Heather Ensworth on the Yuga Shift, Saturn–Neptune at 0° Aries & Human Evolution

 

 

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  • 01:39 – The end of the Kali Yuga
  • 10:51 – 3iAtlas
  • 21:17 – Defining ancient feminine wisdom
  • 21:49 – Making sense of suffering
  • 30:42 – What is expanded consciousness?
  • 41:24 – The 7-year timeframe

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Heather Ensworth, Ph.D., is an internationally known astrologer and clinical psychologist with over 30 years of experience. In addition, she is a shamanic practitioner and has facilitated sacred circles for more than 20 years. She is the author of Astrological Ages and the Galactic Center and  co-author of two books From Trauma to Freedom: One Woman’s Journey and a Holistic Guide for Healing as well as Higher Vibrational Living: Through Astrology, Essential Oils and Chinese Medicine. She has a youtube channel focused on sharing astrological  information about this time of transition and transformation on the planet and for supporting creative Aquarian innovators to help us move into new more balanced ways of being. She also is committed to exploring and teaching ancient wisdom and healing practices for our own evolution and healing and the healing of the Earth.

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“This is a time when we’re capable of making a quantum leap into a whole new way of being.” – Heather Ensworth

 

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[00:00:00] Hello, friends. I am so excited to share today's episode with you. We have with us Heather Unsworth, who I was first introduced to through Pam Gregory. She's an incredible. Astrologer, but so much more than that. She has her PhD in clinical psychology. She has rich Shamanic, , training and experience. She's the author of five different books.

And she is just an incredible human being today's episode is very much like. A journey. So what I wanna do is welcome you to just sit back and really prepare yourself to have your mind blown. We're gonna be covering some specific things like the yuga cycles we're gonna talk about three I Atlas and the precision with which it has moved through our solar system. The significance of that and what that means. We're gonna be talking about the shifting of consciousness that [00:01:00] is happening right now.

There's a lot of territory that will be covered and I just again, wanna invite you to sit back, relax, relax yourself so that you can receive, and I really cannot wait to share it with you. So, Heather, welcome to the Astrology Hub Podcast. We are so happy to have you here with us today,

Oh, thank you, Amanda. It's great to be here and be a part of this conversation with you today.

Fantastic. All right, Heather, so let's start with that big picture perspective on 2026. What are you seeing? What do you feel is the importance of this year and what's the astrology kind of informing your perspective?

I think this is a

year

of transition and transformation, and I wanna set it in the context, actually, of the larger processional cycle because. That's an area of special specialization for me, and I think when we understand the [00:02:00] context of where we are in terms of the processional cycle and its relationship with the Hindu Yuga cycle, it helps

us understand

why 2025 and 2026 are such critical years of accelerated change and transformation.

So. The processional cycle is that 24,000 year cycle of the ages that we go through. That correlates with the 24,000 year Hindu Yuga cycle, which is that awareness that as we go through that 24,000 year cycle, we go through 12,000 years of ascending consciousness and 12,000 years of descending consciousness, and at the midpoint.

At the 12,000 year mark in the end of a processional cycle, in the beginning of a new one, we go through [00:03:00] dramatic

shifts, earth changes,

as well as shifts in our human consciousness, and we are at that critical point now, the ending of one processional cycle, the beginning of a new one. The ending of the age of Pisces movement into the age of Aquarius, and from the Hindu Yuga cycle perspective, we are coming out of the Kali Yuga period, which is the last 6,000 years, which in that Hindu Yuga cycle is our time of lowest consciousness.

That Kali Yuga period ended March of 2025, according to Bipo Dev Misra, who's done profound work on the Hindu Yuga cycle in his book Yuga Shift. So this is such a dramatic [00:04:00] time of change and shift in consciousness for us as humanity. So. As we're looking at the energies

of

2025 and now 2026, they're really showing how we're exiting those old paradigms and moving into higher consciousness.

So it's a profound time of shift.

It's incredible to consider the fact that we're alive right now.

I mean, so basically what you're saying is there's a 24,000 year

cycle.

We are right smack dab in the change from the last 24,000 year cycle to this new 24,000 year cycle.

We

are right at the point

of where it

was descending. So we like, we [00:05:00] all have experienced the end of the end of that descending period.

