[2026 Prep Series] Saturn Neptune at Zero Aries and the Call to Live What’s True w/ Marc Laurenson

 

 

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  • 00:00 – Intro
  • 02:02 – Outer Planet Epiphanies
  • 17:33 – Neptune: Trusting the Unseen
  • 23:36 – Midpoints
  • 26:49 – Saturn-Neptune Conjunctions
  • 31:38 – Resentment & Purpose
  • 34:32 – Early Degree Activations
  • 37:53 – Nodes Change Signs

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“Do you realize how much fresh water you’re adding into a muddy lake? … Do you realize how important that is?” – Marc Laurenson

 

Transcript:

Intro
—

Amanda: [00:00:00] We are in for a treat today. We have a very special guest with us. His name is Mark Laurenson, and he has very quickly become a beloved favorite for our Inner Circle membership, but also for the Astrology hub community because of his soul focused astrology. Mark has been in our community for a couple of years now, but he has been teaching and practicing astrology for over 30 years, and he started the sydney Astrology School in 2007. So he has been teaching astrology for a very long time

and we're so lucky

to have him here. We're gonna be continuing our conversation around 2026 tomorrow, we have our free 2026. Forecast panel event, It is featuring seven astrologers. Mark is

one of them. But as

we have these discussions at the free forecast event, we won't be able to drill into really specific detail because we only have so much [00:01:00] time. And that's why this series that where we're talking to the astrologers individually, we can go even deeper.

So we're gonna start with what I'm considering, the new buzzword. Of 2026, the new astrological buzzword, and that is midpoint. Midpoint is not something that we've been talking about a whole lot in the last few years, but it seems to be extraordinarily important this year. So Mark talked to us about the mid points and why this is so important and how it's going to impact our experience this year.

Marc: Well, first of all, thank you so much for having me back, Amanda.

I love being

part of

Astrology Hub. I feel very at home here. As I said, I feel that your. The way you deal with astrology and see astrology

and the way I

do my best with being able to interpret astrology, we run in alignment with each other.

So I feel really, really,

really good to be here.

Okay? so [00:02:00] 2026. I. Wow. Okay.

Outer Planet Epiphanies
—

Marc: So you've heard a lot of astrologers already talking about it being the year, you know, because of a lot of planets all changing sign all at once and they're making aspects with

each other.

But I'm gonna open by

actually saying

that this

year

could actually be one of the best years in certain people's lives.

If you wanna

have a word, if you

want to have one word that sums up this year for me, and that's an epiphany.

An epiphany is like a waking up.

It's like a waking up from a dream,

so to speak,

and it's a feeling of coming into

a sense

of actually knowing who you

truly are.

Okay.

Now we all kind of, when I say we are living lies, I don't mean we're being deceitful, but I am saying that we've kind of blind ourselves or blinker ourselves from. From the life we're meant to live because, you know, we come here and then we get indoctrinated from the word [00:03:00] go. You know, we, we, we get told who

to be what kind of

job

to have and to follow the rules and regulations.

And a lot of the time we just fall, fall into, into, in, into suit.

You know, we just, we just go along this patterning in a way

Without

questioning anything.

And I

wanna say that

2026 could be a year for a lot of people where they

actually go,

oh my

God, I've been living a life that's not mine.

GMT20260105-230525_Recording_avo_1280x720: Hmm.

Marc: This is not my

life.

And I wanna say that every planet

we're gonna be talking about, particularly the big

three and the midpoint

picture,

are gonna be saying this, you know, with bells on and. This is so, so important for everybody to, to really understand that you might be having a, a life that feels okay, and

the

people in

your life might be, you know,

the people that you want

and you might be in a job that feels all right to you,

but.

Something about 2026

is [00:04:00] gonna

trigger something for you on

the level of coming down to the essence of who you are, basically,

why you incarnated in

the first

place. Okay?

And what I mean by this is when you

are looking at Neptune and Saturn. Zero degrees Aries. Okay? Zero degrees Aries is the starting point.

It's the beginning of the

zodiac,

and so there, it's the shot of the gun. It's the initiating point. And so there is something rebooting. We are

being taken down to factory settings

almost, and we

are starting all over again. Okay? So

when

you think of Neptune, Neptune is our essence.

Neptune doesn't know anything about the body.

It doesn't know anything about the material world. It doesn't know anything about form. It's the essence of who

we are.

It works through our dreams, our imagination, our intuition, and our

connection to life.

Okay, that's Neptune. [00:05:00] Satin, on

the other hand,

is the opposite, that satin is here on the planet.

Satin is mastery. Satin

is that feeling of you've come here in the land of limitation in a body and you have to deal with

a very, very concrete environment and you have to do the

best you can with it. And there's a sense of

responsibility that goes

with this.

So let's put these two together.

Spiritual responsibility or concreting

your essence.

Okay? And because.

We're talking about zero degrees

Aries. We

are talking

about the beginning of

the Zodiac,

and so

that Pisces time is over now

and we could have been living in

that dream. Neptune in Pisces could have been living in that dream

where we just

kind

of went

through the motions, kind of numbed ourselves to

things,

and now it's kind of like, hang on. It is wake

up time and it's,

and it's about

get getting going.

It's about moving, it's about doing [00:06:00] things.

And these planets are three planets that are in this midpoint picture, which I'll talk about in a set are all moving from y y science to yang signs. Okay? They're all moving from water and earth

and they're moving into fire

and air.

Okay? Fire and air is movement.

There's lots of movement in fire and air. Earth and water

are

much more internal.

They're much more

responsive. Okay? So everything is coming out now. Everything's

coming out into the open. Everything wants to free up.

