A Cosmic Reset: March’s Bold Call To Action with Rebecca Gordon
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00:00:00 – 00:02:08 | Introduction: Why March 2025 is a Major Turning Point
- 00:02:09 – 00:07:31 | Rebecca’s Story: From Astronomy to Astrology
- 00:07:32 – 00:14:53 | Neptune in Pisces: The Era of Spiritual Awakening & Illusion (2012–2025)
- 00:14:54 – 00:21:00 | Neptune in Aries: A Shift to Self-Directed Spirituality (2025–2039)
- 00:21:01 – 00:27:27 | March 2025 Overview: A Renaissance & Tech Start-Up Vibe
- 00:27:28 – 00:33:46 | March 2025 Eclipses: Release & New Beginnings
- 00:33:47 – 00:41:32 | Venus & Mercury Retrograde: Proceed with Caution
- 00:41:33 – 00:47:19 | The Bigger Picture: The 2025 Planetary Shift
- 00:47:20 – 00:52:07 | What This Means for You: Harnessing the Energy of the Shift
- 00:52:08 – 00:57:02 | Rebalancing Power: Governance, Gender, and the Future
- 00:57:03 – End | Final Thoughts & Words of Wisdom
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Transcript:
00:00:00:23 – 00:00:30:03
Amanda
Back in December. We did a 2025 forecast panel, and I remember so many of the astrologers shining the spotlight on March of 2025. They were pointing to the astrology of March as a true turning point. Why were they saying this? What were they seeing? And most importantly, how can we work with these energies most effectively? That, my friend, is what we're going to be exploring on today's episode.
00:00:30:05 – 00:00:57:18
Amanda
I had the pleasure of sitting down with the brilliant Rebecca Gordon. She does an amazing job blending her background in astrology, psychology, and spirituality to really provide guidance through these times. I loved one of the analogies that Rebecca used. She said March is like the intersection between a Renaissance and a sci fi movie. Very fertile, but also somewhat unpredictable.
00:00:57:24 – 00:01:17:06
Rebecca
It looks like the intersection between a renaissance and a sci fi movie. It's a very fertile for new ideas. The solar eclipse in Aries means that it's going to be a year of stark new beginnings. So March 29th kicks off in areas that new beginning, and it says, okay, this is time to start fresh.
00:01:17:09 – 00:01:34:15
Amanda
You're also going to learn how the powerful solar eclipse in Aries on March 29th signals bold new beginnings. But then how Mercury and Venus retrograde create a bit of a cosmic contradiction. Do we press forward, or do we hit pause?
00:01:34:17 – 00:01:45:24
Rebecca
Larger seeds do not sit on your ideas, as Aries likes to say, just do it. But Mercury's retrograde in Venus is retrograde, so it's also like. But not yet.
00:01:46:02 – 00:02:08:05
Amanda
In this episode, we're going to break it all down for you and also give you many tools for how to work with these energies most effectively. This is an episode you're not going to want to miss. So sit back, relax, and enjoy this episode with the brilliant Rebecca Gordon.
00:02:08:07 – 00:02:17:06
Amanda
Rebecca, welcome to the Astrology Have podcast. This has been a long time coming. I'm so grateful that you're here. Thanks for being on our show.
00:02:17:08 – 00:02:24:08
Rebecca
Thank you. Amanda, it's an honor to be here. I think it was a few years ago. Right when we met at the conference.
00:02:24:10 – 00:02:51:02
Amanda
Yes, but I have been following your astrology for a while, so I was really grateful to to meet you and have that connection. And then I don't know why it's taken us so long to do this show, but we're here, and I'm so excited. I don't even know your story. And we always, whenever there's a new guest on the Astrology podcast, I love to get your backstory, how you came to astrology, and also a little bit about the type of astrology that you enjoy practicing the most.
00:02:51:04 – 00:03:13:14
Rebecca
Sure, that sounds great. I'm happy to share my story. It's been a while since I have actually. So, Okay, I'll nutshell it from the very beginning. I'll start off with my fascination with astronomy. Basically, when I was really young, I thought I was going to be an astronomer. I was obsessed with the planets and stars, probably from the age of like 3 or 4.
00:03:13:16 – 00:03:30:20
Rebecca
And as a kid, I collected astronomy books, like we were going to the library. My fans were like, all right, astronomy time, you know? And I basically had like, I grew up in New York City, had my birthday parties at the Hayden Planetarium. So I was just kind of like an astronomy nerd for a very long time. And I knew all the moons of Jupiter and all that.
00:03:30:20 – 00:03:54:20
Rebecca
By the time I was like 12, I could tell you about Andromeda and everything out there. So I had a background in that. Beulah and Astronomy and then the conveyor belt and stuff like that. Right. And so I guess around like the age of 14, I started getting into the itching. I would start to recall young around the age of 14, as a kind of a time where you're like, who am I?
00:03:54:20 – 00:04:18:19
Rebecca
Why are we here? Why are humans on this planet, you know, what is this all about? So I started reading a whole lot of spiritual books. And fast forward to age 14. I was babysitting at a neighbor's house who happened to be an astrologer, and I saw a straw. Like astrology. What's that? I know astronomy, and I'm like, wait a minute.
00:04:18:21 – 00:04:44:21
Rebecca
Don't tell me this is combining everything I love about the planets of stars. So astronomy with psychology and with spirituality. And this was blowing my mind that it existed. I was like, if this is true, if this is all real, I was already thinking, I have to devote my life to this. This is insane. Wow. Because this was the intersection of everything I adored all in one, and I couldn't even believe that it existed.
00:04:44:23 – 00:04:47:24
Amanda
So, Rebecca, you were 14 when this happened.
00:04:48:01 – 00:04:48:13
Rebecca
Yes.
00:04:48:13 – 00:04:50:05
Amanda
Amazing. Okay. Wow.
00:04:50:07 – 00:05:15:13
Rebecca
So I'm babysitting on her house. It's like 9 or 10 at night. The kids are asleep. I have all her astrology books strewn across her table, and I was just like a mad scientist with every book. She came home, of course, in the middle of my mad scientist session, you know, with everything over her. And she was just calmly saying, oh, you found my astrology books.
00:05:15:15 – 00:05:38:24
Rebecca
Yeah, you do want to talk. And I said, yes, we have to talk about this. Amazing. So that's that was my introduction. Now, a few weeks later, she asked me what I thought of it. In the meantime, I had gone to the library to research it thoroughly and and then, I don't know how it happened, but basically she agreed to mentor me weekly and teach me.
00:05:39:01 – 00:06:04:18
Rebecca
And so I studied with her through high school every Sunday night. And so instead of babysitting all the time, I was babysitting, plus getting astrology lessons weekly. And, that was the beginning. And then, I moved to New York. I flew back to the city I love for a while. We lived in. We grew up in, like, well, in New York, Africa, South America, Europe, a whole lot of places because my father was an anthropologist.
