Chiron, horses & astrology: a new path to self-discovery with Andrea Michelle
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- 00:00 – Andrea Michelle’s Aries Eclipse story
- 06:00 – Chiron’s astrological invitation for us
- 16:42 – Horses’ connection in activating our intuitive knowing
- 27:10 – Symbolism of Chiron as half man half horse
- 36:05 – Centaur as a Mentor retreat
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🌠 “Even horses who’ve experienced trauma can heal in a safe, loving environment — and in turn, they teach us how to heal too.” – Andrea Michelle
Transcript:
00:00:00:05 – 00:00:23:00
Unknown
Well hello everybody, and welcome to The Astrology, her podcast. I am so happy that you've decided to join us here today. We have a really fascinating topic, and this is something that we have never covered on the podcast before. And I've always wanted to I've had people ask me different questions about animals and astrology and how these things are related or not related.
00:00:23:02 – 00:00:56:03
Unknown
And so today we have a really fascinating conversation for you. And it is around the relationship between horses and humans and how this relationship has the potential to catalyze our Kyren story, our Kyren, potential actually, that word again, I'm gonna use it again. So how these things come together to actually, catalyze what is held in the Kyren placement in our chart.
00:00:56:03 – 00:01:22:18
Unknown
And this is just it's just so new and fresh. And I'm so excited to have Andre Michelle heckle here to talk about this. She has been working with horses and astrology and Kyron for almost a year now. And the story of how she got engaged with this is is fascinating in and of itself. So we're going to talk about that, and Andre and Michelle, I just want to welcome you back.
00:01:22:18 – 00:01:46:21
Unknown
For those of you who don't know her, she has been practicing and teaching astrology for over ten years. She has been an inner circle guide with us two different times. And then, like I said, she has been now integrating this idea of working with our potential through understanding, through through this relationship with horses. So any of you who are horse people out there, this is definitely, definitely your episode.
00:01:46:23 – 00:02:04:14
Unknown
But any of you who are our animal people, you know, you connect with Animal Kingdom and you want to understand more of that and how astrology might play a role in it. So I am so happy you're here. Welcome.
00:02:04:16 – 00:05:02:10
Unknown
Yes, yes. All right. Well, let's start with the story, because this is fascinating. And what I love about this story is it's such an illustration for all of us of how astrology is always speaking to us. And if we listen, all the instructions we need are right there. So tell us about this, this how this all happened.
00:05:13:12 – 00:05:33:22
Unknown
That is just fascinating. Again, for any of you out there going what like what is my next step or where am I going to go next with my life. And you don't know, it's just fascinating to me to hear stories like that, to know like there was a tiny little breadcrumb that happened 15 years ago, that in the minute that it happened, it meant nothing to you.
00:05:33:22 – 00:05:59:05
Unknown
And it was just like, but but for some reason, you remembered it, right? You were like, think of all the things that happened throughout our lives that we don't remember. But you remember that for some reason. And then to have it cycle back 15 years later and to have this and then to have the placement of your North Node in Kieran land in a new way as you are having these experiences, it's just it's fascinating.
00:05:59:05 – 00:08:16:24
Unknown
Okay, so let's back up a little bit and talk about Kieran in general, because not everybody maybe people don't understand what Kyron is and also why Kieran is connected to horses. And you know what Kieran can indicate for us in our charts.
00:09:14:14 – 00:09:56:16
Unknown
People often say that the Kieran wound is not healing like it's something that we essentially will carry our whole life. Do you agree with that?
00:10:28:15 – 00:11:16:05
Unknown
In your story of the eclipse last spring and how you, you just heard the pay attention, it that to me is you also embracing more of an instinctual knowing that doesn't necessarily make sense and you don't really know what it means yet. But you know to listen and you know, to pay attention to that. So and then in terms of, of, of not finding fault in the grit, as you say or not blaming it or trying to get rid of it, is it is working with our Kieran kind of like learning to embrace living at our growing edge, like learning to be be like, okay, I'm I'm uncomfortable here, but that means I'm in, I'm
00:11:16:05 – 00:11:27:02
Unknown
at my edge. And that is definitely not something to be avoided.
00:12:41:20 – 00:13:31:00
Unknown
They're also fine tuned there. They're also paying attention and very tuned into the environment around them. Right. That the weather cues the, the wind, the rain, the sun you know all those different kinds of cues as well. Okay. So let's go to this idea that through a human relationship with a horse we can catalyze the potential in our Kyron story and in Andre Michaux, would you would you tell people to like, take a minute to just look at where their Kyron is right now to understand maybe the sign and the house placement, maybe the degrees and to bring that into how we're having this conversation.
00:13:31:00 – 00:13:50:21
Unknown
Like, does it matter where your personal Kyron is for this conversation, or is it more just in general?
00:13:50:23 – 00:14:27:09
Unknown
Yeah.
00:16:41:02 – 00:19:03:04
Unknown
Okay. So tell us more I mean what, what are you finding. And are you, is this through or is this through. I know it's through your experience. And you said that you're literally in a position where you're hearing them. So are the horses speaking to you about these things or you know, how are you doing this mission?
00:20:08:14 – 00:21:49:01
Unknown
Give us an example. Like I'm having a you know, because I haven't had this experience and I don't I'm sure there's some people who have in, in that are listening but many who haven't. So give us an example of a way that a horse has mirrored for you some of these things.
00:21:57:13 – 00:22:32:12
Unknown
Yeah.
00:22:32:14 – 00:23:25:09
Unknown
Me?
00:23:41:09 – 00:24:23:22
Unknown
Where is your Kyron. Like. And if you had to say what you feel your quote unquote Kyron wound is what would you say. It is. And how have the horses helped you work with that to unleash more of your own potential.