Everything wants to

move

now.

And so I want to say 2026

for a lot of people is going to get people off the couch.

It's gonna get people thinking about

their lives, and it's

gonna get

people thinking,

am I really doing what

I've come onto the planet to do?

Because. That

Neptune feeling of coming into your, your

soul self, or your essence is speaking to you from the inside out.

So it [00:07:00] wants you to actually start

to get out into the world and live what's going on in the

inside

of you.

And

it wants you to concrete it, it wants you to put it into

some kind of form. It wants you to, to

create

a, a mountain to climb with this.

That's satin.

Okay. And so there's a feeling now of this particular energy

at the midpoint of two other planets

that have just changed sign as well. Well, Uranus is gonna be changing

sign at the end of April and then stays there until 2023.

Pluto's been in Aquarius for a little while now, just every a year now. But the mid, what a midpoint picture is, is that a a, a planet, the focal planet is in the middle. And the

two bookend planets. The two planets on either side of the focal planet, they have

to act as a support system. For

the midpoint planet.

For the midpoint planet to be elevated.

Now, a good way of being able to understand this, if you are in a sports game [00:08:00] and

you've won a match and there was one particular player that

did really, really well and they put that player

on their shoulders, you know, and they do the big trophy thing,

two

men.

Usually have the

player on their shoulders.

The two

men that are supporting the player on their shoulder are the bookend planets.

Okay? And the player on the shoulders, the

player on the

shoulders

with

the trophy is the focal planet in the middle. Okay?

So the two bookend planets

have to support the middle planet.

In

a midpoint picture.

Okay? Now, midpoints

don't have to

be an aspect with each other. You can get midpoint outside of aspects, but these ones actually are in aspects, you know, they're

making sex tiles. The middle

planet, which is Neptune and

satin for a short

period

of time is actually

in what's

called a sextile.

To Uranus and to Pluto,

and a sex is

a stimulating

aspect.

It's an aspect that gives you

a

little bit of a buzz or a little bit of a fear. It allows things to, to work in a very [00:09:00] positive

way, and it excites. It's got that exciting kind of feeling about it.

Uranus, as we all know, is a breakthrough

planet.

Uranus wants

to do what it wants to do,

it wants freedom, and it's not necessarily

gonna run by the rules.

It's gonna bust out and do its own thing. So that's

one of the planets

that are holding

up

Neptune and Saturn, particularly

Neptune. Okay. The other planet is Pluto.

As we know, Pluto is a deeply transformative planet, but it's

always about truth

and it's always about fearlessness.

The fearlessness of living life without feeling that anything outside of you has power

over you.

The

more you give power

to outside things, the more you give power to, to approval or money or success or anything outside of yourself that you are at the mercy of Pluto is gonna go right down there and go, what are you scared of?

It's [00:10:00] gonna bring it up and it's gonna show you

what it is. It's a little bit

like there's

no boogeyman

under

the bed, really

and truly.

So here we have Pluto, deeply transformative around truth and around who you truly are. To get an over any

fear that's holding you back,

ura that

is breaking

free and really doesn't

care.

Doesn't care what you think about,

it doesn't care how it's coming

across. It just

wants to live its life authentically and

truthfully,

these two planets are the ones that are holding up Neptune and Saturn, so Neptune and Saturn, which is kind of coming

into that feeling of as I said, spiritual.

I wanna

say that

it's not

necessarily responsibility, but

it is a

feeling of,

of coming into the

driver's seat of your

life on a

soul level.

And when I say a spiritual level, it doesn't have to be spiritual work. It

just has to be that part that makes your heart smile.

It has to be that part that makes

your insides [00:11:00] glow. And when your heart is smiling and when your inside is glowing, you are on track. You are on track with

what you need to do,

and I want to say that 2026 for a lot of us

could actually be a time where we finally come on track with why we are here based on those planets doing

their thing.

But as I

said, you are not

necessarily, it's

not necessarily gonna be a walk

in the

park.

It's not gonna be like, I'm gonna wake

up one morning and it's all gonna work out. It's kind of like Uhuh, you are gonna have to deal with

your stuff. You are gonna have to deal with

what's holding you back.

Neptune is about releasing, Neptune is about letting go.

You know, Neptune

is about that

feeling of, of

it's got a dissolving, dissipating feeling and

people go, oh, I

don't like

that, because they feel they're gonna lose

something. But I want to say what you are

losing is what's holding

you back.

What you are losing is what's making life difficult for

you.

What

you are [00:12:00] losing is what is in the way of you becoming the

person you wanna be.

That's what you'll

be losing. You're not gonna be losing anything else.

People go, oh, but my survival, you know, survival. That feeling of survival becomes really strong. What if I go for something that's gonna risk my survival? It's gonna risk my money, it's gonna risk people in my life

again, I wanna actually say

that if you

don't

do it. If you don't do something

about moving closer to what makes your heart smile, as I said, this particular lifetime, it's gonna actually feel like you are not surviving at all, if you know what I mean.

There's a feeling of

not, not

really living.

You

might be getting a

paycheck and your bank account might be looking

okay, but you are

not really living,

you're

not really surviving,

you

know?

You

are just keeping, basically you're

keeping your head above

water.

So the survival that you're looking for is that feeling

of just holding

[00:13:00] onto something, you know, keeping your head above water that way, and

that's what you think is important.

But you know, in

the

end, you are gonna actually

start to go Uhuh. That's not enough. That's not enough.

Amanda: It was, it was amazing. I mean, I have to say, you basically just summarized every takeaway

that I have included

in

my book

that will be out in, I don't know when, but soon. But essentially that,

That

Question of, of what am I actually here for? Like I'm doing all these things because that's what I thought I was supposed to

do. And everybody told

me that's what I'm supposed

to do, but like, is this

it for real?