00:06:04:18 – 00:06:23:10
Rebecca
So we lived all over. And then I always felt like I knew the Southern Cross, the southern skies and northern skies, all of that. So I moved back to the city when I was like my early, you know, for college. And then I did charter ultra high school. I did charts all through college. I just couldn't stop. And then I studied with so many mentors.
00:06:23:13 – 00:06:50:08
Rebecca
So it's a miller. Bring it up, Brady I studied evolutionary, I study archetypal, I study traditional. They did all of that in my 20s and early 30s. I guess I and I still study tons of things, you know, so I, I took classes nonstop after I studied with my, my stepmother and then Susan Miller and Bernadette, and then I really learned all of the different schools to a point where I thought, okay, what is my voice in it?
00:06:50:08 – 00:07:11:21
Rebecca
And then my voice started to emerge, and I started to realize I have a very different take on things. So I guess it's sort of a combination of some things. I learned a bit of archetypal from here, and a bit of modern and a bit of traditional, and I guess I opened up I started teaching in 2004 or 2005.
00:07:12:01 – 00:07:31:12
Rebecca
Know, I started teaching because, I was here in the city and I was like, there wasn't really an easy place for people to kind of learn. And that's what I want it. I just want to community. So I just started it, and I've been teaching ever since I've been running the school. And I meet so many wonderful people through the school.
00:07:31:14 – 00:08:00:05
Rebecca
That's kind of what I would have wanted when I was like 14. Also to have like a community of astrologers. So that's that. I just started to build, now I, you know, I kind of build some bridges to bring astrology into the corporate world. I do some keynotes and for companies now like Google and Etsy and things, I'd like just to kind of see if I can bridge astrology into different verticals that I always like that as a challenge to kind of make astrology more interdisciplinary.
00:08:00:07 – 00:08:05:20
Rebecca
I think that's something that I've really, that's been a through line throughout my whole career.
00:08:05:22 – 00:08:13:11
Amanda
Are you seeing more and more openness to astrology as you bring it into other disciplines or other verticals?
00:08:13:13 – 00:08:39:04
Rebecca
Oh, yeah. I mean, it's amazing what we've seen. I think that because the young people are leading the way, most of the younger people love astrology. So I think that they're telling the heads of the companies and all these places, hey, we need we need to bring astrology. And so I really, created some rubrics to bring astrology into teambuilding, exercise and all sorts of things like that.
00:08:39:06 – 00:08:57:03
Rebecca
And I've done tons of that in the last decade. So it's that's been a lot of fun. It's been great to see that openness happen. And for people to have another language that's really non accusatory, breeds compassion and great relationships. So I've seen it build bridges.
00:08:57:05 – 00:09:11:22
Amanda
Oh my gosh Rebecca your story is fascinating. What would you say is your favorite question to get asked by a client as an astrologer? Is there anything that when someone asks you the question, you're like, yes, that's an awesome question.
00:09:11:24 – 00:09:34:07
Rebecca
I like the really big questions. Like people like ask, why am I here? What is this life about? What is my soul purpose? And although I can't answer that in just a sentence, we get into a conversation and they start to reveal themselves in it and understand. I think I aim to ask questions where they can understand themselves through the answers to.
00:09:34:09 – 00:09:48:04
Rebecca
Also, I love looking at the meta cycles into the future. If you ask me about the future, I think I'm very interested in looking at this times in the greater scheme of things and how we can be conscious creators in this time.
00:09:48:06 – 00:10:12:16
Amanda
Yes. Okay. Well, and that brings us to March, because I know that you want to touch on the astrology of March, but then also where we're at in time with March, you know, in the bigger context of many, many cycles. So you made a comment before we started recording about the astrology of March and how it's it's kind of like the official beginning of 2025.
00:10:12:18 – 00:10:16:09
Amanda
Why are you saying that? What are you seeing? And let's let's go through it.
00:10:16:15 – 00:10:41:09
Rebecca
Let's do it. Yes, and let's do it. It's kind of like the motto, because everything's moving into the sign of Aries, right? March is sort of the template of the year, because this begins the whole pageant of planets that move into Aries. The eclipse scenarios happens in March. Neptune moves into areas in March, and two months later, Saturn follows suit and moves into Aries.
00:10:41:11 – 00:11:18:17
Rebecca
So March is sort of a map of the year. And I think it's interesting because, well, let's start off with this. The fact that Neptune, which has been in Pisces for 14 years, moves into areas where it will be until about 2039, and that is a huge shift. Now, I know Pluto and Uranus are kind of like, you know, the the big heavy hitters there, but Neptune works on a very subliminal level that turns out to be extremely loud by the end of the transit.
00:11:18:19 – 00:11:37:24
Amanda
Yes, yes. So, so in order for us to appreciate where we're going with Neptune, I feel like it would be it would be really beneficial to do a little bit of a retrospective on Neptune in Pisces. You know, what are the big things that have shifted? And then if you can, if you can hone in a little bit on the 29th degree of Pisces.
00:11:37:24 – 00:11:44:16
Amanda
So Neptune being at that very final moment of Pisces and what that means, and then we can look ahead to Aries.
00:11:44:16 – 00:12:07:15
Rebecca
I love it. All right. And that 29th degree is so important this year because this year right. There's like five planets that are changing signs that are going to be at that 29th degree showing. This is a year of endings and beginnings. All five planets are changing sign. So Neptune, let's roll the clock back to about 2012 or so.
00:12:07:15 – 00:12:33:13
Rebecca
Was that when Neptune first entered the sign of Pisces? Yes, from 2012 to now. And I think we can all remember the big attention around Quetzalcoatl and the return of Cups Apollo. All of that right in 2012. And it sort of felt like the beginning of this spiritual renaissance in our community. There was for the first time, this is when astrology started to become very popular.
00:12:33:15 – 00:12:59:16
Rebecca
And I think anybody who's listening to this podcast or any astrologer has benefited a lot from Neptune being in Pisces. It made our industry one of the most popular things that so much even venture capital money is going now to astrology apps. So Neptune rules whatever a culture finds sexy at the moment. And for the last 14 years it was spirituality and astrology.
00:12:59:18 – 00:13:27:11
Rebecca
And it's not that that's going to end, but I do think we should look at everything that start to happen with it. Neptune as we know it rules. It's it's transcendence. It's the vastness. It's our connection right? To spirit, to God. And that can happen through prayer, meditation, music, astrology, other forms of esotericism that all became popular.
00:13:27:13 – 00:13:52:15
Rebecca
But also it rules dilution, right? And using AI to make people say things that they're not. So we reached the end of Neptune and Pisces and we see what is even real. Yeah. Who is saying, why did they even say that? So we're like looking at this mass delusion and and and almost impossible to tell sometimes what is real and what is not.