Yes,

And we're now gearing up to begin to experience the ascending period. My guess is that's a very slow

process.

Here's the interesting thing, it's, it's a shifting process through the processional cycle and the Hindu yuka cycle. If you think about

12,000

years of ascending consciousness and 12,000 years of descending consciousness, there are times of major shift at these 12,000 year markers and

less

so, but a major shift at the 6,000 year markers.

But in the book that, that I've written astrological ages in the galactic center that's coming out this march. Part of what I'm looking at is how this period of time that we're in now,

we're [00:06:00] capable

of an evolutionary leap in consciousness to get off the wheel. So that we're no longer in this journey of ascending and descending consciousness, but can move into higher consciousness, move into fifth dimensional ways of knowing and being

that then

allow us to expand our consciousness and stay in that heightened, expanded state of consciousness.

Heather, as you were speaking, I was seeing us moving from a circle to a spiral. Is it kind of that? Where we're still moving around, but now we're like, we're at a, our starting point is higher,

and

so we're sort of spiraling up. Is that how it's working and why now do we have a chance to accelerate the evolution of consciousness?

Did this happen at the last 24,000

shift

as [00:07:00] well?

These are great questions.

In terms of the first part, I, I think as we go through the processional cycle, it's always a spiraling process, uh, as we're in that evolutionary journey,

I think.

That more of what I think is possible at this time

is

part of what I've been really immersed in through my shamanic training is the understanding of the ancient medicine wheel, which is an incredibly powerful meditation practice that's known around the globe since ancient times and.

It's that understanding the medicine wheel is actually a sphere that holds the wholeness of all that is. And we walk the wheel and we connect to all the directions and the different elements and different energies. But the journey is always about coming to center. And when we're at the center.

[00:08:00] Of the medicine wheel,

we're in our wholeness.

We're in alignment with the earth and sky. We're aligned with our soul self. That infinite part of us that journeys through many lifetimes, but is a

part of

the infinity of cosmic consciousness. So you can think about our birth charts as a medicine

wheel.

I was just gonna ask you, how is the medicine wheel different than the Zoia wheel or, or the US being at the center of our chart?

It's

all the same. So when I'm working with people with their charts or I'm teaching astrology, part of our journey with our charts is understanding all these facets of ourselves,

but eventually coming to the center.

The wheel so that we can access any of those energies without being identified with them or controlled by them, then we're really in the wholeness of who we are.

So, and if you think about our galactic center as our source, we can come [00:09:00] to center.

And

Really open to that higher consciousness. Remember, our center chakra is our heart chakra that can connect us to unity consciousness, and I think

that at this

critical time we're being called into that evolutionary

leap.

A lot of

the ancient indigenous prophecies talk about this time as a time of incredible initiation and transformation. The Peruvian shamans that I studied with talked about this is the time where we're meant to become homo luminous beings of light. My dear friend Elizabeth Sartore, the evolution biologist, talks about how when a species is in a time of crisis, which we are as humanity, with the level of destruction that we've done to the environment and to each other.

She says, when a species

is at that crisis point, they're no longer making incremental change. They [00:10:00] make an evolutionary leap. So I think in so many ways we're being shown, this is a time when we're capable of making that quantum leap into a whole new way of being.

So this is the taking from the yuga cycles 20 25, 20 26, this critical transitional point. How do you see this reflected in the

astrology?

So this is, and Amanda, it's really interesting to me,

me. I,

this whole experience with Three Atlas has. Just helped me see more and more clearly how we are being so supported by the energies of the earth and sky to move through this time of transformation.

The synchronicity

of three I Atlas

and its movement through our solar system

is

[00:11:00] mind blowing.

Alright, my friends, we are just days away from the conjunction that astrologers on this platform have been talking about for years. At this point I'm talking about the Saturn Neptune conjunction that is happening at zero degrees of Aries. In order to help you understand how this is impacting you.

Personally, we have put together a free guide that you can [email protected] slash conjunction, and this is gonna help you understand where it's happening in your chart and what that means for you. So you can go there now, download that. We're also gonna put that link in the show notes. I hope you love it.

And now back to the episode.

So we exit the Ka yuga in March of 2025.

We discover three I Atlas

July of 2025.