Because it's kind of depressing, you know, if we're really just here to do the thing and then. Basically die and then hope that we go somewhere better.

You know? I don't think any of

us really came here for that. And, and so yes, the, but the

process of

getting in alignment and actually living from that place where you have [00:14:00] that sense of peace

and fulfillment

and joy

internally,

it does require all that shedding.

It does require, I mean, literally. Like deconstructing these identities that we've created for ourselves and that we think we are,

and that process,

in my experience is not super comfortable, but extraordinarily fruitful.

Speaker 2: like I mentioned in the beginning of this podcast episode, mark is going to be one of seven astrologers that we are gonna be featuring over two days. We are gonna be focusing on the astrology of 2026. If you are not yet registered, I highly recommend that you check it out. You go to astrology hub.com/ 2026, forecast to reserve your seat. If you look at the times and think, oh, shoot, I can't make those times register anyways, because

we will be sending the replay and one of the things that every single registrant for the free forecast panel is gonna get is a download that marks [00:15:00] out all of the important transits of the year. So you're gonna be able to, in one little sheet, look at all the important astrology of the year. And then at the event, or if you're listening to the recording, you'll be able to put your notes there and then transfer that to your calendar or whatever works for you.

Again, that's astrology hub.com/ 2026 forecast. We'll also drop that link in the show notes and now back to the episode.

Amanda: You said something in the beginning

too, mark, you said

some people. May have the best

year of

their

lives.

Why some people and why not all people?

And, and what, and is this this something in our charts, or is it more in the way that we approach the year?

Marc: Well, you know, every,

everybody's chart and everybody's life is subject to their

choices. It's always gonna be subject

to you. And there's a lot

of people who are gonna step up to the

plate and

actually go, I'm ready for this.

And

there's a lot of people who are actually gonna

go,

no, I

can [00:16:00] see it all there,

but no, I'm not gonna I'm not going there. I'm not gonna do it. And this

doesn't make people

good or

bad. It's not about, you know, judging

people, but it

is

about.

We're

still everything in everything in the chart, everything is in life is

subject to the choices that we make.

You could have actually gone, no, I'm not gonna do

Astrology Hub. I've changed my mind.

You know, you could have actually done that.

You could have actually gone, no, I'll try and make

my life something, you know, some in,

in another

way. But

your choice was to do astrology

help,

you know,

and to, to create this amazing, amazing place for people to learn. But you know, that was you that did

that.

You

know, the universe just didn't pop

astrology hub into your lounge room and said,

there you go, Amanda.

It's kind of

like, no, you've made that choice.

GMT20260105-230525_Recording_avo_1280x720: And

Amanda: there was a lot of pain before that

choice. I mean, and there were a lot of times where I kind of wished I could go back, but it was too, you know, [00:17:00] once you're, once you're on the path, it, it's, you don't really get to go back. There is no real going back. And at this point, of course, I would never want to, but there were the moments when it was really messy, really challenging, really hard, where it was

like,

Ooh, is this, is this, is this story gonna end well?

Marc: Yeah,

Amanda: couldn't see that in the moment,

Right?

GMT20260105-230525_Recording_avo_1280x720: Yeah.

Marc: And it has

it's, it's ended really well.

Amanda: It really well,

Marc: it's like, it's beautiful. And so

see

how you've,

you've kept the faith, you know, you've, you've trusted the process

Neptune: Trusting the Unseen
—

Marc: and

this is Neptune. Neptune is

always gonna be about that. In the end. Neptune is always gonna be about trusting the unseen. Don't get caught up in the results.

Don't get caught up in guarantees. Don't get caught up in it. Has

to look this this

way

because that's like barbed wire around the universe.

You know, when you are trying to micromanage the universe, the universe is going, I can't get in. Sorry, I can't help you

here

because you are [00:18:00] so invested on having it done the way you want

it done.

Neptune is about allow it, allow it to manifest, allow it to flow, allow everything, all the moving parts to come together beautifully

and easily. And if you get

out of the way, in other words, you

have a vision, you have your vision, you'll have, this is what I want my life to look like,

And then actually go, rather than actually saying, oh,

I've gotta

work hard at it,

which a lot of us do.

Come into a place now of this is what I'm meant to be doing.

This is why I'm here.

this is why I'm

here

and because I know, because why I'm here

makes me feel good. If it makes you feel good, that's why you

are here.

Okay, so I wanna say that the fact is that this.

GMT20260105-230525_Recording_avo_1280x720: this.

Marc: This feeling that I have is enough to trust and to allow it, allow it room to take shape

the

way

it needs to.

I'm still gonna put one foot in [00:19:00] front

of the other, you know what

I mean? I'm still gonna make phone calls. I'm

still gonna set my things up,

but I'm not really gonna get too caught up in. Micromanaging getting exactly the way I want it to, and I want it to look

like this at this

time, and I wanna make this

amount of money because all that

kind of stuff is really, really gonna get in the way of things.

And Neptune, for you this particular year. Being the midpoint between

two planets,

one

that is

radically trying, gonna try something completely new and completely different. And Pluto, which is actually looking at you in the face on the level of what are you scared of? Because you've gotta

get over that.

Those two planets now are actually boosting this beautiful, beautiful part of us that actually knows why we are here, knows

what we need to do, and we need to trust and relax into that. A lot of [00:20:00] people actually say,

oh, I don't know what that is. I have no idea.

And I want to say, yes, you do.

You know

exactly what

it is,

but you are just too scared to follow it.

