmm. Okay. And are you saying that because of… the decanates?
Georgia: The decanates. I'm looking at the decanates.
Laura: Oh, okay. Go ahead.
Georgia: The first 10 degrees of Gemini is Gemini, the second 10 degrees are Libra, and the last 10 degrees are Aquarius. So, 20 to 30 of… you know, that's coming up at the end of the seven years, the last couple of years. Amazing. You know, and it's interesting because the last few months before Uranus entered Gemini, it was in Taurus for the last year or so—that's the Capricorn section. I think that's right. Yeah, it's the Capricorn section, so government. Lots of problems with government.
Saturn-Neptune in Aries: What History (1952 & 1989) Reveals
Georgia: You know, I did wanna also mention Saturn-Neptune, which happened February 20th of 2026, because that's gonna stay with us now for 35 years. And I went back in time and looked at the last two—always fascinating when I look at that.
In 1952, most of you listening to this probably weren't even here, but 1952 was beginning to be the beginning of the Cold War. And there was a senator whose name was McCarthy who was saying everybody was a communist. Everybody got blacklisted for 10 years; it was a pretty bad time. It was a very paranoid kind of time. There was a lot of illusion about what was going on, a lot of that.
Saturn-Neptune came along in 1989 at about 11 or 12 degrees of Capricorn, and the Berlin Wall fell. The Exxon Valdez was a big oil leak. Now we have issues with oil again with Saturn-Neptune. Are we gonna get oil? Saturn… maybe, maybe not, which is also when you start to look at alternatives, right?
So anyway, if it started in Libra in '52, and then it went to Capricorn in 1989, and now it's in Aries opposite 1952, there's kind of a “come to Jesus” moment about what's real versus what's not real. And until Saturn and Neptune came together on February 20th, there's been a lot of stuff around fake news, what… and it's true. I mean, you don't know sometimes with AI whether it's true or not or whatever.
But now that Saturn is beginning to separate from the conjunction and move into the first phase, the second phase, we're beginning to see more of an ability to assess what's true and what's not true. And it's gonna probably take Saturn to get to 15 degrees—which will happen sometime in the spring of next year—to really begin to differentiate what's true and what's not true, and people starting to see things more clearly than they did in the whole time that Saturn was coming up to conjunct Neptune. When you're separating away from it, you get an, “Oh. Oh, okay,” you know?
And wherever that was happening in your horoscope, wherever Saturn-Neptune conjoined in your horoscope at zero Aries—the cardinal sign—look at what Saturn rules in your chart (Capricorn) and what Neptune rules, which was in that house, and see how you're getting a different perspective on what you had maybe even five years ago in that house. If you wanted to create a… because I find Saturn-Neptune is also an extremely creative, artistic time. Lots of new music comes out—I cover that in my book Pushing Through Time about these different conjunctions. And I found music, reality around addiction, reality around mental illness, because Neptune is the god of ecstasy as well as madness. Saturn conjunct Neptune brings the reality that we have a lot of people that need care. And Saturn separating from Neptune more and more, perhaps maybe now we'll get more care facilities for these people and more laws to help these people. So that's my hope. I don't know if it's true, but I'm thinking the more Saturn gets away from Neptune, we'll see that.
Laura: Yeah, and the thing that I like too is that in Aries it feels like there's gonna be some agency around what we see, or at least we'll have the agency to do something. That to me… I've been holding onto that word because—
Georgia: It's a good word.
Laura: —it's been suffering for Aries. That's a good word. So we're coming out of this beginning part of the year that was very much, I feel personally anyway, characterized by this fog, this Neptune-Saturn fog where—
Georgia: Yeah, it's definitely a fog, yes.
Laura: Yeah, we had Uranus move into Gemini, really accelerating things, and now we're arriving at the summer where we're at what you called the decision-making months throughout the summer.
Georgia: It's a pivot. This summer is a pivot time, especially middle to late July.
Laura: Yeah, and you said that because of Saturn in Aries opposite the Libra rising a bit?
Georgia: That, and Jupiter going into Leo coming up to the… well, it's not on the South Node, but it's the same sign as the South Node. And then everybody probably that you're gonna interview is gonna talk about this cradle aspect. Have you heard that one?
Laura: Yeah, yes, yes. Everybody's talking about it, right?
Georgia: Yeah, okay. I mean, it only lasts a few days, right? But for me, it's more the Chiron going into Taurus. Kind of a preview at the movies between June and August, because Chiron will stay in Taurus for about seven or eight years. And, you know, the last time it was in Taurus was right after… it was during the Jimmy Carter… I think it was right when Jimmy Carter came in, then we had the recession after that.
But you know, one of the things that did happen when Chiron was in Taurus in 1933, which is interesting, is that that's when Roosevelt came into office. There had been a depression in the '20s, and he started all the social programs when Chiron went into Taurus. Wow, he started… my God, I have a huge list of all the things he started. It happened within a very short period of time because he was inaugurated in March of 1933. They called a bank holiday that month where they had to close the banks because there were too many loans out, and there was not enough in the bank to insure them.
