A collaboration between dream & reality w/ Christopher Renstrom
Neptune, Mercury and the Sun
This is your Horoscope Highlight for the week of March 13-19, 2023 with world-class astrologer, historian, and author of The Cosmic Calendar, Christopher Renstrom.
This week, Christopher discusses the planetary pileup in Pisces involving Neptune, Mercury and the Sun – all of which is squaring Mars which is on its way out of Gemini after a prolonged retrograde cycle. He breaks down the square aspect and the questions that an astrologer must ask in order to really understand a square. Then, he delves into the importance of imagination and vision, and the relationship between vision and illusion within the realm of Neptune.
Squares: What Are Planets Fighting Over?
Breaking Down Neptune
Breaking Down Mars in Gemini
Mars in Gemini Square Neptune in Pisces
Mercury Conjunct Neptune in Pisces
Who will be affected
What to Expect
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[00:00:31] Hello, my name is Christopher Renstrom and I’m your weekly horoscope columnist here on Astrology Hub. And this week I wanted to talk to you about the Mars Neptune Square on March 14th. Followed by a Mercury Neptune conjunction on March 16th, which then culminates with a mercury Mar square on March 17th. Now, this is particularly powerful because Mars comes out of its shadow period on this day.
Square Aspects: What are the Planets Fighting Over?
[00:01:02] So whenever we’re looking at a square, that is, if we’re looking at a square in the heavens by transit right now in the sky, or we’re looking at a square in an astrological chart, we always wanna ask one question and one question only.
[00:01:17] What are the planets fighting over? All right, what are the planets fighting about? And then we want to identify the two planets that are in conflict, because squares, of course, always describe a conflict in astrology. So when, for instance, we’re talking about. The first square, which is a Mars Neptune Square.
[00:01:36] What we wanna do is identify that one planet is Mars, the planet of what I want and what I’m willing to fight for. And the other planet. The other planet that’s squaring the Mars is Neptune, and that’s the planet of what. I yearn for. All right, so we have a planet which is fighting what for what I want.
[00:01:56] Okay. And then we have a planet, which is all about what I yearn for. So that’s the first thing that we wanna do when we look at an astrological square. The second thing, That we want to do is try to determine who’s in the stronger position. Okay. Is Mars in the stronger position by being in the Zodiac sign of Gemini, or is Neptune in the stronger position by being in the Zodiac sign of Pisces?
[00:02:22] The answer is Neptune. Neptune is in the stronger position because Neptune is the modern ruler of Pisces. Now, Neptune isn’t the only planet that rules Pisces. Pisces actually has two planetary rulers, Jupiter, the ancient ruler, and Neptune, the modern ruler.
[00:02:40] So in this particular configuration, What we’re going to do is look at the Neptune Mars Square.
[00:02:47] We’re going to see it as a struggle. You know, Mars wants something that it wants, and Neptune. Neptune is the planet of what I yearn for. So let’s begin with Neptune. It’s the stronger planet and it probably has something to say. Now when, we’re looking at the planet Neptune, we want to think in terms of realms.
[00:03:08] Okay? You always want to think in terms of realms when you’re thinking of the modern planets.
Breaking Down Neptune
[00:03:13] And Neptune’s realm is the realm of the imagination. Neptune’s. Realm is really the realm of dreams and vision. But I wanna make a distinction here.
[00:03:24] The dreams that we’re talking about when we’re talking about the planet, Neptune are not the dream that you had the night before.
[00:03:31] Okay? The dream that you had the night before where you wake up and you’re like, I think I was flying around in the air, but. Then at the same time, something, okay, that is a moon or a lunar dream. That’s a dream that you have in your sleep, that you wake up maybe feeling a bit bewildered and befuddled over and you’re trying to piece back together.
[00:03:51] And it’s very quickly evaporating and you just sort of yawn and go on with your day. And that’s kind of it for the dream that you had the night before, unless you keep a dream journal. So, so those sorts of dreams are dreams that are ruled by the. The dream that, Neptune rules over is a vision.
[00:04:10] Okay? It’s a vision that you have of yourself. It’s a vision that you have of the world. It’s a vision that you have of life. It’s not a worldview. So it’s not going to be fed by religious beliefs or political convictions. It’s a vision. It’s a vision of the way that things could be. And visions are extraordinarily beautiful things because if we didn’t have a vision, well, a vision is what allows us to take the life that we’re living and to sort of reconfigure it and reenvision it in a way that’s d.