You're too scared to follow it. You know what it is. You know what makes your heart sing. You know, what makes

you smile. You

know what puts, you know, makes your life feel

right. You are just

a little bit.

A little bit too scared to, to take a chance or follow

a

color outside the lines or,

or do something that, you know,

basically you've been programmed not

to do.

You know? So this year is gonna be big on that level. It's gonna be big on you,

kind of

turning everything around, turning your life on its head, basically,

and start creating a life. Very differently to

the to the one you've got, but closer, much, much closer to something that's really, really gonna make you feel happy and joyful and satisfied.

Yeah.

Amanda: Mark, would you say? So I, I'm [00:21:00] thinking of myself back in New York

City, dreaming of a different

life than the one that I had built. And I, I certainly didn't have the details at all. Like I would've never imagined astrology hub it was so outside the realm of my perspective. but what I could feel was the essence of what I wanted to. Be of benefit to people. I wanted my unique gifts and skills to actually be put to use in a way that I felt passionate about it. I knew it was beneficial. I knew it was helping people and, and I was able to create a sustainable life

for myself around

it.

Like

all of that was clear.

I wanted to

love it, and

that was clear. But I had no idea what it was. I really didn't, and I, I really couldn't have even imagined

it. So I just wanna say

that to anyone out there who's like, I don't know the

specifics. And,

and also the technology didn't even exist

for it. To come into form

the way that it has.

So there's so much [00:22:00] still revealing itself in terms of the how. I think that's for sure. In terms of the, how you would ever deliver the thing that you wanna do, that you feel like you have to give. But also some of the details may not be clear, but it's the essence. It's the quality. Like Mark was talking in the beginning, that our essence, you can feel your essence, right?

You can

feel Mark's

essence. You can feel my essence. If you tune in, you can feel your essence. The essence of the thing

that you're here to do

is something you can tune into,

and

that can be the guiding light throughout the time to really start to get

specific and start to

get granular and start to do the

Saturn thing where

it becomes inform.

Marc: Yeah, totally,

GMT20260105-230525_Recording_avo_1280x720: totally.

Marc: totally.

Amanda: So I have a question for you and is now back on this midpoint is the buzzword

of 2026.

I mean, astrological, I know most people are talking about it. I, and we're gonna be doing a class on midpoint, actually later this year with Rick Levine. But in the

meantime, How does

this work?

So

when you said Neptune is at the front and [00:23:00] he and Neptune's being held up, and we have Pluto and Uranus here, and, and Neptune is on.

Neptune and Saturn for a moment are on Uranus and Pluto's shoulders. I love this visual and, and I would recommend all of you

draw

it. Like if you have a piece of paper, draw that. Put Neptune and Saturn at the top. Put Uranus over here, put Pluto over here, and then just feel

into that like feel into, you know, but it's a midpoint.

So first of all, explain what that is first, second. Is that active all year? Are there points where it's more active than not? Like how does it work technically?

Midpoints
—

Marc: Well in a midpoint, in in the sky, like what we're

experiencing this

year, it's gonna last as long.

GMT20260105-230525_Recording_avo_1280x720: as long

Marc: as those three planets

stay within a couple of degrees

of each other. That's how long it will last. So as soon as

they move out of those couple of degrees of each other, they're outside the midpoint.

Amanda: Well, you don't mean, you don't mean outside of each other, like as a conjunction, right? You mean outside of each other in terms of the sex tile

that they're [00:24:00]

Marc: The sex tiles. Yeah. And they're gonna be

in sextile

with each other. Neptune Saturn will move on because Saturn's only gonna be in that midpoint pizza

from FE in February,

from the middle of February until early March.

Okay.

Saturn will

move on, but Neptune and Uranus and Pluto. We'll be in that midpoint picture for the best part of a couple of

years.

You know, 'cause they, they all move very, very slowly.

So we are gonna

get a the full brunt of it

this year in 2026, but it's still gonna go into 2027 as well.

And so we have

midpoint in our natal charts as well. We

are

looking at planets in our natal charts, and as I said, they don't have to be an aspect.

A midpoint is just the, the, a mathematical

degree, equal degree between two planets.

GMT20260105-230525_Recording_avo_1280x720: planets.

Marc: So midpoint between

your moon and your Mars, you just

find the mathematical degree software does

this, and

that's a dietal degree.

That's equidistant from

both is the

midpoint. And you're gonna have

[00:25:00] what's called a direct midpoint. An indirect midpoint, which is just, just a degree. It might be 14 Capricorn

or 22 Aries or nine cancer,

just

a degree.

But a

direct

midpoint is when you

have a planet there. When you have a planet on the midpoint and that planet becomes the focal planet, and that planet now becomes elevated

or

helped out to,

to work at its best by

the other two planets

that are working as a kind of

like a team.

Another visual is, you know, if you wanted to get somebody over a fence. Two people, it'd be good

to have two people to

lift that person so that

person can get over the fence.

So the two people who are lifting are the bookend planets and getting

over the fence is the midpoint planet.

And

so Whatever the

midpoint planet is, and in this case it's gonna be

Neptune.

Neptune

has to,

and you said something really, really wonderful, Amanda, and I wanna bring [00:26:00] this

in.

Is the, is Neptune is

always,

is always trying to

understand. A feeling of bringing everything together.

'cause Neptune only knows the oneness of of life.

Knows. The oneness of the universe.

Knows the oneness of all of us.

And you said

I

wanted to do something to help people.

And I wanna say that we are so caught up in our lives

at

the moment.

We're so caught

up

in making sure that we're okay and everything's happening for us. And you know, it's all very

focused on us. Neptune is actually saying

you've gotta actually start to. Recognize your life outside of your immediate needs. You've gotta actually

see people

outside of you and be

able to

be a conduit of some kind of love and help and assistance and caring for other

people as well.