00:13:52:17 – 00:14:04:03
Rebecca
And also, I don't know, Amanda, what, what you're seeing, but I'm seeing at the end of Neptune and Pisces, a lot of really strange ideas all collapse together.
00:14:04:05 – 00:14:34:00
Amanda
Absolutely. The what is real thing is, is everywhere. I mean, I've had I've seen several clips of famous people saying something and it seeming so real that they said it. But then I see another clip of the same event, the same person, and and then you have the broader context of what they were actually saying, or, you know, that it was just spliced together in a way to make them say something outrageous that would make anybody like very emotional.
00:14:34:00 – 00:14:53:02
Amanda
Right? It's just to get that emotional response. So yes, I've seen all of that. And it's fascinating to me that you say 2012 is when astrology kind of kicked in. That is when I had my first astrology reading. And the entire time Neptune has been in Pisces is the entire exploration I've had with astrology. I knew nothing about it before.
00:14:53:04 – 00:15:12:20
Amanda
So it's absolutely I definitely I've been writing that wave. And so you're saying now that Neptune is at the 29th degree of Pisces, we're seeing the Neptune Pisces themes almost amplified, right? Even louder than ever. What's going to happen when that when it moves into Aries? Like, what does that shift going to be like.
00:15:12:22 – 00:15:33:00
Rebecca
When it gets louder? You also see all the flotsam and jetsam come up, though, you know what I mean? At the end of the side, you also see all the junk all the way out. Like, what on earth is that? What is going on now? Things just get kind of bad at the end of a sign like on Pluto got the 29th degree of such, you know, Pluto at the 29th degree of Cop.
00:15:33:01 – 00:15:52:07
Rebecca
That is like the point where all of the junk at the bottom comes up to the surface that we see it. But let's look at like the 1860s, too, because like that when Neptune was in Pisces back then, that's when sciences were happening across the globe. People were loving to have this planet where they could contact the dead people.
00:15:52:11 – 00:16:12:15
Rebecca
The spiritualist church started, and I think in the last 14 years, there's been a lot of similarly spiritual tourism. And I'm using that word just because people have been kind of like, oh, I'll do a little bit of Tropic Breath, I'll do a little that I'll do. And I ask a ceremony here, and I'll do this there.
00:16:12:15 – 00:16:35:16
Rebecca
And they're doing all of these things all over the world to understand more about who they are, which is fine, which is very Neptune in Pisces. It's this vast spiritual exploration, and I would say tourism to a lot of just exploring everything. And so that parallels to the 14 year era of, the spiritualist church and all of that in the 1860s.
00:16:35:16 – 00:17:09:02
Rebecca
But following that, in 1860s came Neptune in Aries. And then as soon as Neptune went into Aries, Madame Blavatsky came on the scene. But the Theosophical Society and the difference between the Theosophical Society with Neptune and areas and the Spiritualist Church and all of the sciences with Neptune in Pisces, is so big because here in Theosophical Society Society, she's creating a rubric that makes the spirit and science and certain ancient traditions and the power of well, it was a very bold thing.
00:17:09:04 – 00:17:36:03
Rebecca
And I think we're actually coming into something similar right now. Amanda, in terms of the intersection of science and spirit and the idea of it, I don't want to say the word a new religion, but I want to say something kind of cohesively coming together that focuses on the sign of Aries, giving each person a whole lot of agency and autonomy, like, it's up to you to make the difference.
00:17:36:03 – 00:18:16:07
Rebecca
It's up to you to vision your world and create. And the thing is, when Neptune's and Pisces US, it's not that spirituality is not popular, nor it actually gets more popular, but it it takes on a whole life of itself and in a much more directed way. So the volume gets turned way up, even more like people that benefited from astrology and had their awakening in the last 14 years of Neptune and Pisces are going to go so much further with Neptune and Aries, but we're mainly going to see the popularization of things like, and mainstream awareness of telepathy.
00:18:16:09 – 00:18:36:21
Rebecca
Intuition. I don't know if you've heard the telepathy tapes recently. I'm also a part of this thing called the Intuition Project, and so keeping a pulse right now on the mainstream awareness of telepathy and intuition, the realizing now that a lot of these kids that had thought to have been autistic are actually telepathic and psychic.
00:18:37:02 – 00:19:04:02
Amanda
Well, I have chills. That's amazing. It seems like in in Neptune in Pisces, there might have been more of a and correct me if I'm wrong, more of a tendency to sort of put our power outside of ourselves to to find the guru, to find the teacher, to find the one who's going to lead us to the answers, the truth, the the solutions, the healing.
00:19:04:04 – 00:19:27:19
Amanda
And what I'm hearing from you is that with Neptune in Aries, it's more about your direct connection to source, your direct connection to your intuition, your direct authority or agency to, like you said, create your reality to you know, to follow the path that feels most true for you. Is that a correct sort of understanding of what you just shared?
00:19:27:24 – 00:19:50:23
Rebecca
I would say so, absolutely. As all of us, you know, we just came from Neptune and Saturn and places where we saw so many gurus get taken down and canceled over those last 14 years because Neptune and Pisces ruled the glamorization of the guru, but also the disillusionment of the girl. We saw it all with Neptune in Pisces, so we are no longer in the age of the guru.
00:19:51:00 – 00:20:15:06
Rebecca
You know, we saw that that can easily. We're all infallible. They can be destroyed. They can be, you know, there's holes in that story. And that all showed up by the end. I think every single yoga guru got taken down somehow, and it was sad to see all of that, too. I mean, I don't know about you. I studied in so many of those schools myself in my 20s and stuff, and it was it was really sad to see that happen because so many good things came out of it too.
00:20:15:06 – 00:20:15:18
Rebecca
But.
00:20:15:20 – 00:20:36:18
Amanda
Right. It's a double edged sword. I mean, it's it's partially taking responsibility for the fact that we put them on the pedestal in the first place because we, they're humans and we and we know that. But then also the sort of capitalization of that. Okay, I've been put on a pedestal. How do I cap you know, you know, like it's it's both it's both things.
00:20:36:18 – 00:21:01:00
Amanda
And I and I hope that as humanity we're seeing that we all played a role in it and that we also can play a role in a very different story, which let's get to that now. So you've talked about agency. You've talked about authority, and we're still just on Neptune's movement in March. But but I just want to to explore a similar shadow aspect of Neptune in areas where are what's the cautionary tale for Neptune and Aries.
00:21:01:00 – 00:21:05:23
Amanda
So we know it beforehand, and we may not be as likely to fall into it.
00:21:06:00 – 00:21:25:08
Rebecca
Yeah, that's it's so important that we bring that up because we see what happened with Neptune in Pisces. And I think it's worship of strength and force. I mean, we're already seeing signs of of Neptune. And there is the worshiping of strength and and brute force. I think we have to be it has an imperialistic undertone, which I don't like.