[00:04:47] From what we are currently living. If we didn’t have a vision of the way that things could be, we would simply accept life as the circumstances that are handed to us and things that we have to contend with, and we wouldn’t look any further past our next to-do list. Okay, so a vision. A vision is something that’s inspiring.
[00:05:08] A vision is something that, you know, wouldn’t it be wonderful if I could do this? Wouldn’t it be wonderful? If the world was like this, wouldn’t it be terrific if, you know this could happen? So a vision is something that you hold in your mind. Vision that’s inspirational. Okay, let’s talk about, Martin Luther King Jrs. I Have a Dream speech. All right now. I have a dream speech, that Martin Luther King Jr. Gave on, the steps of, of the Washington Monument is one of the most, extraordinary, pieces of oratory, really one of the most extraordinary pieces of literature in the history of the United States of America.
[00:05:50] It was so powerful and it was so inspiring and it drew so many people to Washington, to listen to him that. And he, and he painted this vision of what the future could be for African Americans who were fighting for their, civil rights. And, and he was painting this vision of what this future could be.
[00:06:13] And many of the people in the crowd could have said, no, it can’t be, no. Such a thing is, is impossible. That’s, you know. But no, they had gathered there to hear, This future could be. And, and, and when they heard it, they felt themselves. They saw themselves in that future. They, they felt their souls respond to the speech and, and it was this extraordinary moment in the history of the United States of America.
[00:06:40] So, so this vision, That Martin Luther King Jr. Had was something that guided him, and it’s something that inspired him, and it’s something that he turned around and shared with everyone else. I have a dream. It wasn’t a dream that he had had the night before where he rolled over in bed and said, Coretta, I had this dream.
[00:06:57] No, he had this dream, this extraordinary, expansive dream of what the future could be. And it’s something that enlivened the hearts and the minds and souls of everyone who heard it. And if you can still hear. It still has that same effect to this.
[00:07:13] But Neptune, Neptune, the planet of vision okay. Is also the planet of illusion.
[00:07:21] Okay? A lot of times we talk about, disillusionment, when we talk about Neptune being powerful in a, in a horoscope. Uh, we can say that there’s an illusion. You’re, you’re, you’re under this illusion or this false impression, and then, and then you’re going to get disillusioned. You know, the neptune’s often portrayed as a bubble that will eventually burst.
[00:07:40] So there’s the vision, the sweeping vision of Neptune that inspires us. To be better than we are. And then there’s the elusory aspects of Neptune, that, that lead us astray, that le, that lead us up the garden path and leaves us with the question where it’s hard to tell if we’re following a vision in our life or if we’re following a mirage deeper and deeper into the desert.
[00:08:05] And all we’re going to end up with is a bunch of sand in our. This sort of idea, comes to, focus. When we remember the story of the, I Have a Dream speech that was given, uh, there was this extraordinary speech, extraordinary reception. And on the following day, on the following day, Martin Luther King Jr.
[00:08:29] Was assassinated. It was one of the great tragedies of, of our nation, and it also left this incredible hole where this, this, this burning vision used to be. And so it left people in the civil rights movement wondering, is it over? Does the dream die with Martin? Was the whole thing an illusion? Were we fools to believe this?
[00:09:02] You know? And so this became a very pertinent, a very resonant question. There were some people who were like, oh no, we pick up the banner and we keep on going. But as the years passed, as the decades passed, the question. Grew more and more. Was that it, you know, was uh, did we reach a certain point and was that going to be it?
[00:09:24] So this is where Neptune can be so inspiring. You know, it can lead you to make sacrifices. For this vision that you have, Martin Luther King Jr. Made the most supreme sacrifice that you could make. He sacrificed his life, he laid down his life, you know, for, for this future that he was, that he was speaking about, for African Americans, but for all Americans.
[00:09:49] At the same time, I mean, he’s really the first person since, the Declaration of Independence that reshaped the American vision so dramatically and so profoundly, and, and then laid low by an assassin’s bullet leaving the question, is that it? You know, did it go up and smoke? Um, do we collapse under the weight of.
[00:10:12] Neptune is a very complex planet, okay? Because it doesn’t promise anything, okay? This is why the earth sciences always have a problem with Neptune, okay? It doesn’t promise anything. It, it, it, it, it, it, it shows the way that things could be, and it pulls not on your heartstrings, but it pulls on your yearn.