Saturn-Neptune Conjunctions
—

Marc: Can I give you

a very, very brief example of what happened to me the last time these two

came together?

the last time these two came? They come together every [00:27:00] 36 years. Okay. The last time they came together was in

1989,

Amanda: they, you're

talking about Saturn and

Neptune?

Marc: Saturn Neptune, yeah. Saturn and Neptune come together every

36 years.

They have a stenotic cycle

36 years. Okay.

And so, it was

happening at my satin return at

the same time,

so that gets thrown

in too. But Neptune and Satin came together at between 10 degrees and 12 degrees of Capricorn in 1989.

And they squared my moon

and my satin squares my moon

as well. My mum passed

around that time and my younger brother and sister, there's quite a big gap in age between us.

My

younger brother and sister were still going through high school.

I was a

young actor at

the time. In my twenties I was acting and living a very self concerned, very self-involved kind of life. Just

me,

me, me, me, me,

me, me. And then this

particular transit happened to

me

and

my

younger brother and

sister.

Didn't have, my

stepfather had left. He'd gone. He was an [00:28:00] alcoholic.

He couldn't

look after, so my

younger brother and sister didn't have anyone to look after them to get them through school.

I put my hand up and I said,

I'll do it.

So I moved into the family

home, put my acting

on

the

back burner, still doing a little bit, but not

much

to

GMT20260105-230525_Recording_avo_1280x720: to

Marc: live with them

and get them through school.

And

what I got

from that

was. This was a time I really threw myself into

astrology big time as well, because my son is opposite my moon. And so

my

son's in the ninth.

So for me, this was huge on the level of me coming into a place of seeing my life

beyond myself,

seeing my life more

than just me.

My moon's in the third.

GMT20260105-230525_Recording_avo_1280x720: The

Marc: Third house is

siblings. You can't make

this stuff up,

can you?

I mean,

really and truly,

you

know? Hello?

Amanda: how literal it

Marc: A moon in the third house, so.

GMT20260105-230525_Recording_avo_1280x720: so yes.

Marc: So

I moved

in, looked after them,

did

my best with caring for [00:29:00] them, getting them through

school, still doing my own thing. But that sat Neptune

for me was that feeling

of

you are more, you, you, you, you need to venture.

You need to venture into who you really are.

And who you really are is much more loving, much more caring, much more

empathic, much more compassionate than the

person you are being right now. The person you are being

right now is also

self concerned and all very much about what part am I getting next?

And the universe was saying this more to you than that. And so. I went through that period of time

where I had to give

of myself,

but at the same time,

it didn't feel like I was giving. It felt very much like I was

learning so much about me. I went to another level of my spiritual understanding about my life and myself

and my astrology

became a big part of

my

life.

I started doing readings around this time

as well,

so

that's the last time that happened, and [00:30:00] so.

Feels, it feels

that there was something in everybody's life at the moment that

they feel in

a way

I

have to,

in some way, shape, or form. It doesn't have

to be full on. It doesn't have

to be, you know, it doesn't have to take over, but it has to feel a little bit like what I'm doing and where I want to go is gonna rub off on the planet in

a very, very positive way.

Other people are gonna benefit from what I love to do. As much as I'm

enjoying doing it. Okay.

so very much what you said, Amanda.

Amanda: I wanted to go back to something you said because you said, we'll know we're doing what we came here to do because it will feel good. And I wanted to see if you would differentiate between feeling

good.

and necessarily feeling pleasant or comfortable because I, my guess is when that happened, it felt good to step up for your [00:31:00] siblings.

But it probably also felt kind of bad and scary and, and kind of like you were losing in the moment because you were

having to let go of this thing that you

were obviously working toward.

So,

but, but like, deep down it felt good. Like deep down it felt right. And it felt like you knew this was

the

right thing to do, even though it might've been uncomfortable to go back into your parents' house

and become a dad when you're 20 years old to your, you know, all those things.

So maybe it, it's, it's not necessarily pleasant or comfortable, but there is that deep sense of peace that you're on the right track. Would you say that that's true and that we can

Marc: That's

Amanda: that as a barometer?

Resentment & Purpose
—

Marc: that's exactly how it was

because. There was a lot of times I went through resentment. There's a

lot of times going, why am I,

why, why am I doing this?

I, I kind of

went through the, why did I put my hand up, you know, because it was, it was challenging. They were teenagers. I had a brother and a sister.

My sister was

the youngest.

She was the only girl in a [00:32:00] family of five boys.

And you know, teenage girls. Hello.

Amanda: well, and plus she just lost her

mom.

Marc: Exactly.

Amanda: now they're grieving as well. I mean, yeah, That's a big deal.

Marc: Totally. So it,

it had, its,

it's had

its difficult moments. It really,

really did. But

there was something, there was something in me, there was something inside

of me that was speaking to me on the level of, of do you realize,

do you realize

the.

The amount of fresh water, you know, the cup, the amount of fresh water you are putting into a muddy lake, do you, do

you realize that

how much

you are

improving

the planet just

by this small kind of gesture of helping

somebody else?

Do you realize how important that is? That's

what kept on speaking to me, how, how important it was. Even though on the grand scheme of things, it felt like a relatively small thing to do. [00:33:00] But as far as I was getting, I was getting that this was major stuff for me.

I.

I don't wanna say comically, but there is

karma involved in that.