I view three I Atlas as an interstellar being. A source of consciousness carrying high frequency energies [00:12:00] into our solar system coming in. Right. Just. Five degrees off the plane of the ecliptic

at this high speed moving through our solar system. I don't believe it's a comet. I think it's some kind of interstellar being that's very ancient, most likely billions of years old.

So I think it's holding the ancient wisdom of our cosmos. But what's extraordinary is it appears in our consciousness July

of 2025.

In the stars of

Ocus, which I see that constellation as a cosmic marker, that constellation I

see

in its connection to the Galactic Center. It

is

seen as the serpent

bearer holding the healer,

holding the serpent.

It is such a powerful symbol of the integration of the sacred masculine and sacred [00:13:00] feminine when you realize the serpent is the oldest known image of the great goddess. So it appears in the stars of the great healer saying It's time to remember who you are and come back in to balance, come back in to wholeness.

Then it systematically.

October 3rd

makes a pass by Mars just before a full moon. Then it makes its Parhelion with the sun at the end

of October.

Then November 3rd makes its pass by Venus just before a full moon.

Then

December 19th makes its closest pass to the earth on the day of the New Moon.

and

we'll make its pass by Jupiter in March,

just

before a new Moon.

I mean, the synchronization of that is extraordinary. But if you think about [00:14:00] this time of the Kali Yuga, our lowest level of consciousness began towards the end of the age of Taurus, then really hit its lowest point in the age of Aries.

And then continued

through the age of Pisces.

And really, if you look

at what got out of balance in the

Kalka, we've been in this patriarchal power over paradigm.

That if you go back into ancient times prior to the age of Aries, you don't see that kind of power over paradigm in ancient cultures. The advanced cultures knew how to live in harmony and balance in what

Rhianne, Isler would

call partnership cultures,

where there's a

balance of the genders and uh, um, an honoring of the diversity in the [00:15:00] community.

So we got out

of balance the end of age of Taurus through Aries age of Taurus, ruled by Venus, age of Aries ruled by Mars. We stayed out of balance in age of Pisces, traditional ruler Jupiter. It's as if three i Atlas is

I Atlas is. Seeding

this corrective. For those planets to help us heal and purge and clear what we've gotten out of balance, the ways we've gotten outta balance in this Ali Yuga period so that we can heal and now move into expanded consciousness.

What's

also extraordinary is this is just also amazing if.

It

really is.

If

you look at where it

entered our solar

system, it was in the stars of

cus.

Then it moved through and [00:16:00] Fucus is right above Scorpius. Then it moved through the stars of Libra through the stars of Virgo. It will move through the stars of Leo and

then exit.

If you look at the correlation

between the processional cycle

and the Hindu Yuga cycle,

the golden age. Begins in that 24,000 year cycle with the age of Scorpio or age of phe, UCUs, and then we start into the descending cycle in the age of Leo.

So it is

as if three I Atlas is saying, remember the wisdom of the ancient cultures when you were in your highest level of consciousness.

cus

Libra

Virgo. Now let's correct the out balanced paradigms with the sacred feminine Venus, the [00:17:00] sacred masculine Mars, what didn't get corrected in the age of Pisces, Jupiter. Let's bring those back into harmonic balance to support us in our transition.

Wow.

I

mean, the

synchronization and the level of sophistication

of the timing of this is really extraordinary. And this isn't

all of it.

It, it made its pass by Mars and Venus and then they went behind the beams of the sun. Into their superior conjunction with the sun, which

is the ending

of a six and a half year Mars venous sonata cycle.

They're then in their alchemical process of transformation in the beams of the sun that has now been activated by three eye atlas.

They will

not appear into view

again.

[00:18:00] Until Mars, Venus appears as an evening star the beginning of March, and then about a week later, Mars appears as a morning star just a few days before three I Atlas makes its pass by Jupiter.

So

I, I bet if we tried to do the mathematical likelihood of any of these things happening, I mean, the timing with the New Moon, the full moon, the timing with the. You know, with, with everything you just explained about being behind the beams and, and, and then reemerging, and then everything you also said about, uh, you know, where it entered and where it's exiting.

I mean, the mathematical probability of these things would be infinitesimal. Is that, is that the right word to use? Like, it, it, it is probably so unlikely it would be laughable and.

how are you seeing this show up in people's lives? Like what evidence [00:19:00] are you seeing of this potential correction to some of the places where we've gone off?