00:21:25:11 – 00:21:53:17
Rebecca
And I think we have to be so mindful of how we use our willpower. People are going to become very excited about the use of, well, and what they're realizing now in the latest, like scientific experiments, is that, you know, sometimes we don't need to say things or write things, but we can think them and they can get transmitted, you know, so we're learning how people that can't speak or whatever can have a thought that moves through.
00:21:53:19 – 00:22:21:03
Rebecca
So there's a lot of experiments being done on, well right now. And I think Will is a big word when we talk about areas will, power, true will and the use of will. And I think it could get very selfish and individualistic. So my concern is that it becomes overly about each individual. And that's why. Well let's come back to Pluto in Aquarius.
00:22:21:03 – 00:22:42:07
Rebecca
We're all in this together. We all need to be thinking, how can we be the best not just for ourselves, but for the community? How can we all learn to assert our will that is beneficial for Pluto in Aquarius, the greater good? So it's just not all self-serving. And I think that's the big thing to look out for.
00:22:42:09 – 00:22:43:10
Rebecca
What do you think?
00:22:43:12 – 00:23:12:01
Amanda
I mean I think that's brilliant. And I think that each one of us will have choices to make for how we, we want to do that. But, but I think, I think what you're saying about how can I be the best version of me in order to contribute to my community. That, to me feels just like a guiding principle that brings everything you just said about Neptune in Aries, but then also Pluto in Aquarius, and I'm sure other things as well.
00:23:12:07 – 00:23:37:06
Amanda
But it really just is Saturn, I am sure Saturn's position also would would highlight that, but it really is is synthesizing the best of the Aries, Libra and the Leo like like like Leo, Aquarius, you know, bringing the I shine my light so I can contribute to the whole yeah, I just to shine my light, you know, right to to actually contribute.
00:23:37:11 – 00:23:56:19
Rebecca
Absolutely. I mean that is the story of areas in Aquarius, right? When you throw them into a pile and turn up the heat, you are being the best you you could be acting with full agency so that it so that it does that. Aquarius. Yeah. Yes. So we we have to mix them together and turn up the heat.
00:23:56:19 – 00:23:57:03
Rebecca
Yes.
00:23:57:09 – 00:24:10:08
Amanda
It reminds me of, you know, in copywriting there's always that you say the statement but so that you can. So it's it's a similar thing. It's like shine your light so that you can contribute to the whole so that you can back to.
00:24:10:11 – 00:24:18:11
Rebecca
And the last 20 years, it was so that you can build a bigger business. Freaking Pluto in Capricorn. Yes, yes.
00:24:18:13 – 00:24:24:04
Amanda
Oh wow. Yes. Yeah. And then it's almost like we got to the end of that. And it was like, well, so now what?
00:24:24:09 – 00:24:31:13
Rebecca
Yeah, I mean that was a real debt. And we got to the top of the mountain. We're like, was here. It's lonely at the top. What's up with that? This.
00:24:31:16 – 00:24:40:02
Amanda
It's lonely. It's unfulfilling. It doesn't bring any meaning to life. And it and it brings a lot of complexity and a whole host of other issues.
00:24:40:05 – 00:25:16:06
Rebecca
Yeah. I mean, it really lost its luster. Capricorn. At the end of the 29th degree, people were just jumping off. They were like, I was climbing to the top of the tower and then the tower imploded. I'm going to jump off. I don't want to be a part of this sort of story, the system anymore. Right? And that's why so many opted out, you know, recently, I think, but it's interesting to look at the whole journey of Pluto and Capricorn, too, in terms of, the opposite sign to what we forgot about was culture and the emotional body of health cancer.
00:25:16:08 – 00:25:23:07
Rebecca
And so as Pluto is in Aquarius, let's not forget about Leo. Let's not forget about your creativity and that individual's spark.
00:25:23:13 – 00:25:49:09
Amanda
Okay, so let's go into more more of the highlights of March. What else are you seeing and why is this such a a pivotal turning point in the year so early in 2025? Hey there astrology lover! I hope you're enjoying this episode. Now, in honor of Valentine's Day, we're celebrating Love Week here at Astrology Hub from February 10th through the 16th, we're offering discounts on all of our relationship astrology classes.
00:25:49:11 – 00:26:14:20
Amanda
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00:26:14:22 – 00:26:17:05
Amanda
And now back to the episode.
00:26:17:07 – 00:26:42:09
Rebecca
Well, let's talk about, I think while we're on the theme of Aries, the fact that there's solar eclipse scenarios and that is happening March 29th. So this sort of opens up the gates. So we're seeing the solar eclipse and Aries this year. Is it this? To me, the sky of 2025 feels like a tech start up. So I look at a lot of business charts and like business launch charts.
00:26:42:09 – 00:27:04:15
Rebecca
And most of the tech companies have charts that I have like Aries, Gemini and Aquarius. And that's pretty much the sky in 2025. So it's like the world kind of looks like a tech startup in a way, but it also looks like a renaissance. It looks like the intersection between a Renaissance and a sci fi movie. I think it's a really fertile landscape.
00:27:04:15 – 00:27:27:06
Rebecca
It's a very fertile for new ideas. The solar eclipse in Aries means that it's going to be a year of stark new beginnings. So March 29th kicks off in areas that new beginning, and it says, okay, this is time to start fresh. Plant your seeds. Do not sit on your ideas. As Aries likes to say, just do it.
00:27:27:06 – 00:28:06:14
Rebecca
Don't make a list. Just do it. But, but, but, but Mercury's retrograde and Venus is retrograde during that month, so it's also like. But not yet. It's like it's going to set the tone for the year. But the month of March is also full of retrograde, Venus retrograde and Mercury retrograde in areas. And so it's isn't interesting juxtaposition of this need to start now, but we have some checks and balances to work out first, so first Venus is retrograde from March 1st to April 11th, so pretty much the whole month of March.
00:28:06:16 – 00:28:29:21
Rebecca
Venus's retrograde. And even though that eclipse in Aries wants to push you off the cliff, if you want to jump because Venus and Mercury are retrograde, there's there's they're saying, okay, you're not ready quite yet. We still have some homework to do. And yes, we are going to jobs. And yes, this whole year is going to be about the job.
00:28:29:23 – 00:28:52:03
Rebecca
But I think it's a good cautionary tale for Aries too, which is to like, look at the peripheral vision, look what's around you. We can't be too just straight ahead and using our well, we have to kind of see things we might have missed, listened well to other people. We have to lean more into Libra to become more conscientious and aware.
00:28:52:05 – 00:29:02:13
Rebecca
Like, I think that's also just what we have to watch out for, is becoming two areas and just acting without thinking, you know.