For me,

There really is

because if you look at my nodes and I'm doing the node, I'm doing a

node class for Astrology Hub in February, which I can't wait for,

but my nodes are very, are very much caught up in

having to. Having to think of others,

you know, and

having to do more for others. And so doing what I'm doing now and

you doing your stuff, you know, this is, this is perfect.

This is perfect for us.

So

even though I might have resented it in a way, there was something that overrode, that resentment, that feeling, or

that beautiful feeling. I was doing the right

thing for all the right reasons. Yeah. Yeah.

Amanda: So it doesn't have to

be grandiose.

It doesn't have to be public. It doesn't have to be something that everybody is

recognizing.

But you'll know, you'll [00:34:00] know that

you're on the right

track and you'll know you're

doing the the

thing. And I love, I love this question. What is mine to give? What, what is unique about me that I can give and, and that could be something in a moment, like you said, you, what was unique and yours to give in that moment was to step up and be a parental figure

for your,

nobody else could have done it the way you would do it, right?

Nobody else could have done it for them at that moment. So that was yours to give. Now what's yours to give looks different, but having that as a guiding question can be so helpful.

Early Degree Activations
—

Amanda: Mark. It's the third house thing for you in that story, siblings is, is very illuminating. And would you say that people can look to their own charts in terms of 2026 and where they might be asked to step up in a new way?

GMT20260105-230525_Recording_avo_1280x720: Mm-hmm.

Amanda: looking at where Saturn and Neptune are

Conjoining? Are they looking

at Uranus and Pluto in their charts? How do [00:35:00] they start to.

Decode that for themselves.

GMT20260105-230525_Recording_avo_1280x720: Well, planet

Marc: planets that are

in, in your natal chart that are in very early degrees of signs,

you know, the first handful of degrees

of signs are gonna get hit. They're gonna get hit by

one of those planets.

So if you've got the early

degrees

of cardinal signs. Gonna get hit

by Neptune and satin. Okay.

Early degrees of fixed signs are

gonna

get hit by Pluto and early degrees of the mutable

signs

are gonna get hit, hit by

Uranus

and not just not just planets. You can talk about your ascendant midheaven. You can talk about your angles as well. So. Those particular areas, anything in early degrees of, of signs and angles of early degrees, they're the ones that are

going to really get spoken to

loudly.

They're

the ones that,

that you're gonna really, if most of your planets are at the end of science, you don't have much in early degrees.

Most of

the planets at the end of

science,

I'm gonna say,

you're

not necessarily gonna [00:36:00] side swipe these.

You're not gonna necessarily duck them,

but maybe, maybe

they might not be as,

As full on

as people who are going to

experience them, you know, on a planet

GMT20260105-230525_Recording_avo_1280x720: or aspecting

Marc: or aspecting a planet. But then, you know, if you wanna go into

asteroids I know Gary's into the fixed stars,

you know?

He'd probably throw

a few fixed

stars in there, you know, all that

kind of stuff. It's gonna, I'm sure that there's gonna be an

asteroid or a fixed

star or a Black Moon Lilith or

GMT20260105-230525_Recording_avo_1280x720: or

Marc: something that's gonna get hit, or

even a midpoint.

GMT20260105-230525_Recording_avo_1280x720: You know, it

Marc: might land on a midpoint of yours.

you know, in your

Amanda: chart. we look at our chart, we look

at the degrees of our planetary placements, ascendant angles, and we can bring in some of the

fixed stars or

out asteroids things. And we're looking for anything from zero to what degrees,

Marc: I'd say zero

to five.

Amanda: zero to five degrees.

[00:37:00] And If you,

if those are the ones that are gonna be getting pinged

by all of this activity. Okay. That's

really

helpful.

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Nodes Change Signs
—

Amanda: And, and you just brought up the lunar nodes. And when you're an inner circle astrologer for the Pisces Lu [00:38:00] Nation, you're gonna be doing a masterclass on lunar nodes. So inner circle members, we have that to look forward

to.

I also know

there's

something

important about

the lunar nodes that you wanted to talk about in general for 2026.

So can we go to

that

next?

Marc: Sure, because they're changing sign. They're

gonna

be changing sign in August of this

year. So,

And the interesting thing is Jupiter is changing sign into the sign of the south node.

So the nodes travel backwards. They go round the chart backwards. They take 18.6 years

to do a full cycle,

So they

stay about a year and a half in every sign.

So you get a year and a

half's worth.

of the south node in every sign, the north node in every sign. Of course, they're opposite. They dance in opposition to each other.

So they're in Virgo at the moment

and have been

the south nodes in Virgo and the North

nodes in PIs. So I see the south node.

Transiting,

the transiting south node [00:39:00] acts very, very differently to the nodes in our chart, in our natal chart.

The nodes

in our natal chart are very much part of our soul story, and I'll go into that in the masterclass. But the transiting nodes are like, you

know, those electric

pool

cleaners,

you know, when you put into the pool and they go around the pool and they suck up all the, the leaves and all the debris in

the pool. That's the transiting self node.

The transiting self node is like an electric pool cleaner.

It's sucking up all the, the old stuff.

It's sucking up the stuff that's not working anymore.

It's sucking up the use, useless stuff, you know, rubbish,

in other words.

And so as it's transiting through Virgo, it's sucking up all your Virgo

rubbish.

And your Virgo rubbish is always gonna be around

stress.

It's always gonna be around. I've gotta work harder, I've gotta do more. I'm stressed, I'm anxious. So it's sucking

up all areas to do with that.

It's because the [00:40:00] north node is in Pisces and the north node is saying, chill out,

GMT20260105-230525_Recording_avo_1280x720: calm

Marc: down,

breathe, relax.

So the north node is

like a, it's like a, it's like a,

a search light.