Where

are you

seeing it, maybe within yourself or within your clients or within the world? And is it unreasonable of me to even ask that question? Would we not be expecting to see these things yet? But how? What do you think the result of this is going to be?

That is such a great question, Amanda

and I do believe that

it is

activating profound shifts

in all of us psychologically and in the collective consciousness. And part of it is, and so many people in my community have

said they

felt an energetic shift. Three I Atlas came in and particularly made its passes by Mars and then

Venus and, and also

it made its pass by the earth just before the solstice, and it will make its pass by Jupiter just before the Equinox.

So again, another layer of.[00:20:00]

Synchronization.

But I think what it's doing, if you think about the timing of it activating Venus and Mars, which reflect the out of balanced paradigms of the sacred feminine and sacred masculine.

I think we'll really begin to feel and see more of the shifts when Venus and Mars emerge in March,

beginning

each beginning a new cycle. Because I think Venus begins her cycle in the evening star phase. That's a long story, but I think then they're gonna be showing new energies, new ways that we can experience those energies of Venus and Mars, and relationship and action, how we are connecting with each other individually and collectively.

I do know that, and I believe a major theme in 2026 is the return of the ancient sacred feminine [00:21:00] wisdom, and I am seeing a much more increased interest in that and activation of those energies coming back into our collective consciousness.

When you say ancient feminine wisdom, what are you referring to?

So part of what happened as we moved into the patriarchal period, very end of the age of Taurus into the age of Aries, is not only the suppression

of.

The sacred feminine wisdom, but our disconnection from the sacredness of the life around our disconnection from the sacredness So from my perspective, the sacred feminine wisdom is about what it means to live in right harmony

harmony

and balance

with all that is.[00:22:00]

With the cosmic order, with the natural order, with how we are in what the Peruvians would call ine, right? Reciprocity balance, relationship with each other. So I see the energy of Libra. As very associated with the ancient Egyptian understanding of

Maat.

Everything is meant to be in right relationship, right balance with

everything else.

How we are with each other, how we are with the waters of the earth, the plants, the animals, the stars. So the sacred. Feminine wisdom is we can come back into relationship and communion with all that is. We remember that everything is conscious

so that we can communicate with

the plants and the animals and the stars.

We are a part of that relationship again. When we got caught in the [00:23:00] patriarchal period, we got caught in the illusion of separation

and

the idealization of individuation. And then it disconnected us from each other, from the earth, and ultimately from our true selves.

So it's really exquisite how the energies of 2026 are guiding us step by step through this time of shift that we're in. And I think it is, for example, extraordinary that in a few weeks we'll have the conjunction of Neptune and Saturn at zero degrees of Aries, which everyone is talking about.

That is such a powerful conjunction, and the Sabian symbol for that degree. Is a woman rises out of the sea and a seal rises up and embraces her. If that isn't an exquisite symbol for the return of the sacred feminine wisdom, [00:24:00] and a reconnection with the sacredness of the life of the earth. It is just so powerfully reinforcing this shift that we're in to rebalance the sacred masculine and sacred feminine, to come back into wholeness, to come back into balance.

 

What

would you say

to.

People who are looking all

around

and looking at what's happening in the world and going, whoa. It seems like we're going the opposite direction from what you're saying, because we're getting more technological, we're getting further away from the earth. The wars are escalating. The, you know, the, the, the sense of separation from each other, like there's a loneliness epidemic.

You know, it's, it's, it's almost like

all.

It's like the opposite of what you just said if you were just looking at appearances. So what, what do you [00:25:00] say to that?

You

have a master's in psychology?

I'm a clinical

psychologist. I think we both know that if someone's in a

healing process,

they have to bring into awareness. The wounds from the past or what's out of balance, feel that work that consciously to clear it to move into new forms. Otherwise, they're just overriding what's really still unresolved

within them.

So part of what I see happening in the collective, it's. Tragic, and it's incredibly painful to witness, but we're seeing a massive purging. It's like all of the shadow

aspects of humanity

that have been playing out, but often beneath our conscious awareness, it's all in our faces. It's all up in [00:26:00] an extreme way, and I think that's both we as humanity are being called to see and clear these wounds from the past.

'cause I think the patriarchal period has been endless trauma

I think there are those who've really benefited. From the power over paradigms who are clinging to that last gasp of power in, in a very intense way. Look at how many countries around the world now have authoritarian leaders. So I

think we're seeing both.