[00:10:35] Okay, and I want you to think about that word yearn. Neptune is the planet of what I yearn for. It’s not what I want. It’s not what I dream of. It’s not what I crave. It’s not what you know I demand, it’s what I yearn for. Think of the words yearn for four. There’s a kind of long. in that phrase, what I yearn for, there’s a kind of, um, melancholy, you know, there’s a kind, there’s a.
[00:11:07] And there’s a wondering if that could ever possibly be fulfilled in this world or in this way, or in these life circumstances that I find myself in. What I yearn for. What I yearn for. This is so neptunian and what Neptune introduces, and I think one of the reasons why it can be so problematic for many people is the idea of suscept.
[00:11:34] Okay. Really the idea of susceptibility, it introduces the idea of being susceptible. Now, when I talk about being susceptible, that’s not being vo vulnerable. Okay. Being susceptible is being likely to be harmed, being likely to be influenced. This is susceptible. Most of us think of susceptible. Being gullible.
[00:12:00] Or being fooled. Or being deceived. And so that’s why a lot of times when people hear Neptune, they’re like, oh. . I want nothing to do with Neptune. I’m no fool. I’m not, I’m not wearing, I’m not sporting rose colored glasses. You know, I’m not, you know, easily, uh, swayed or influenced by someone’s loquacious words.
[00:12:19] Okay? So, so, so we resist, you know, Neptune, we, we resist this idea of being susceptible, but Neptune still infuses or gives off in its energy that . Suscept.
Breaking Down Mars in Gemini
[00:12:34] Being fool. Is a Gemini? No, no. All right. Being fooled is a Gemini. No, no. Gemini is, ruled by the planet Mercury. Mercury is the planet of the mind. Mercury is also the planet of Fleet. Feet and Fast Hands. Okay. So, so Mercury does everything very quickly. It processes things on the go, and it’s very much about using information, information that you can use to get to where you’re going.
[00:13:02] The whole idea of how do I get there from here? Very Mercury notion. It’s a very mercury idea. Mercury, as we know, is also a planet that’s, transactional. It’s associated to buying and selling, and it’s a planet that delights in games. Okay. Um, and, and, and, and it loves a good battle of the wits. It loves, um, a good game where, you know, you’re, you’re, you’re playing the cards or you’re rolling the dice, you know, it’s this love.
[00:13:30] Play, it’s this love of play, that, that is so, mercurial. And so this is, this is very interactive. It’s very moment to moment and it’s very quick. Um, and it’s the mind. It’s a very quick thinking mind. This, this mercury, this, this mercury that rules Gemini and also rules the Zodiac sign, Virgo. Quick thinking.
[00:13:54] Clever and shrewd. All right, so when we go ahead and we put Mars in the Zodiac sign of Gemini, what do you get? Well, I’m sure some of you out there was like, someone is really argumentative, you know, and, and Yes. Mars in, in, in Gemini can be very argumentative but Mars in Gemini, that placement.
[00:14:15] That, that combat feeling of Mars that’s connected to words Mars and Gemini likes to question. It likes to argue, of course, but it loves a good debate. Okay. So Mars loves a good debate. Especially, I mean, Mars loves a good debate when it is. In the Zodiac sign of Gemini. So it wants to sort of like go at someone and it wants the other person to go at them.
[00:14:38] And, you know, they wanna hurl stats and facts and, and examples and, and, and allegories and metaphors and all these. Sorts of things at one another. Okay. In a sort of like verbal food fight, okay? This is Mars and Gemini. It delights in, in, in these sorts of provocative arguments that may bring insight and cause one to sort of rethink and then Perry or come back with another insight or, or incisive comment.
[00:15:06] Mars in Gemini is basically for the sake of argument placement. So, so Mars and Gemini also has this, well, for the sake of argument. Okay. And, and, and it will, it will roll out. It’s, it’s, it’s, it’s it’s, scenario or it’s line of questioning or, or it’s, it’s line of associations. And, and, and it will set up for the sake of argument.
[00:15:33] And what I like about that phrase, Mars and Gemini, for the sake of argument, Is that it also combines in that phrase, if you think of it for the sake of argument, it’s kind of saying, this isn’t my position. Okay this isn’t what I believe. These might not even be my words actually. These aren’t my words.
[00:15:54] All of this comes under. For the sake of argument. Okay. They might be my words, or it might be like what someone could think, what someone could believe, what conclusion someone could arrive at if going down this particular tangent. Okay. Because it’s all done. For the sake of argument. So there’s a removal in there.