You know how

when boats go out in the dark and

they've got their big light and they're going, that's a north

node. The north node is searching for the light, it's searching for the light. It wants to light something up, it wants to give

you a new version.

And

so

the south node is sucking up all the

old stuff, and now it's gonna be moving

from Virgo

to Leo.

Okay.

In August, we're gonna go through a, a change on the level

of

kind of being maybe on

ourselves, kind of

monitoring ourselves, micromanaging ourselves, and being

on our own case.

And then

we're gonna shift into the sign before,

because normally we, we travel the sign after, but it's gonna shift into

the sign [00:41:00] before,

so it's gonna do the pool cleaning on Leo.

It's gonna start sucking up

all areas where you could have been

almost the opposite to Virgo,

where Virgo is

very down on itself. I should be

better. I should be more. Leo has got this sense of entitle,

you know, when,

when it's not played well, it's a sense of entitlement, it's a sense of

superiority.

It's that sense of of

I'm better than you.

I deserve more than you.

And. I'm up here and you are down there, you know, so it's looking at all areas where we look down on people, where

we

might actually put ourselves on the throne

and make other people feel small.

It's gonna be looking at all

areas

where we think we deserve more.

You know,

because Aquarius is actually going, are you kidding

me?

Aquarius is actually going, don't you realize we're

all the same? We're all [00:42:00] one. We're all different. We're all unusual and we're all beautiful and blessed

because of who we are. Nobody is better than anybody else. Just because one person looks like this and one person

studies this

and one person worships

this, it makes

absolutely no difference.

We're all

the same. You know, we all

come from

the, you

know, we're all cut from the same cloth in the end, and

Leo

is that part of us that kind of

goes, well,

I look down on that kind of person, or, you know, I'm better

than that kind of person.

So you

might not think that.

It's funny how a

lot of people go, oh no, I'm I, I'm open to

everybody

and everything, but

there is a

part

in a lot of our natures. That actually go, oh no, I wouldn't do that

kind of job. That's for those people, you know,

Those people do that kind of job.

I wouldn't do that kind of job. You know, it's

that kind of

feeling

of

why wouldn't you do that kind of [00:43:00] job? Why do you think it's good for that person and not good for you?

You know?

It's that kind of sense of that

leonis Leo also goes down the road of it's a needy sign. When it's

not played well, it's a needy sign. See me, see me, recognize me. Here I am.

Notice me. I'm important and it's needy. It drags people in. It's kind of like that feeling of I need attention. And so the pool cleaner is actually going around cleaning up all areas where you have this insatiable need

to be

noticed.

Insatiable need

to be

seen.

GMT20260105-230525_Recording_avo_1280x720: Mm.

Marc: And it's dealing with that feeling of you don't have to, you don't have to be

approved of,

you don't have to be special

in other person's eyes. Aquarius is saying, just be you. Just

be 100% you. And if, if you are not [00:44:00] somebody's cup of tea, that's fine. That's a hundred percent fine.

Maybe you guys are not supposed to be together. You just have to be yourself, and that's when you start to collect the, the

people in your life who are right for you. Again, that, that

need,

I need to be, I

need people to approve of me. I

need people to love me. I need people to want to, to want me or see me.

The pool cleaner is

going to be

going around that part of your chart

for the next

year and a half,

and it's gonna be moving into that

particular

area, so.

It'll bring

up a lot of stuff. And Leo, when it works well, is

arguably

the most generous sign

of the Zodiac.

It truly is. When it works well, it's the, it's beautiful.

I,

I've got Leo friends who are

playing their Leo so, so beautifully. They're so generous. They give life. They walk into a room and they shine. They lift the

room up.

That feeling of being able to

be the

[00:45:00] sun. In your life and in other people's lives, you know that feeling of celebrating

yourself

and celebrating other people, Leo, when it works well, celebrates the personality in

another person, you know,

celebrates your personality.

You know,

I love that about Leo. When it works well,

it's a

happy sign. It's a, you know, it's a.

It's a sign that that gives of

it,

of,

of itself, you know,

just by being

itself.

And I want to actually say that that would be a

really, really

good way of cleaning up any of the old Leo and

starting the, the fresh pool of Leo with that kind

of energy.

Okay, so

let me just ask a clarifying question. When you're talking about the pool cleaner sucking up

the aspects of

the sign that it's

GMT20260105-230525_Recording_avo_1280x720: sign that it's in.

Amanda: in. You're mainly talking about the shadow aspects of that zodiac archetype. [00:46:00] Right. So, so we looked at Virgo first

'cause that's

where we've been and that was focused on stress.

Like where are we, you know, all anxious and

stressed out

and, and, and so that's what where the pool cleaner has been doing its work. The pool cleaner will then do its work starting in August for a year and a half. In the sign of Leo, and then the, the, the search light is gonna

be an Aquarius.

So we're gonna

be searching for ways that we can be our individual self, but not

for the

sake of just being that more for the sake of what can we give to our community and, and how can we, you know, make the world a better place like

we were

talking about before.

GMT20260105-230525_Recording_avo_1280x720: Yeah.

Amanda: So,

but what you're saying is that. The Leo aspects that are kind of in the shadow, or like you say, not as well played are the real egocentric. Look at me and I'm entitled, and I'm above these things. So what I'm hearing you say is [00:47:00] that we can be on the lookout for those aspects of ourselves that are active in any way, and that focusing on generosity.

In terms of

what can I give? Like, this has been a theme of this whole

podcast. Will

also help us not fall into the, the, the pool cleaner that's sucking those things. Right. I used to have, we, we had one of those, so I can see it so clearly in my mind, this little pool cleaner thing that would go around. I

I used

to love watching it.