But part of what's profound about understanding this context

of the Ali

Yuga coming to an end is that paradigm is

coming to an end.

It's up to us how messy that is and how turbulent that is, or how rapidly we see the patterns from the past purge that clear, that heal that to rapidly move into higher consciousness and new ways of [00:27:00] being.

Do you think that we'll be experiencing that within ourselves? Meaning like the microcosm of the macrocosm? Because I just wanna reflect even within the way that I care for my body. For example,

I

used to think. More is better. Like I need to work out harder. I need to restrict my eating more. I need to, and, and these are the only things that will give me the results that I want.

And I don't know if it's perimenopause or what, but I'm at, or if it's the changing of the you guys or you know what's happening. But I'm at this point in my life where it's like, actually

no.

There's

a subtlety,

there's a nuance, there's a listening there. Is it, it feels more like what you were describing.

Um, you know, in terms of the ancient feminine wisdom,

it

feels more like that kind of a approach, even with my own

physical body.

And I'm in the middle

of this

transition. So it's, I'm wondering if this is a [00:28:00] reflection of some of the things that could be happening for individuals as we recognize the patri patriarchal patterns that are still alive in us. Even, you know, subconsciously and, and not, you know, completely in our awareness, if they will start to show themselves through little things like what I'm talking about, you know, maybe dynamics within the relationships with the people in our lives, maybe with our children. You know, it's, we, we recognize, oh, my, my, authoritarian stance with my teenagers for example, isn't actually. The best way forward. A more mutually respective listening and honoring dynamic is actually gonna result in better outcomes and feel better for everybody. So, you know, so I'm just wondering if, if you,

if

that's just specific

nuance in my life because I'm where I'm at, or if that is a example of

the way

the patriarchal might

be falling apart

within each one of us as [00:29:00] individuals.

oh, that's beautifully said, Amanda. I mean, that is.

You're exactly right. We, we each are a microcosm of the macrocosm. And part of what I'm seeing is exactly what you're saying. So many more people are reconnecting with the wisdom of their bodies, the sacredness of our as opposed to how do I manage my body as

if it's,

how do I, you know, take my car in for service,

you know? So I think we're.

We're seeing that shift and I am stunned by, you know, having been in clinical psychology and doing that form of healing work across over 30 years.

Actually, and you probably know this from your own experience, there's just this, you know, you kind of would slog through the healing process and you know, I was in therapy for years trying to work through my early [00:30:00] issues and now what I'm seeing is stunning.

People are rapidly bringing into consciousness traumas from the past, feeling it, clearing it. In a very accelerated healing process. It's breathtaking and it's real,

and I think

it is reflecting that we're getting that

support. To move rapidly into clearing what we need to clear to be able to open to this expansion of consciousness, because we can't, as the Peruvian shamans would say, you can't open to that higher consciousness if you're carrying the density of all these unresolved issues from the past.

Heather, what is this expanded consciousness like from your perspective? What does that look like? What is that? What is, how does it change our daily experience of life? You know, because we talk about it a lot, but, but there's this, it's probably my, uh, [00:31:00] mercury,

my Capricorn

Mercury. I'm like, what?

That, that,

that patriarchal part of me maybe, but also what, like, what does it look like?

How's it gonna feel? What does it, what is the expression of this elevated consciousness? From your perspective, I know we, we kind of don't know, but we, but what do you, what are you intuit about it?

Well, before we got on the recording, we both talked about how much we love Barbara Hand Cloud.

Lau.

Her work,

I believe her book, alchemies of the Nine Dimensions,

Hmm.

is

showing us what will be unfolding that we're moving from that third dimensional way of being. We're now in the fourth dimensional energy that, that she describes is that realm of thought and emotion.

And part of what she talks about that's so profound in that book is when we move into the fifth dimension, we're [00:32:00] actually living from our hearts.

And look

at how much is out there now in the spiritual community about coming back to your heart, heart coherence. David Clements. Through your heart, you connect to source field intelligence.

So once we're in fifth dimensional heart-centered awareness

and ways of being,

as Barbara would say, then it opens you to all the higher

dimensions.

So I think that is the shift that we're in into that fifth dimensional heart-based way of being to no longer be controlled by our minds.