00:29:02:18 – 00:29:07:19
Amanda
And acting without considering consequences and how it might impact other people. Right.
00:29:07:23 – 00:29:10:03
Rebecca
Exactly, exactly.
00:29:10:05 – 00:29:21:06
Amanda
So, Rebecca, can you just give us a little, little forensics here for the dates? So we have you said Venus retrograde is March 1st through April 11th. Mercury retrograde is, what.
00:29:21:12 – 00:29:23:15
Rebecca
March 15th to April 6th.
00:29:23:17 – 00:29:28:14
Amanda
And then the the the eclipse, you said was March 29th.
00:29:28:19 – 00:29:54:07
Rebecca
Yeah. So I want to first mention that the Venus retrograde goes from areas to Pisces. And the Mercury retrograde also goes from areas to Pisces. So March is a month where you kind of want to list and make observations. You don't have to be acting so much. And also we're in eclipse season. Yes, about March 14th is the lunar eclipse before the solar.
00:29:54:07 – 00:30:17:06
Rebecca
So the March 14th eclipse is saying, all right, we're here to take out the trash. Look, if there's things that you've been holding on to in your life, whether it's like an old job, an old relationship and old health habit, and if you really think you need that thing to move forward, but perhaps it's not good for you, the March 14th eclipse is going to pull that away.
00:30:17:06 – 00:30:40:17
Rebecca
And I'm saying this is not healthy. This is not necessary for your future evolution. That March 14th is a lunar eclipse in Virgo, like many, many full moons all rolled into one. So we can say it's a culmination. It's an ending where if you're not letting go of that thing on your own, you will get dragged and you will have to let it go.
00:30:40:19 – 00:31:14:04
Rebecca
And this is for your own health and good. I'm speaking just like collectively. Like we will all have to for some water out of the cup to make room for the new beginning two weeks later for the solar eclipse, because you can't just keep pouring water on a full cup. And that's why it's so beautiful. There's such poetry when the lunar is before the solar, because we get to empty out and release around March 14th and clear space before we invited the fresh start.
00:31:14:06 – 00:31:42:04
Amanda
Rebecca, this will always be true of a lunar South Node eclipse, right? Like as the time to clear out and then the North node solar eclipse. The time to welcome in correct is is there is there something about this eclipse, these eclipses that is even more potent and powerful than usual? Or is this kind of the similar eclipse themes that we're always exploring?
00:31:42:06 – 00:31:59:23
Rebecca
Well, there's there's a few reasons why I think it's more potent and powerful. One that sometimes the solar comes before the lunar, which is kind of annoying to me because like, we're have to start the thinking that we have to take out the trash, right? Let's first start with the release. And as you said, it's the South Node eclipse that begins, which is perfect.
00:32:00:00 – 00:32:26:10
Rebecca
So it's this massive release in a sign of Virgo, which loves to take out the trash and clean things anyway. Yet. But Virgos like, let's see what you missed. Let's see what you don't even know. That is, under the surface that's been running in the background of your whole life is that you're ready to just clear out. And so it's good to have a sense of humility around that eclipse, because you don't know what you don't know.
00:32:26:10 – 00:32:50:20
Rebecca
It's that you're not aware the eclipses tend to do that. Right. And because this one is opposing Saturn, I think there's a bit of a a teacher aspect to it that's like strict. It's like, like a spirit of, no, you can't have that in your life anymore. It is not good for you. Any longer is time to end that work habit, that relationship thing, that whatever it is.
00:32:50:22 – 00:33:24:18
Rebecca
And there is a sense of finality because of such Saturn's influence. And so that is, it's key to do that clearing and for all the signs. So it's going to mean something a little different, right, depending where it falls in your chart. But two weeks later and we're kind of like in the vague and there were in the turning points two weeks later, on the 29th of March, the gates opens and it's saying, okay, are you ready?
00:33:24:18 – 00:33:46:23
Rebecca
And hopefully you're a little you're a little scared because you should be. It's scary. And we're all going to be like, yes, it's scary, but we must go. We must live courageously. This eclipse you. We all feel a little scared to step into what this new beginning is, because it's an unknown collective for none of us. No, it's an Aries.
00:33:46:23 – 00:34:13:21
Rebecca
It's a fresh start, and it feels emblematic of the whole year. Like a solar eclipse in Aries. Feels like this year is a solar eclipse. Scenarios. It's a brand new world that we are all stepping into that is so unknown. But yeah, we have to step into it with clarity, with consciousness, an awareness, the people around us. I know you and I were talking about that earlier.
00:34:13:21 – 00:34:19:12
Rebecca
Amanda, about how we're not even, like, planning this section half of the year yet.
00:34:19:14 – 00:34:43:15
Amanda
Yes, yes, I know, and normally we we at least tentatively plan the whole year. And I'm talking when I say we, I mean Astrology Hub, you know, we'll we'll look ahead to the year and make plans this year. It's like we got through the first six months and I said, let's not go any further. I don't feel I can't see it and I don't know what's going to be happening then, but it just feels futile to even try to go there right now.
00:34:43:15 – 00:34:47:11
Amanda
So let's just plan the first six months and then and then we'll see.
00:34:47:13 – 00:35:09:15
Rebecca
I mean, so much is going to change after the first six months. It's like two different years, right? Because the first half of the year, the whole succession of planets. Neptune moves into Aries than Saturn in May. June Jupiter moves into cancer. July Uranus into Gemini. And we're done. We're in a totally different world for Q3 and Q4.
00:35:09:15 – 00:35:18:01
Rebecca
It's like a completely different reality. Yeah, but this is the beginning. This is like, welcome to your life. There's no turning back. You know?
00:35:18:03 – 00:35:35:10
Amanda
Yes. Wow. Okay. Big stuff. All right. So in addition to Neptune, the eclipses, is there anything else in March making it as significant as all of you astrologers have been making it? Anything else contributing to the storyline?
00:35:35:12 – 00:35:57:24
Rebecca
Well, it's always interesting. You know, when a planets are at the 29th degree, we start to see, everything being revealed. So, you know, as little mercury in the sun and all the planets come to visit Neptune at the 29th degree. Every time a little planet comes to say hi to Neptune, we're going to hear something else.
00:35:58:02 – 00:36:16:15
Rebecca
So I think secrets are going to get leaked. I think, you know, it's like, oh, we can say anything now we're at the end of a sign, and then we go into Aries from there on after. But really, I think we're going to start to see in April how all of that come to life, like March 29th is the eclipse.
00:36:16:16 – 00:36:41:16
Rebecca
So the first two weeks of April, it's really the beginning of the new way. You know, we could definitely look back to 2017 because that's I mean, sorry, 2017 is the last time the Venus retrograde ends where it is now. And 2007 is the last time we had these same eclipses. So those are two years that are going to be relevant, like 2007.