But then he decided to do a very radical thing. Chiron-Pluto coming up next year could be radical changes of starting these social programs to put Americans back on their feet.
Laura: Hmm, that's hopeful.
Georgia: Yeah, well, Chiron in Taurus is ruled by Venus. You know, how can we make people more comfortable if they're uncomfortable? Right? So that is hopeful.
Laura: Mm-hmm, that is hopeful. Yeah, so it sounds like this summer there's gonna be decisions. It sounds like from a financial perspective things might get a little bit more challenging before we see the solutions that need to be made. So are there any other hotspots or transits or periods of time in 2026, like maybe from July onwards, that you wanted to speak on?
Georgia: Well, we have the eclipse August 12th. We also have another eclipse on August 28th. That's a full moon eclipse, a lunar eclipse, which is when the Earth is between the sun and the moon, which is more a people's eclipse. Solar eclipses are leaders of countries' eclipses; lunar eclipses are people's eclipses.
Laura: Oh, because it's the moon, not the sun. Is that what you're saying?
Georgia: Right, exactly. And the one on August 28th is almost four or five degrees… what is it? I've got it written down here. I should know it by heart… yeah, four, almost five degrees of Pisces and Virgo. So that is being squared by Uranus all through the fall. Uranus square the people's eclipse. So I do think we're gonna see a big turnover in November, because that's 90 days after these two eclipses. All right, there's the people's eclipse. And then what'll happen is we'll have one more leftover what I call the Chernobyl eclipse, late February—February 20th, 21st of next year at two degrees Virgo and Pisces.
And so that's gonna kinda settle a lot, and Jupiter will be going over that position in the summer of next year. So I think things are going to get a little better, but there's gonna be, with Uranus so incredibly active this fall with these eclipses and Jupiter on the South Node, I think we're gonna see more and more people speaking up for change, and I think less fear. Because I do think—and I'm speaking at UAC on the anatomy of fear—you know, what makes people fearful? And part of it is you have to have a little courage, you know? And Saturn in Aries is ruled by Mars. It's time to shore up your courage. In whatever part of your chart Mars falls, in whatever part of your chart Aries falls, it's time to shore up your courage. And it doesn't happen overnight; it's baby steps, for sure.
Laura: Yeah, what's that quote? It's like, “Courage is not the absence of fear, but the triumph over it.” That's what you just reminded me of.
Georgia: Yeah, I think that… isn't that a Kennedy? Didn't Kennedy say—or was it FDR? I forget, one of them said it. FDR said, you know, “The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.” Right, because it's a construct, you know?
And you think about Saturn is the last planet we can see with our eyes. So wherever Saturn is in your horoscope, in whatever house it rules, it may be in the first half of life where you're fearful or you have trepidation. But that's also your incredible ability to be successful as well, if you are willing to take the crucial steps to change that, you know? And I do think Saturn in Aries is about standing up for what you think is right. As long as you… you know, you might think something is right and you don't have the facts, then that's a losing battle. But to know very clearly what is right because you know the facts… I think that's what we're gonna see with Saturn in Aries in the next couple of years.
Laura: Mm-hmm. What would you say to people who might be standing in the in-between, right? Like, they've become aware of something in their life, they wanna make the change, but they might be fearful to step into it or not know what steps to take, and they're kind of at that decision-making moment. Like, what would you say to that person?
How to Move Forward in 2026: Research, Courage & Asking for the Deal
Georgia: I would say that this summer's the perfect time to do the research. The first thing you don't want to do is judge that you can't have it. That's the voice of judgment speaking, and then you'll just not do anything; you'll do nothing.
But Pluto retrograde, Saturn retrograde… you know, all these planets going retrograde are about researching. And that's Pluto retrograde also—researching if anybody else has this idea, looking it up, reading about it, finding out, taking baby steps about the changes you wanna make. And at the same time—and I keep going back to this, especially with finances—is getting rid of 50 streaming services, getting rid of… you know, go through and check what you're spending your money on. You can't be lazy. I think Americans, a lot of them tend to be lazy when it comes to money, but that's changing, you know?
So I think this next four months, five months, especially when the North Node goes into Aquarius, is the time to start to think, especially with this cradle—you know, all these sextiles. Sextiles are a combination of an opportunity and one's ability. So if you don't have the full ability to do what you wanna do, maybe it's time to take a class. And maybe not even end up doing that exact something, but knowing enough from taking the class to get somebody who can help you. Group—the group mentality, the team, right? Because you can't do it all yourself. There's no way, especially now. No, there's too many revolving doors going on right now.
Laura: Oh, totally. Yeah, you can't do it alone. We were never meant to do this life alone, ever. I mean, now that I have children, it's in my face more and more how many people don't have a village, you know? And you don't need to be a parent to make a village, you know? We can all be villagers together.