[00:16:16] Okay. It’s not being personalized. There’s, there’s a removal and, Gemini loves that. Gemini is always working out. Its, its ins and outs, all mutable signs. Okay. Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius, Pisces, they’re all working out. They’re exit strategies. You know, how do I get out of this situation? Where’s the loophole?
[00:16:39] You know, how did I phrase something so that it’s not going to be completely attached or connected to me? Well, that’s actually more Gemini in particular. Okay, so it’s so, so, so the mutable sign is always working out. It’s variable. Positions. So, so with a Mars and Gemini, there can be a sort of poking holes in the argument type of thing.
[00:17:02] But again, don’t take it personally because it was for the sake of argument, it was in order to exercise our minds and, and, and use all those words that we read about in the dictionary the other, other night and sort of like use them in, in verbal FY cuffs. Okay. And, and this is something that Mars and Gemini, uh, delights.
Mars in Gemini Square Neptune in Pisces
[00:17:21] Now when Mars and Gemini forms a square to Neptune in Pisces. All right. And we’ve already determined that Neptune is the stronger planet because it rules the Zodiac sign of Pisces. It’s at home in Pisces. All right. Mars falls under the spell of nep. Okay. Think of hypnosis. Think of someone being glamored, like in one of those magician movies or something like that.
[00:17:49] Mars, Mars falls under the spell of Neptune.
[00:17:53] It’s, it, it, it, it’s, it’s being seduced. It’s being, moved in some way. Maybe it’s, it’s, I’m thinking of one of those hyp old hypnotist movies. You are sleepy. You are very, very sleepy. Your eyelids are becoming heavier, you know, and Mars is like, No, no. I must fight off this influence.
[00:18:12] I must fight off this influence. No, no. I will not be hypnotized. Okay, so this is the struggle, okay. Of Mars and Gemini squaring Neptune in, in Pisces. It’s like, you’re, you’re sleepy. I, I’m not sleepy. I, I must resist mentally. Okay. So there’s a struggle and, and, and the struggle really comes for a struggle of consciousness.
[00:18:32] You know, I don’t want to go into the unconscious realm, which. Uh, Neptune. I wanna stay in the conscious realm, which is Gemini. You know, I want, I, I, I want my words, I want my wits, I want my hands, you know, I don’t want to be drawn under, uh, into, into this realm.
[00:18:48] And in addition to that, in addition to that, Mars and Gemini doesn’t want to be seen as weak-minded. It doesn’t want to be seen as indecisive, dazed, or confused. So these are the things that Mars and Gemini is struggling against. It doesn’t wanna be taken in, it doesn’t wanna be fooled, it doesn’t want to be weak-minded.
[00:19:09] It doesn’t want to be indecisive. It’d rather make a decision than not make a decision. It doesn’t want to be dazed or meandering in, its in its thoughts. And this can either be a receptive place where the Mars and Gemini might be open to influences that it doesn’t understand or, or it can be a very dangerous place because the Mars and Gemini is going to strike out.
[00:19:32] and fight back, you know, to, to ward off that influence. So this is something you also want to be very careful of. You know, are you winning someone over to that side of the argument, or is that person you know going to resist and become even more resistant? This is the struggle.
Mercury Conjunct Neptune in Pisces
[00:19:49] Now, the next piece of the puzzle of what we’re looking at this week is Mercury conjoining Neptune on March 16th.
[00:19:59] Now, this is something that I want you to follow. Okay. We’ve already established that Mars is in the Zodiac sign of Gemini, and that Neptune is in Pisces and Neptune is stronger. All right? Uh, because, um, Neptune is the, uh, is the modern ruler of the Zodiac sign of Pisces. Now we have Mercury conjoining the sun, uh, actually Mercury is near the sun, but Mercury’s conjoining, NEPT.
[00:20:22] Conjunction Mercury is in the same place in the sky as Neptune is in the Zodiac sign of Pisces on March 16th. Okay, and this is interesting for a couple of different reasons. Mars and Mercury are both connected to the mind. Okay? These are, these are planets that are actually both connected to the mind.
[00:20:42] Mars is connected to the mind because Mars rules Aries and Aries rules. The head , you know, and Mercury is connected to the mind because Mercury is the planet of what I think. All right? So, so there’s already a mental connection that that exists between the two. But let me backtrack here. We have Mercury conjunct Neptune in Pisces.