00:36:41:18 – 00:37:11:01
Rebecca
The Saros cycle of eclipse repeated. And so if you think back what happened in your life in 2007, a similar thematic is coming in right now, because that was the last time we had these same Saros eclipses occur 18 years ago, and we have an opportunity of a different way to approach it. And also in love. What happened in your life in 2017 with money, with your values, with Venus retrograde, how did you deal with that Venus retrograde?
00:37:11:01 – 00:37:25:18
Rebecca
Because you're being asked to see a very similar set of symbols right now in March. So those are the two years I would offer us to look back to and learn from them. Okay, she's doing the math.
00:37:25:20 – 00:37:55:13
Amanda
Yeah. No no no. Oh my God. Well, 2017 is when that my, fiancé came into my life and I'm like, of course, looking into all the just seeing the patterns is really fascinating. Okay, so we have Neptune eclipses Venus retrograde, Mercury retrograde. Is there anything significant about the Venus retrograde or the Mercury retrograde thematically that we should also be keeping in mind?
00:37:55:15 – 00:38:29:00
Rebecca
I think so, I mean, let's just start with the fact that they're both retrograde in Aries, and Aries is a sign that all these planets are moving in into. And it's interesting that we're seeing in governance right now, this real boys club developing. Right. Yet these planets are all going retrograde in Aries. So I think this is actually speaking to something that's happening with men and with men in governance as well.
00:38:29:02 – 00:38:59:16
Rebecca
In March, that there are some back pedaling that will need to be taken collectively. And we'll see. Mistakes were made. I mean, okay. Yeah, we all know Sam Altman let the toothpaste out the tube, which is too early on. Like we're not ready for AI at the level that it's not. We can't really backpedal. There, but we are realizing that there are things that we took action on too fast that we really shouldn't have.
00:38:59:16 – 00:39:26:14
Rebecca
And it's okay to go back and to fix things, because we might have taken an action of too much. Well, for a selfish, selfish action in the past, and now is a time to go back and make that right. And even in your personal life and personal relationships, you might see areas where you might have acted, more with more concern of your own needs.
00:39:26:16 – 00:39:29:22
Rebecca
And there's room for just a greater egalitarian approach.
00:39:29:22 – 00:39:54:02
Amanda
At our 2025 forecast event, Christopher Wren Ostrom, the theme for the year, he said, was around the masculine, was around a developing or cultivating or identifying a healthy masculine way in the world. And it sounds to me like this March is this is big part of the theme.
00:39:54:07 – 00:40:19:04
Rebecca
I mean, that was the choir on return of the United States of America was on its birthday this year. Right. Which is like the healing of the masculine also in this country. I, I agree with him for sure. There's a lot of focus. And, you know, there's this whole big thing now culturally about men feeling adrift, and how women have been improving so much and more and more women going to school and all these things.
00:40:19:06 – 00:40:47:00
Rebecca
And so there's like, there's a lot of attention on that right now. But I think we have to be careful not to put all of the attention on that. Men either. They're like Pluto and Aquarius, and Pluto also says in Aquarius, let's make sure that there is equanimity and everybody is treated fairly. Yeah. But yeah, it's going to be an interesting retrograde of both Mercury and Venus and Aries.
00:40:47:00 – 00:41:13:07
Rebecca
I mean it's sort of like I can't help but think with all this air and fire. Yes. It feels like rockets going up into space. It feels like it does feel very masculine in some ways like that. And I think things are going to change a lot when Jupiter moves into cancer in June, and we're going to see the feminine rise up a lot more in the second half of the year and positions of leadership, too, when Jupiter moves into cancer.
00:41:13:11 – 00:41:33:01
Amanda
Yeah, let's touch on a few more of the of the planetary movements for the year, because I know March doesn't happen in isolation. You know, astrology shows us that none of these cycles ever happen in isolation. But is there anything you're saying this is a kick off moment? So what is it kicking off? What are the next few things that are going to happen that are significant?
00:41:33:05 – 00:41:57:17
Rebecca
It's kicking off a renaissance like it is. I'm seeing this year as a complete renaissance. Now, if we want to look back in history, the two other times that we had Uranus in Gemini and Pluto in Aquarius were the French and American Revolution and then the Italian Renaissance. Okay, it is such a fertile landscape to create from whatever everything.
00:41:57:19 – 00:42:23:08
Rebecca
And Aries, Gemini and Aquarius where it's going. So it's fertile for your new ideas that all of the, all of the stations are changing, all of them are changing one month after another until we're in a completely new world. So if we're still stuck on complaining about what the administration is doing or making fun of them or whatever, then we're not creating the world that we wish to live in.
00:42:23:10 – 00:42:46:21
Rebecca
And I think it's really important right now to realize that it's it is our consciousness in the unified field that creates the reality. So astrologers love to say as above, so below. But I like to say as below, so above. In other words, our collective psyche here. Absolutely impregnating consciousness. Carl Jung once said, once you've imagined it, then it's real.
00:42:46:23 – 00:43:19:12
Rebecca
And I couldn't agree with that more. I think that our imagination is the most powerful tool, and now science is even proving all of these things that how thought and intention and imagination and will impact reality. And we know that from the observer effect on experiments, you know, and I think that there's just more and more neuroscience experiments done in the last year that really show how our consciousness bends, shifts, reality and how we can actually move energy.
00:43:19:14 – 00:43:23:24
Rebecca
I think Neptune and Aries is turning us all into superheroes in a way.
00:43:24:01 – 00:43:45:21
Amanda
Oh my gosh. So you have given us some inklings of ideas of of what we can actually do with this energy. What would be a productive use of this energy? I always love to think about, you know, what is the invitation? When we're aware of what's happening, we can choose how we're going to respond and and dance with and work with the energies that are available to us.
00:43:45:23 – 00:43:58:09
Amanda
So you said, realize that we're in fertile ground, that you have an opportunity to really like plant seeds that will produce fruit.
00:43:58:11 – 00:44:31:09
Rebecca
Yes. Also like we're putting you know, I see everybody putting so much energy into technology and AI and all that, assuming that that is what we're supposed to be doing with Pluto and Aquarius and Uranus. The Gemini is just training this. I. But what if we are the technology? Like, what if we should be putting a lot more energy into this technology that your body is that my body is that everybody listening, that we are because we are a technology that we can activate as well.
00:44:31:11 – 00:44:56:09
Rebecca
And so if we look back to all the previous cycles, we're going to see the development of consciousness on Pluto and Aquarius meets here in US in Gemini. And I think that, we have to be putting a lot more energy into tapping into much more of our consciousness of what the mind can actually do. Because I come on the scene and it's like, okay, humans, you thought you were here to make spreadsheets.