But

allow our brains to be in attunement with our hearts,

which

is the HeartMath Institute work that's so profound, to then connect to the wisdom of cosmic

consciousness,

to remember who we truly are, what we're capable [00:33:00] to come back into balance.

Do you think that the third dimension will no longer exist, or do you think that the third dimension will remain and there will be people who are just experiencing life from a fifth dimensional? Uh. Experience for, I can't find another word to describe it, but the third dimension is still there. I mean, how does this, do they coexist or is it a complete collapse of the third dimension and it's actually no longer here, and then we're all shifting into a fifth dimension, for example.

I believe

that 2025, March, 2025 to June, end of June, 2032. That is a critical seven year karmic choice point

for us as humanity.

That. My sense is we are being guided and exquisitely guided [00:34:00] by the energies of the earth. She's in her own transformational process by the energies of the sky in how we can heal and move into

this

higher consciousness

as a

collective consciousness.

And the Peruvian shamans would say, if enough of us

make

the shift. It creates that morphogenic field that can support the collective shifting. But I think we each have a choice, and I think we're already feeling and experiencing a dimensional divide on the planet.

Because so many people

are in an accelerated process of healing and coming more and more from the

heart

and relating to others in such a much more compassionate way, and we're seeing the turbulence of the third dimensional reality playing out writ large.

So I think we're in this seven year, and I can [00:35:00] tell you why I think it's that seven year timeframe. But I think that within that timeframe, we will know, are we making that transition together, which I think we're meant to, to be able to integrate third dimensional reality with that fifth dimensional consciousness.

Or will we experience a dimensional divide where there will be a new Earth and

people

in a fifth dimensional reality.

And

if that occurs, I think those in the third dimension will go through that crisis that happens every 12,000 And the last cataclysm 12,000 years ago was the younger dryas period of massive flooding

around

the globe.

The all the ancient prophecies about this timeframe are about a cataclysm of

fire.

[00:36:00] Through either a major solar flare or as bib who Deb Misra would say, probably Comet impacts because every 12,000 years we go through the heart of the Torrid Comet Swarm, where there are the largest

comets

that can potentially impact our earth, which happened 12,000 years ago.

That's what triggered the younger Dryas crisis. But

I don't think that's what we're meant to experience. I think we're meant to make this evolutionary leap

together

into higher consciousness to become multi-dimensional beings again,

But on Earth, right? I mean, I feel

on earth.

yeah, I feel so many of us have. Have this inner knowing that we're actually here to anchor the heavens on the earth this

time, that it's not about leaving. So, for example, I live in Hawaii and I, and I don't know if this is true, but it seems to me, so [00:37:00] when, when the, um, colonizers came to Hawaii and took over the islands not that long ago. 90% of the Hawaiian people died because of disease. And I was walking around my yard one day and I had this deep sense that they didn't actually leave. That they're here, but in another dimension and they are in paradise

and

it's has changed dramatically on land, but they're, they're still present. Okay.

That's

That's brilliant. Kayoni Hanlay, my dear friend and brother who lives on

Maui,

who comes from that ancient mu lineage related to ancient La Maria. He says very clearly, LA Maria is still here.

We just

can't see It, We're [00:38:00]

just can't

see it because it's in a it. This third dimensional reality became too dense for them to remain.

In this dimensional reality. So they're here in their higher dimensional way of

being,

but we can't see them.

We can't see them. And some of us can, or some of us can't, but like they're still present in

here and it's, and it's not a, a poet, a poetic, like they're literally here, you know? And I had that, so I'm just, but, but it seems to

me.

Like the, the part of our mission this time is to be able to stay here,

Yes,

so, so this is so fascinating because if that is true, then we wouldn't have that cataclysm because that cataclysm would impact our ability to live here,

exactly, and I see the cataclysm

as a cosmic

reset.

right? If that does happen, then that is what needed to happen and. [00:39:00] Right. Do over. Like I keep think it's like, okay, we're going to, we're gonna try again. It's another do over. I am just still amazed. I'm going to come back to what I said in the very beginning,

Heather, because when

you were talking about the Yugo cycle shift and as we're talking about this right now and the three I Atlas and the astrology, and I do wanna come back to why seven years? I didn't forget about that. Okay. Seven. That magic number, right?