[00:21:02] Okay, so not only does that make Mercury the way of thinking foggy-headed and meandering full of mixed messages and associative ideas and not really knowing what to do of it. I mean, mercury, if it’s conjunct, Pisces is clearly under the spell of Pisces. Right? But Mercury also rules Gemini, which is the Zodiac sign that Mars is.
[00:21:28] Okay. So that actually makes the square even more powerful coming from the Neptune part. All right. And so, this mercury rules Mars in Gemini. Okay? But it’s placed back under the ray of Neptune. That’s a little bit much to digest. So let me break it down here. Okay. You’re, think, think of a square.
[00:21:49] It’s a fight. Imagine that you’re fighting with one parent. Okay. Take a flashback to childhood. Okay. Or adolescence. And you’re fighting with a parent and you’re like, you don’t understand me. And the parent’s like, well, you know, you’re not gonna be able to go out tonight because you didn’t do your chores.
[00:22:06] I’m a free person. I, whatever. Okay? We can all re rewind those famous moments of our youth. But anyway, um, you know, you’re fighting with a parent and so you go to the other parent. I used to do this a lot as a kid. Okay? You go to the other parent who’s out of earshot and had no idea that you were fighting with that parent, and you plead that case to, to the other parent, and that other parent says to you, oh, okay, well that sounds reasonable.
[00:22:34] Why not? Okay, so, so then you’re like, oh, good. I got what I was going for. Parent, um, B. Okay. The one who said, well, that sounds reasonable, why not? Goes and meets with parent A. Okay. . And they have a discussion and parent B realizes that they were kind of like taken in. And uh, that. , actually, parent A had a pretty good reason and parent B is now going to back them up and, and they’re both going to like sit down with you and tell you that this is what the decision is.
[00:23:06] Okay. So, so that’s kind of like how this planetary alignment works. Um, this is also reminiscent of those familial betrayals that led to so many therapy sessions in your adulthood. But anyway. What I’m saying here is that there may be this, this feeling of having won the fight, but it’s going to slip back down into the area of, of, of Neptune.
[00:23:34] It’s ultimately going to wind up with Neptune and Neptune and Pisces.
Who Will Be Affected
[00:23:40] So this is going to affect, uh, everyone, who has a planet around 25 degrees Gemini. Okay? So if you’ve got your son at 25 Gemini, it’s going to affect you. If you’ve got your moon at 25 Gemini, it’s going to impact, you’re as descendant at 25 Gemini.
[00:23:57] It’s going to impact you, and we could perhaps, if you’re in a playful mood, uh, expand that to 25 Virgo. 25 Sagittarius and 25 Pisces. Why did I do that? I took the 25th degree of each of the mutable signs. Okay, the, which means that they’re either conjunction squares or oppositions.
What to Expect
[00:24:18] Now, what’s this mean?
[00:24:21] What’s this the, what’s this talking about? Neptune and Pisces will always be the, my. Okay. It will always be not an aha Christie mystery where you have to like, solve the riddle, um, or the murder. Colonel Mustard, living room Candlestick. Okay. No, it’s not that. Neptune in Pisces will always be the mystery, something that’s unexplained.
[00:24:47] Okay. Um, and it’s always going to be connected to something you yearn for. It’s going to pull on your hopes and on your dreams. Okay? And whenever. There is a tidal pole, a cosmic tial pole on our hopes and our dreams. We want to believe, we want to hope everyone in the world can try to talk us out of it, but we, we, we really want to hope and pray and believe these, these, these are all connected to Neptune.
[00:25:23] Another way to think of the square is Mars and Gemini is really kind of like doubting Thomas, if you’re familiar with that, story from the New Testament. Um, after, uh, uh, it’s been reported that, Christ has risen and, and, and he’s walking among the, the apostles again. An impossible thing to imagine after a crucifixion.
[00:25:45] there’s all these different sightings. They’re kind of like U F O sightings or something, but they’re all these different sightings of Christ. Some people see him, some people don’t, and word gets around. Okay? And one of the people who hears this. , and it’s very Gemini. It’s very hearsay. It’s Thomas , you know, he, he hears this, but he hasn’t seen this, you know?
[00:26:06] And finally there’s an event in which Jesus appears to his apostles and Thomas sees, and the apostles turn to Thomas with great, um, confidence and reverence for this, for this sacred moment. And say, you know, do you believe now, you know, of course here he is. Our savior has returned. Do you believe now, and Thomas is.