00:44:56:15 – 00:45:16:08
Rebecca
I got that covered. Humans. You thought you were here just to remember names, dates and places. I got that it's asking humanity to step up their game. I think AI's asking us to step up to the plate and become more of a human, expand more of our consciousness. We don't just need to be in the limbic brain, and there's not any more.
00:45:16:08 – 00:45:39:13
Rebecca
Like there's so much more that we are here to develop. And we've seen if you just look at the, yeah, things like the telepathy tapes and the Into Intuition project and all of these things that are being done already. So I think whatever your industry is, yes, we're here to learn new skills right now. Everybody has to learn new skills and also exploration of consciousness.
00:45:39:15 – 00:46:09:20
Rebecca
And in the age of Pisces, I think it was all like for themselves and for the gurus. But it's like, how can we expand more of our consciousness? How can we do this all for the greater good, for Pluto and Aquarius? So I think there is what can we all do for the world? How is our how are each of our personal actions impacting the world and for everybody and anybody thinking of you, have you have an idea in your pocket if there's something you've been wanting to do, like, yes, this is Renaissance.
00:46:09:20 – 00:46:42:12
Rebecca
This is a fertile ground. And knowing that your imagination is powerful and it's resonating out in the field ten times more with suit on Aquarius and Uranus in Gemini than it was with Pluto in Capricorn and Uranus in Taurus. Because there's much less density in the unified field, it is all air, and you know how fast things travel through air and fire and how all the planets were just in Earth and water, which was heavy.
00:46:42:14 – 00:47:07:20
Rebecca
Know that your thoughts, your feelings, your intentions are traveling far and fast right now. And I think that's really exciting and inspiring. It also forces us to become more accountable. I think that's going to be really important is to we're going to recognize because you can recognize when you give ChatGPT a prompt, immediately, it's going to show you back what you were thinking, and then you're going to have to refine that thought.
00:47:07:22 – 00:47:16:21
Rebecca
So we're already learning how to give orders to the universe and how to clarify and refine our intentions. We're getting some training involved.
00:47:16:21 – 00:47:41:00
Amanda
Rebecca. Speaking of training, it makes me think that the last 14 years of Neptune in Pisces has, in a way been training wheels, because a lot of these ideas we knew, but we wouldn't get the direct result. We wouldn't get the direct feedback on the use of our imagination. For example, you know, it was a it was a theoretical concept that, yes, our imagination is powerful and it creates realities.
00:47:41:02 – 00:47:53:04
Amanda
But it sounds to me, because of the shift in the air and to air and fire, that we're going to have more of an immediate experience of that imagination being able to create.
00:47:53:06 – 00:48:20:12
Rebecca
Absolutely even. But your mind can be hooked up to devices where your imagination literally does create a scene. And what the kids are saying, the young kids right now that that I've been talking to and that are around, that are very psychic and telepathic. They have, been saying that the more people in the room that believe it, that believe their intuitions, that are not doubting them, the more their abilities turn on.
00:48:20:14 – 00:48:41:02
Rebecca
And this has been noticed, and the kids are even saying this when people are in the room that are not believing and that are in doubt, they are not able to show up with the abilities in the same way, how things just literally the the sun is moving through space, everything's moving or moving into new areas or new parts of our consciousness are developing.
00:48:41:02 – 00:48:57:09
Rebecca
I think that is the most exciting thing for this next 14 years, is this kind of bold forging into our consciousness, and what more are we? We are not here to work 40 hour workweek. We are not. Could make spreadsheets and do all the things that we thought we were here to do. I think ChatGPT is actually that is the good part.
00:48:57:12 – 00:49:19:02
Rebecca
It's actually leaving more room for us to become an expert explorer is again be the Aries, Aquarius and explorers of consciousness. But as you were saying, it's not just like this, kind of like meandering and Pisces anymore. No, we can focus on a move here and have an outcome and take an action. It's about taking action.
00:49:19:05 – 00:49:42:03
Amanda
It's about taking action. Rebecca, you feel and seem optimistic about the future. Like you seem like like you see a frontier that is really exciting. Is there anything that I don't want to, like put a damper on that at all? And is there is there a shadow side of of some of these other things that we've been talking about as well?
00:49:42:05 – 00:50:18:03
Rebecca
For sure. There's always a shadow, though. I feel the reason I'm I mean, I actually have a lot of hope in the future right now. But I do think in order for all of these things to manifest, more people need to get on board with seeing that this is a renaissance and acting as it is, and actually impregnating consciousness and moving in that direction, taking action as far as things to watch out for, I think it's yeah, too much worshiping of strength, I think in in Pisces, when Neptune was subtitled, he might have worshiped the underdog a lot.
00:50:18:03 – 00:50:30:04
Rebecca
We might have wanted to lift up the underdog. And when Neptune moves into Aries, we want to lift up the strong. And I think that that can also backfire to.
00:50:30:06 – 00:50:55:19
Amanda
Do you agree that as we move through the zodiac signs, it's about taking the lessons, taking the the gifts of the previous sign, weaving it into the next experience. We don't just, like, close the door and forget about it. You're right. Like we continue to grow by having that experience of that zodiac sign, but then integrating it into the the gifts of the next sign.
00:50:55:21 – 00:51:18:12
Rebecca
Absolutely, I, I agree, I mean it's a beautiful it's a book and these are all chapters. Yeah. I think that we can also run into problems thinking that we're and it's a bit self-loathing for humanity to think that we're supposed to just put everything into technologies instead of us, and looking at us as the technology, our minds, our bodies, are capable of so much more than.
00:51:18:12 – 00:51:42:10
Rebecca
That's where I see the shift needing to take place. And all of the exciting research that I'm following is about neuroscience right now, and that field is tremendous. It's growing so fast in that just in the last year, I think that will expand here at the intersection between science and spirituality. It's getting they're getting closer and closer. They're getting more and more in that together.
00:51:42:10 – 00:51:45:21
Rebecca
You know there are no what do you feel we have to watch out for.
00:51:45:23 – 00:52:07:08
Amanda
What you just said. I really, really resonate with this. The fear that these new directions are going to make humans obsolete. Like like, oh, no, what what are we going to do? Because we can't do the spreadsheets and all those things anymore. Instead of, okay, wow, what what is the opportunity and what does it actually mean to be human?
00:52:07:08 – 00:52:07:17
Amanda
What are.
00:52:07:17 – 00:52:08:10
Rebecca
We.
00:52:08:15 – 00:52:28:16
Amanda
Contributing? What what capacities do we have that I doesn't have? I was listening to a great talk by one of the men who he was like, number three at ChatGPT. He was one of the ones who, like, created it. And he said that people ask him all the time, you know, what is I going to do next? What is I?
00:52:28:20 – 00:52:51:04
Amanda
Because they're kind of like hedging their bet, trying to figure out what, you know, what they can do. And he said it's not the right question. The right question is what is I not going to do? Because those are the things that we're here to do. And he brought in things like, compassion and empathy and creativity and, you know, this, this expansion that we, we have available to us.