So the, you know, be focusing on the, the more elevated aspects of a

Leo archetype. Will help us

to not fall

so

hard into those less mature aspects of a Leo archetype.

Marc: Totally. Totally. Yeah. And it's gonna be going

through the part of your, your, your own chart where Leo and Aquarius are.

It's gonna go be going through those houses. And it's gonna

hit planets along the way. So if you've got planets in Leo and Aquarius [00:48:00] or in other areas, that's gonna be making aspects.

Then it's gonna be bringing

up the those areas as

well. It's gonna be built

more specific. It's gonna be more specific with that.

See, the south node in

is always needing to be replanted. It's

always needed

to be done in a different way, in a new way

with the help of the north node, okay? And so.

as

the, as the,

as the, south node goes right around the chart, as I said, it takes 18.6 years to do that.

You

have

a taste. Of cleaning up every area of your chart

with the old stuff that you played out,

You know, it was stuff that

you played out before.

You know, in, probably in this lifetime, in, in this case, you

know that you've,

you know,

a pool collects.

You know, leaves, it collects all that kind

of thing.

it's a,

it's a, it's a cleaning

up act and the North note is always saying, wouldn't it be

good if you headed [00:49:00] in this direction,

in a

brand new way?

Do this, you know, actually do it. Do

it for

bringing it

in, bringing it in in a way where you are going to integrate it somehow.

And then

it's almost like transferring that back to the self node.

It's

a little bit like.

coming into, coming into Aquarius. You know, that feeling of.

GMT20260105-230525_Recording_avo_1280x720: of we

Marc: can all be individual, we can all be

different. We can all team together. We

can be,

you

know, a spoke in the, we can all be

spoke in the wheel for the sake of the wheel. You know, we can all, you know, pull our minds and we can all really benefit from what that has to

offer. Leo now actually goes.

No, it's not about me. It's not really about me and my needs and my need to be superior and my need to be seen and my need. It's not

about me.

It's about me being

able to use my personality and my creativity, and my light

and my shine [00:50:00] for the good of everything and

everyone. You know, my personality and the way I use my personality is allowing other people to be happy, and it's not about

me. I'm not going, oh, look at me, look at me, look at me. I'm doing it because I want you to feel the, to feel the joy and the, and the, the light that I'm emanating. I want you to feel that.

I want you to get that

So

Amanda: Oh, okay.

Marc: a.

GMT20260105-230525_Recording_avo_1280x720: That's,

Amanda: I mean, between the two things that you've covered, I mean, I'm, I'm putting the first thing in a broad category of the mid points and then the lunar nodes. It's like we have marching orders for

the entire

next two years. Like if, if we were to just focus on those things, it seems like only good things could come of it.

And it, like you said, it might not be, it might not be pleasant all the time. But the, but the fruits of it will [00:51:00] be bountiful.

Marc: Yeah.

Amanda: Yes. Okay.

Marc: for sure. For

Amanda: Mark, I am so happy you're gonna be

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really take this information and use it.

To, like Mark said in the very beginning, to have this be one of your best years ever.

And so this is

really an opportunity. I hope that you'll be there. And then Mark is gonna be with us in the inner circle, like I said, in for the Pisces Loo Nation. So more opportunities to continue learning from Mark.

And

Mark. You're just so

amazing. I love all the visuals. I mean, you gave some visuals today [00:52:00] that I don't, I don't think I'll ever forget. They're

so good and

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All right, so Mark, anything that you wanna leave us with?

Final Thoughts
—

Marc: Basically I would like everybody to start making inroads into

following, following a part of,

of them, like a

following their

vision, following a part of them that they've always

dreamed of or always imagined in some kind

of way.

Don't care

what

people are gonna say about it, [00:53:00] because if you put it out there, people are gonna go, oh, that's a bad idea, or what.

Don't even put it out there. You know,

don't allow it

to be contaminated

by another

person's opinions.

Come into a place where it feels really, really good for you.

And I wanna say, follow it knowing that this is meant for you. This is not, you know what I

mean?

This is not something out there that it's kind of like, oh, I'd like to have it.

And it's out there. It's kind of like, no, it's not out there. It's you. It's meant for you. This is a big, big part of what you've come onto the planet to be and to do. So it's not really out there. It's in here, and

you now just have to basically, you know, move in that direction and, and, and,

trust

it. And it feels good.

It feels good

when you're doing it. Yeah. So that's basically what I'd like

to, to

leave everyone.

Amanda: I love it.

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Amanda: Thank you so

much, mark.

I can't wait to talk to you more and to continue to dive into [00:54:00] all these energies and what they mean. And I'm telling you guys, if you

just take a few

things of what Mark said today, these can be your anchor points throughout the year to really focus on. And if we're all doing that.

Wow. I mean, this is an opportunity to really create beautiful things in the world that benefit the entire planet. So just do it. As you were speaking, I was like, I was hearing the Nike thing. Just do it. Just do it. This is the time, and we haven't been saying that every year. For sure.

There have

been many years where it's like, well,

we're still incubating, we're

still getting clear.

We're still catching the vision, we're still working things out. This,

this year feels different and the astrologers

are really beating on

this drum. So thank you

for being

curious. Thank you for seeking Thank. Thank you

for asking

the questions and for being open to listen to the conversations that we have here on this.

Platform, and I cannot wait to continue the conversation All throughout this year, we're gonna be here. We're gonna be here for you, [00:55:00] and we're so grateful to have that opportunity. All right, everybody,

mark. thank you. We'll see you

Marc: Thank you, Amanda. Thank you

so much for

having me.

Amanda: All right, and we'll catch you on the next episode. Take care everybody.

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