00:27:10:00 – 00:27:37:15
Unknown
Let's talk a little bit more about the symbolism of Chiron being half man half horse. And to me what you, what you continue to bring in is this idea of the instinctual nature that we have inherent in us, and that the animals is specifically the horse in this situation is helping us marry these two aspects of ourselves.
00:27:37:17 – 00:28:11:10
Unknown
Are there are there other examples of, first of all, horses in astrology or this idea of the integration point between human and animal throughout astrology?
00:28:38:22 – 00:29:29:03
Unknown
Yeah.
00:30:26:13 – 00:31:02:01
Unknown
So for people that are wanting to play with this concept, these ideas I mean I know for myself they're actually the, the are my neighbors board horses. So literally in the pasture at any time there's horses roaming around which is amazing. But I haven't tried to connect with them in this specific way. And you mentioned before that it's that there are certain horses who have basically are are they so how do we identify them?
00:31:02:01 – 00:34:50:19
Unknown
Are they like service dogs? Like there's a certain type of horse that's normally good at this or like how do they even who is a horse that's volunteering for this kind of a role versus who's not. And yeah, go ahead. Go ahead.
00:34:50:21 – 00:35:12:08
Unknown
I mean even that is mirroring for us some of the things you just said that when even the horses who've had trauma, if they are in a loving environment in which they feel safe, their inherent intelligence will help them heal from that, which then puts them in a position where they desire to be of service. I mean, that's the same with us, too.
00:35:12:10 – 00:35:39:21
Unknown
I mean, I truly believe are like the our souls inherently are here to serve each other, to serve not only humanity, but all sentient beings and all of all of life. And so but, but, but so many things happen where we either get diverted from that or forget that, or it gets buried or whatever, but they're showing us that it's not always going to be a mental understanding of things.
00:35:39:21 – 00:36:07:19
Unknown
In order to do this healing that sometimes it can more, even, more efficiently, like you said, happen more spontaneously, happen more organically happen just by being in a loving and safe environment. And this idea, the horse is holding the Schumann resonance and running it through their bodies, like through their hooves. It's it's just amazing. Wow. So, so for people.
00:36:07:19 – 00:38:14:16
Unknown
And I know that you're doing this work now, are you are you because you're going to be hosting retreats, are you hosting retreats with the woman who you went to her reach? Yeah. Tell us about her and how all this has come to take.
00:38:36:03 – 00:39:03:20
Unknown
Wow.
00:39:03:20 – 00:39:29:10
Unknown
because you're bringing the astrology into this I think which is really fascinating with your all of your years of, of study and practice and teaching of astrology to be marrying these things. And Andrea Michelle, this is I keep seeing this within the realm of astrology, that it's the astrologers that feel like they're really thriving, especially at this particular moment in time.
00:39:29:12 – 00:40:06:13
Unknown
It is that they are integrating other things in their experience, other modalities, other perspectives, other that don't seem related to astrology at the surface always, but that they're bringing this unique blend of things together. Those are the ones that I'm talking to lately that feel the most kind of like on fire. Like it's almost like they're getting this entire, like, new wind in their sales and they're just very, very passionate about where they're going with their practices and with their teaching and all of it.
00:40:06:13 – 00:40:15:20
Unknown
So tell us how this is all coming together for you.
00:40:15:22 – 00:40:23:03
Unknown
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00:40:23:05 – 00:41:36:15
Unknown
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00:41:36:17 – 00:43:21:14
Unknown
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00:43:21:16 – 00:43:36:04
Unknown
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00:43:36:04 – 00:43:51:21
Unknown
The Santa Fe is already that. The whole area around there is just so magical. I mean, New Mexico in general, it's just there's a reason why they call it the Land of Enchantment, right? It's just so beautiful and magical. And then to bring in this horse angle, it's just it's beautiful.
00:43:51:21 – 00:44:20:07
Unknown
I love that you're doing this. And any of you who are interested, what are the dates? March.
00:44:20:09 – 00:45:00:01
Unknown
Amazing. Okay. Any of you interested in checking it out. We're just going to pop up an easy link for you to remember. You go to Astrology hub.com/horses that I'll direct you to Andrea michelle's page. If you want to learn more about this retreat and learn more about the work in general, you can go there. And Andrea, Michelle, you're offering our community a special discount right?
00:45:00:03 – 00:45:27:06
Unknown
Yes. Oh my gosh, I love it. Fascinating. I'm proud of you for for embracing this very unknown, unique and cutting edge angle that you're, you know, that you're, bringing forth. So thank you for that. And putting that natural inclination you have towards service to something that's also bringing you so much joy. It's just it's beautiful to see.
00:45:27:08 – 00:45:48:00
Unknown
And I think really the call for all of us in this time is to really find that thing that's like, gosh, this is this is mind bring, this is something I can uniquely bring forward to help in the transition that we are all in as humanity. So bringing your gifts in that way, I love it. Thank you.
00:45:48:02 – 00:46:08:01
Unknown
And any of you that feel called again it's astrology have.com/horses. If this has resonated with you, if you're fascinated, if you're curious, if you want to go deeper, if you want to have an experience of it, which I think is really the the key here is actually to have that immersive experience. Definitely go check it out and thank you for being here, Andre.
00:46:08:01 – 00:46:26:20
Unknown
Michelle, thank you again for sharing all this with us. Thank you to all of you out there for being a part of our community. Thank you for making astrology a part of your life. Maybe now you'll integrate horses into that love of astrology, which would be really amazing and we'd love to hear all about it. So, Andre, Michelle, after you have this, let's have you back.
00:46:26:23 – 00:46:37:21
Unknown
We can talk about some of the experiences that people have had, which would be really fun. Yes. All right everybody take care and we'll see you on the next episode.