00:52:51:04 – 00:53:09:10
Amanda
But if we forget that we do have these gifts, if we forget that we do have these technologies, then like you said, we're really missing an opportunity. And I also love what you said about more people being online, that this is that we're in a renaissance and that you do have something to contribute to this if you choose to contribute to it.
00:53:09:16 – 00:53:20:17
Amanda
Right. It's not just like a right that that you will be contributing to it. You actually have to choose and participate and contribute on some level. You know, some of the gifts that you came here with.
00:53:20:19 – 00:53:47:06
Rebecca
Absolutely. So we in the like in the height of, the Italian Renaissance when we were translating all of the old platonic texts that we would have never had. And it was just amazing to, of course, the resurgence of ancient texts and arts and culture. A few things were happening at once, but consciousness was expanding. Our consciousness grew so much because we were we were able to access this treasure trove of writings of all antiquity.
00:53:47:06 – 00:54:15:08
Rebecca
Suddenly, and combine all thought and new thought and all of these things into a new way of being creative for the future, so that before that art had to be like about religion, it was, you know, you were painting Jesus, you were studying religion. And all of a sudden it was like this birth of the humanities. And consciousness grew so much in that way that this a renaissance is not only affects, arts and culture, but but also like general sense of consciousness.
00:54:15:08 – 00:54:37:22
Rebecca
Just our learning about all of these philosophies and texts made us think as a species and a whole different way. And I think what it what it is asking us is to tap into more of our conscious, our own consciousness, and I think that's something that is the most fertile ground right now. And I actually really do feel that humans are super heroes.
00:54:37:24 – 00:55:04:22
Rebecca
And there's so much of that superhero part of us and our abilities that we haven't tapped into. But there's a danger to that, and there's a danger to all of this Aries energy. And humans thinking they God in a way we can say, yes, God is in everything but thinking that we are more powerful than nature, you know, and these fires that have happened in our life, and we're going to see more things like that until we garner a sense of reverence for the earth, too.
00:55:04:22 – 00:55:27:13
Rebecca
And this is the one thing that's been lacking, you know, throughout our whole modernity is reverence. When the Iroquois found it, that's contrary. Right? Right. They had a very complex democracy. And where they had all of their states under the federal law, they had state law and they also had a council of women. Now, that is Franklin and our founding fathers came in.
00:55:27:13 – 00:55:32:10
Rebecca
They were like, oh, we like your democracy, but the Council of Women, let's take it out. You know.
00:55:32:12 – 00:55:35:02
Amanda
Where they grandmothers? Or was it just women? Yeah.
00:55:35:04 – 00:55:35:20
Rebecca
Grandmothers.
00:55:35:20 – 00:55:49:03
Amanda
Yeah. Mothers. Yeah. I mean, that to me is even more like profound. They were they were women. They were grandmothers, you know, they were elder women. And they were bringing that back would be a really good idea.
00:55:49:05 – 00:56:08:00
Rebecca
Absolutely. So in this return of the Constitution, the Pluto return of the Constitution, the flute, a return of Bill of rights, all these things right now that we're home, I think we put on Aquarius, all of that. We're here to look at what was this country founded upon. Okay. What actually went down there, and why are things so, Marcy?
00:56:08:00 – 00:56:26:22
Rebecca
Why are things so Aries and out of balance now? And I think we're going to see a big spotlight on that this year when everything goes retrograde an areas, we're going to see how Mars and too much alpha energy, it's actually detrimental for the health of a society. So comes that was a stretch that bring you back to that.
00:56:26:22 – 00:56:48:10
Rebecca
You know, the Council of Women. I'm so happy you know about that too, because I'm always thinking about are we actually up for a new system of governance, like, I think a board of directors is a better idea. I think we need a council women, because any time back then, those guys wanted to go live. Like if the channel wanted to fight the Seneca tribe, they would have had to run it by the Council of Women.
00:56:48:10 – 00:56:52:11
Rebecca
Right? And the women would have said, no, you're on the line more.
00:56:52:16 – 00:56:59:19
Amanda
Or maybe yes, maybe we need to do this to protect the children. Or maybe not. But it would be at least a balance.
00:56:59:19 – 00:57:01:20
Rebecca
There would have a civil discourse about it.
00:57:01:20 – 00:57:02:19
Amanda
Yes, yes, talk.
00:57:02:19 – 00:57:23:15
Rebecca
About it instead of just go to war. Right. That was so necessary to keep a balance in society. And we've been so out of balance without women in governments at all. And we're half the species here. Amanda. Right. And there's been hardly there's been none of us represented really, as president and the whole.
00:57:23:15 – 00:57:40:17
Amanda
Question and even in the current environment, even if you are a female in government, it seems like you have to take on a lot of the male, attributes in order to get there. Yeah, it's it's definitely skewed. It's definitely out of balance.
00:57:40:17 – 00:57:53:04
Rebecca
Yeah. I feel like that's going to become so in our face, pronounced with all these retrograde scenarios and march to like we're going to say, oh, well, that's where it took us okay. Lessons learned.
00:57:53:06 – 00:57:53:20
Amanda
Right?
00:57:54:01 – 00:57:55:07
Rebecca
Right. You know,
00:57:55:09 – 00:58:14:02
Amanda
Rebecca, thank you so much. I feel like we have such a thorough, understanding of the landscape of March, but also where March fits into the larger context of the storyline that we're in for 2025, but not only 2025, really within these bigger cycles of 14 years. And the Pluto cycles and, you know, all of it. So thank you.
00:58:14:02 – 00:58:38:18
Amanda
And even going back to 1860, whatever you brought in, that was amazing. But thank you so much for for giving us this perspective, for also giving us some, some things we can really sink into in terms of how we as individuals want to participate with these energies. And, you know, we're it's we're not at the mercy of these energies that we actually do get to dance with them.
00:58:38:18 – 00:59:00:02
Amanda
I always think about dancing or surfing or, you know, these things that we are we are actually in a co-creative experience with the universe itself. And it sounds to me like we're going to be realizing that more and more and more, which is very exciting. Rebecca, it is such a pleasure to be here with you. Thank you. I've loved getting to know your story and getting to know more about your astrology and your perspective.
00:59:00:06 – 00:59:05:07
Amanda
So thank you for your generous contribution of time and I can't wait to see you again.
00:59:05:12 – 00:59:10:13
Rebecca
Thank you dearly, Amanda. It was such an honor to chat with you. I had so much fun. Thanks a lot.
00:59:10:15 – 00:59:24:12
Amanda
Amazing. Okay, and thanks to all of you for being here, for being interested, for for participating yourselves with the energies. Can't wait to see you on the next episode. Thank you for making astrology a part of your life, and I'll see you soon. Take care.