And you know, Georgia, just a personal example, I love that you said research, because intuitively I have felt this way, but to hear you confirm it is great because Aries is my third house. Third house themes for me have been incredibly abundant this year so far. One of which, obviously, being on the podcast, but two is a home. Me and my husband have been wanting to buy a home for years now, but we were going to move this summer. And we both were like, “It feels rushed. It feels so rushed.” And so we were like, “Okay, we're not gonna make the decision this summer, but we're really gonna sink into the research and the looking, and putting the boots on the ground. We don't feel the need to rush into buying the house this summer, but we will start the research this summer.”
It's just been so up for me, and so to hear that confirmed is really great.
Georgia: Yeah, I think the research is important to make a change, you know? I mean, I think… and that's part of Saturn in Aries, you know, it's like a Saturn-Mars energy.
Laura: Okay.
Georgia: Which is about: let's think before we act. Yes, Saturn-Mars. Especially buying a house, especially buying a big investment, exactly, you know? Does the house have potential? You know, maybe it's not exactly what you wanted, but think forward. Can we change this room down the road? Can we expand on the lot? Can we do this? Can we do that? That's important in the research as well. Talk to contractors to find out, you know, if you're gonna remodel, how much it would cost.
And I think that what we can see is, this is the time if you're trying to invest in things or start businesses to not be afraid to ask for the deal. Or not be afraid to ask for the discount, or not be afraid because everybody—the retailers, the wholesalers—everybody is willing to make a deal now. Reasonable and unreasonable requests.
I just finished writing the new chapter for the new OPA book on the professional astrologer, and that's one of the things I talked about in there: making reasonable requests every week, every day, and then once a week making an unreasonable request. And people can say no, but most of the time they're gonna say yes. But not being afraid—that's Saturn-Aries. Don't be afraid to ask.
Laura: Yeah, I think the world is a lot more flexible than we all once thought, or maybe it once was, you know? The rules are changing and bending, and it's, yeah. So ask. The worst that can be said is no, right? And then you're back where you were in the beginning.
Georgia: Yeah, 50% of the time they're gonna say yes, though.
Laura: Yeah, that's great advice.
Georgia: You know? And it gets to be like a game. That's kind of the way to look at it—as a game, you know? Let's see what I can… It's not about being cheap. It's not about cheating anybody. I'm dealing with a new roof right now, and the roofers, they need business right now. And, you know, if you pay cash or you do this or you do that, they're willing to come to a deal with you. Especially contractors. I think a lot of contractors with Saturn in Aries are finding that there's a lot of work, but they can't do all the work because the costs are high. So, something to think about.
Laura: Yeah. No, that's great advice, and another Aries thing is having the courage to ask, right? I think a lot of us are too afraid that we'll offend someone or, you know, just too afraid to put ourselves out there like that, but embody your Aries agency, right?
Georgia: Right, and also with the South Node going into Leo at the end of July for a year and a half, it's about letting go of the ego. You know, I think that's part of it. The sun rules Leo, you know, the sun is the center of the universe, right? I love Leos, they're the best, right? But they can be a little self-important sometimes, you know? I mean, all the signs have something, right? South Node in Leo is about maybe we should just let go of my perspective as an individual. And, you know, “pride goeth before the fall.” Isn't that an old saying? Pride goeth before the fall. That's definitely South Node in Leo.
And you know, it's very interesting. This summer, The Odyssey is gonna be out with Matt Damon. It's a new film coming out, and I think it's absolutely the perfect time. It's coming out right before these transitions take place, and The Odyssey took place over years and years. It's definitely an Aries energy story about the warrior going out and trying to get back home. Wow. Yeah, so.
Closing Thoughts & Free Solstice Panel Invite
Laura: Yeah. Oh, Georgia, this has been so fun. You're so amazing and always give great advice, so thank you so much for joining us today.
Georgia: Well, I don't know if we did anything today, but it was fun to be with you guys.
Laura: It was super fun for me. I feel like I got a lot out of it. I hope you did too. Please, if you're watching… I did, awesome. If you're watching someplace where you can comment, please let us know how this landed for you as well. And Georgia, I'm so excited that you're joining our panel this year with Ricky Williams and Adam Gainsburg. It's been a few years since we did a special edition solstice panel. We used to do it in the beginning of the year and in the midyear pretty regularly.
Georgia: Yeah.
Laura: But this is such a big year that it warrants two forecast panels, so really looking forward to that. That is free for everyone to join, so if you're listening to this and you can't get enough, you can register for free. When you do that, you also get our free midyear guide that we created, which kind of walks you through a lot of these transits that Georgia was talking about, and even has a handy way to figure out where they are in your chart, because I know that's always a question we get: “I know, but what does this mean for me?” That's what this guide does. So you'll get that when you register.
So, all right, Georgia. Well, thank you. Well, is there any parting words before we close this discussion up? Any parting words?
Georgia: Um, find a need and fill it.
Laura: I love that. Find the need and fill it. Perfect.
Georgia: And do your research to fill it.
Laura: And do the research, yeah. Perfect. All right, everyone. Thank you so much for tuning in to today's episode. Thank you for making astrology a part of your life. We'll catch you next time.