But.

It's just amazing to me. Like I want all of you right now to just take a deep breath and consider how miraculous and amazing it is

that

you are here right now. I mean, it is just.

I

mean, again, talk about mathematical probabilities. It's very small.

The, the probability, right? So there is that, that again for me is more evidence [00:40:00] of purpose, of mission, of intent of, you know, that we actually came here for a reason at this time, and the fact that we all are interested in the

stars. W. W

why? You know, why, why this? Like for so many of us, almost like an obsession, why we are here, we are anchoring that and that celestial intelligence here on this planet.

And so every time you tune into a podcast episode, every time you look at your chart, every time you explore and you feel that call to go deeper, you're doing that

work.

And it's brilliant. So I just have to like have my, my mind is, you're blowing my mind, Heather, and I'm just sharing in real time some reflections that are coming through.

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So why seven years? 20, 25 to 2032.

Before I

go into that, I, I so love what you just said, Amanda, because I do believe so many of us have incarnated to

be here.

For this profound experience and my experience doing readings with people. 'cause I do readings through that lens of evolutionary astrology

and it's amazing to me

how many people I'm doing readings for have really had very.

Have had lives in ancient times, in pre [00:42:00] patriarchal times, bringing that wisdom back now to help ground it here, to support the

shift.

And this is such a profound time to be on the planet. And as you said, it's not about moving into higher consciousness and exiting the planet. It is about reuniting. The earth and sky and being here honoring the sacredness of

all of

The ancient cultures didn't see a separation between the earth and the sky.

The ancient

Sumerians called it heaven, earth.

Hmm.

Oh my God,

a part of a oneness,

I think

earth. Oh

my

that's what we're reuniting and

coming back

into that. Oneness with all that

Beautiful. Okay. So many things I could say to that. Let's go to the seven years,

[00:43:00] 20, 25, 20, 32.

So in my research, I've been absolutely fascinated

with

the

constellations cus and Orion, they're opposite each other in the sky.

I think the whole

controversy around we should have cus as part of our zodiac constellations. No, the ancient cultures understood that

cus and Orion

were cosmic markers.

Hmm.

So cus is

the great healer,

the serpent bearer standing above the galactic center. Really symbolizing coming back into alignment with source.

Okay. Literally above the Galactic

literally.

fucus is literally positioned above the Galactic Center in the sky. Okay.

So

if, and ancient cultures were very tuned in

it, it's

[00:44:00] extraordinary. They

were very tuned in to our view of the Galactic

Center, that dark rift in the

Milky Way. They were also very attuned to the processional cycle. In our modern Western cultures, we can't think more than a year ahead. They were

really thinking in terms of these 24,000 year

cycles.

So the dark rift in the Milky Way, which is our view of the Galactic Center, is right below the Constellation cus and between Sagittarius and Scorpius, the. Constellation of Sagittarius, the archer with the bow and arrow is literally pointing the arrow at the galactic center. And so cus is holding that wisdom of our connection to source the galactic center, the birth of all that is in our galaxy.

Orion is opposite that and what's extraordinary is.

The ancient

[00:45:00] cultures realized the declination of Orion shifts with the processional cycle. So for example, the ancient Egyptians were very aware that at their time of Zep Tepi, their beginning time, which was about 12,000 years ago, the stars of Orion were very low on the horizon.

For the

ancient Egyptians, if stars are on the horizon, they incarnate and move among us. So Orion, which is associated with Osiris, the enlightened one was right there connecting to the Earth. As we move through the 12,000 years of the descending cycle, Orion distances more and more from the Earth until it's now at its highest.

Declination

and

then it will begin to descend again.

So Orion right now is the furthest away from Earth that it it ever is,[00:46:00]

and now it's gonna start coming back closer to earth.

exactly. And Orion is both symbolic of Osirus

and

that whole story of Osirus and ISIS

and Osirus conflict with set

chaos.

Trying to

take

down Osirus and kill him, creating havoc. It's, it's all about how we get caught in our descending consciousness in this processional cycle. ISIS is associated with Sirius, our binary star

that takes us through the

processional cycle.

It's all encoded in that story, but what's amazing is Orion then represents both. Osirus and the son Horace, who reclaims that consciousness and sense of living in right harmony, right balance.