[00:26:27] No. No, I don’t. Okay. Um, I, I, I, I don’t trust what I’m seeing. I don’t trust it. I, I want to believe it so badly, but I don’t trust. What I am seeing, and the apostles are like, oh, Thomas, how could you not trust? What a spoiler. Oh, you know, we should have known. Okay. And, and, and Jesus in that moment says, Thomas, come forward.
[00:26:50] And so Thomas does, and, uh, Jesus holds out his, his hands and, and there on his hands are the nail marks, you know, and Thomas says, Can I touch them? And Jesus says, go ahead. And so Thomas goes and puts his finger in each one of the wounds on the hands and of the feet. And because I guess Thomas was a Virgo or something, he also had to inspect the sphere of wound on the side.
[00:27:19] So anyway, so doubting Thomas, this is where we get the phrase, doubting Thomas. Is moved by this experience. Okay. And, and, and, and joins his brothers in saying, yes, yes, yes. This is a miracle. I can’t believe it. I wouldn’t have known it unless, you know, I had put my, uh, fingers in, in the different and various wounds.
[00:27:42] So, so it is the nature of Mars and Gemini to be a doubting Thomas. Okay. We talked about it, wanting to take the other side of an argument or a debate or something like that, but it’s the nature of a Mars and Gemini to be a doubting Thomas, you know, and where the other apostles were like, Thomas, bad Thomas.
[00:28:00] Don’t doubt, you know, Jesus is like, come forward and doubt, come forward and doubt. You know, let me reveal, let me reveal. in your doubts. Okay. And so, so this is kind of like where you may feel like you are on the March 17th. Um, I want you to ask yourself, was there a vision. Hope, a dream, a yearning for that you had in October that collapsed in your life.
[00:28:35] Was there, was there a vision last October that collapsed in your life and as it left you going round in circles like a rudderless ship since Okay. Or. or last October, did you poke holes in something that you regret having poked holes in? And if you’re, and, and are you perhaps wondering nowadays, is there any way to put it back together?
[00:29:05] Okay, so one is. You know, did I, you know, did I experience a collapse of a vision or a dream that’s left me going in circles like a rudderless ship, or did I poke holes in something and I poked holes in something? So I consistently, and with great determination that it collapsed, and I’m wondering, Did I mess it up?
[00:29:28] And is there any way of putting this back together again? These might be two, dilemmas, that, that you may be, facing a vision. You know, like for instance, the vision that Martin Luther King Jr. Was talking about. I have a dream. A vision is not an hallucination or a mirage. A vision has to stand. to the poking.
[00:29:54] Okay. It has to stand up to the poking. Um, and you’re, you’re poking. Isn’t going to be answered in the moment. Okay. There’s a, there’s a vision of, let’s, let’s switch contexts. There’s a vision of the United States of America, um, and what the United States of America could be. Well, that vision of the United States of America has to stand up to the poking.
[00:30:19] It just can’t be bought wholesale. Oh, this is a great vision of the United States of America. ERBs un, you know, no, it has to stand up to the poking. It has to stand up to, um, the difficulty it has in becoming in, in, in undergoing a transition into reality. Um, conversely, on the other side, the poking has to be in service to something constructive.
[00:30:46] Okay. In other words, you can’t just let that Mars and Gemini go and poke things just for the sake of poking things. Okay? It has to be in service to something constructive. Okay? Either, and, and, and sometimes constructive is exposing something as a sham that’s constructive, you know? But sometimes constructive is, did you think of that?
[00:31:08] Or what if we changed this? Or how about that as a possibility? The natural. Questioning that Mercury ruled signs do that. Get people to sort of think of things in ways that they didn’t think of them before. So it’s not, the poking isn’t just. Contrary and nihilistic. The poking is done in service of trying a different way, experimenting with an alternative root.
[00:31:33] Okay. Um, and or even seeing whether this really has the strength of convictions or the strength of appeal. Or strength of inspiration. A square, a square between planets is naturally combative. It’s naturally combative because all squares are of the nature of Mars. Mars is named after the Roman God of war.
[00:31:54] Mars is combative. A square between planets is by nature, combative, but it can also. Collaborative. Hmm. It can also be collaborative and in the spirit of collaboration. If you enter into that spirit of collaboration, it opens your mind and it opens your heart, and it opens your soul to creating something that’s truly special and inspir.