June,

2032, when Saturn [00:47:00] moves into conjunction with Uranus, they will literally be exactly in the Upraised arm of Orion, which for the ancient Egyptians meant.

Resurrection cosmic order triumphs So I see that as the threshold point where we are meant collectively to move through this tumultuous seven year period of healing, purging, transformation into being the new humans, the new

earth

being in this way of living in higher consciousness.

I

just recently watched

you and,

uh, Keoni ha le talking about the star lineages and so what you just said because, well,

you guys

aren't gonna know what I'm talking about unless you watch this. So maybe [00:48:00] go check out Heather's platform or Heather's YouTube channel

and

look for the last one between her and

Kayoni

Al Lei,

where they were talking about the six. Starlin ages and he, he was talking about the last one being crux and that the element associated with that is resurrection. And so this is, it just fascinating what you're saying. I, I mean there is so much here, Heather, and I'm just, I'm so grateful that you have devoted so much of your life to understanding some of these

bigger cycles.

As you were speaking, I was thinking, well, maybe. They took a longer term perspective in terms of time because either their experience of time was much different than ours and or because their lifespan. Was much longer than ours because I think when we think in terms of

a 24,000

years, it's like, well, that's so irrelevant.

Like I, I'm not gonna be here 24,000 [00:49:00] years. Right. So, so we don't really think in

terms of

that. But if a, if our lifespan, which was much longer, and B, if our experience of time was different, then maybe we

would

think in longer time spans.

Right.

Also, if you're a part of an ancient culture where it's much more, you're both living from a higher level of consciousness and you're much more living from that deep soul self-awareness, I'm an infinite being, having this finite experience.

They're able to think in

longer cycles

Yes.

we. When we get locked into this is the one life we have,

Oh my gosh, yes.

then we don't even think beyond the next 90 years if we're just here for 90 years.

Yeah.

Right. It's almost like the difference between like a body centric perspective of life and a soul

centered perspective of life.

well [00:50:00] said.

You have a book coming up in March, of course, perfectly timed with. Certain things. So can you a, tell us about your book and then also tell us about

the timing,

because I just think as astrology lovers, it's interesting to see how,

how you

chose a very specific moment in time to release the book to the world.

I.

Well, this is three I Atlas. The synchronization, again, is amazing to me because this book is a major revision of my free.

First book Finding Our Center, and this is astrological ages and the Galactic Center, ancient wisdom for this time of transition. So it's very much about this period of ending the Kali Yucca and this time of shift that we're in,

I really wanted it to

come out this past summer, and this is the first time I've worked with a publisher rather than self-publishing.

So if I

was

self-publishing it, it would've been out and I

kept.

Talking to them about, well, what's the timing gonna be? Well, it's gonna [00:51:00] be March It was gonna be March 10th. Now it's March 17th, the day after three. Eye Atlas makes its pass by Jupiter. If I were to pick timing to put this book out, that would be absolutely perfect.

But again, another synchronicity,

which I think that somehow how we're

that date. I thought you chose that date. That

is amazing.

Wow.

but I think

we are all being so guided by synchronicities now. It's, that's how we're being shown that we're being guided and supported and held through this transition

Well, I also think that that is

more.

To my earlier question of what will life look like? How will it change, you know, when we're living in that fifth dimension. I think that's, that's one very tangible intangible

that we will experience is more synchronicity, more evidence of that [00:52:00] guidance being so clear.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

Mm.

Well,

where can they get your book when it's out? Is that Amazon or?

It, it is already available on Amazon.

It's also easily

pre-ordered through Inner Traditions, which is the publisher.

We'll put those links in the, uh, show notes as well.

yeah.

Heather, this has been such

a pleasure.

Thank you so much. I just, uh. It's just been really fun to be

in conversation

with you and to share it with this incredible community of just, I always, I see this community, everyone is so sincerely earnest in their desire to really live their, their best life, you know, live to. Answer the promise of their natal chart, of their incarnation. And so thank you for being [00:53:00] such a beautiful, brilliant guide for us on this journey. It's, it's just awesome to know you.

Thank you,

Amanda. I've loved this conversation and I have

such

respect for you and this community, so it's been an honor to be here today.

Thank you,

Heather. Okay, everybody, thank you so much for being here. Thank you for being a part of this community, and I cannot wait to see you on the next episode. Take care.

 

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